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To everyone on this site that I was an utter nuisanice to.....I'm sorry. Words cannot describe how stupid I feel looking at everything I used to say. Thank you for not outright banning me for being such an intolerable butt wipe to others not only for their own opinions but also for stupid nonsense (Sonic X being a linked continuity crap like that).
 
To everyone on this site that I was an utter nuisanice to.....I'm sorry. Words cannot describe how stupid I feel looking at everything I used to say. Thank you for not outright banning me for being such an intolerable butt wipe to others not only for their own opinions but also for stupid nonsense (Sonic X being a linked continuity crap like that).
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I have a question. While I know I'm blocked at the moment and can't do any editing I think that people can still see what I say here right? Well if I may ask how come all the Sonic X comics character pages were marked for deletion? Not that I'm upset or anything but I was told by an admin (I think it was SeriousSam) that it would be a great help for me to create those pages as the Sonic X comics are considered an alternate continuity from the Sonic X universe much like the several different Sonic the Hedgehog characters are in the multi universe comics? So wouldn't this just be a case of that? Because there are some distinct differences between certain characters in the comic Sonic X and the Anime Sonic X (El Gran Gordo and the crush on Ella for Eggman) (and being a bit more mature from the start in the comic for Chris.)
   
 
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Hi, welcome to Sonic News Network! Thanks for your edit to the Bokkun page. Before editing, you might like to check out our Community Portal, and please read our rules. In particular, we have strict guidelines over the inclusion of fan material (characters, stories, etc.). If you want to edit fan material, then we suggest you have a look at the Sonic Fanon Wiki instead, which is a more appropriate location. Other than that, we hope that you will feel welcome here, and enjoy your stay! If you have any questions, leave a message on my talk page, and I will get back to you as soon as I possibly can! -- Sonictoast (Talk) 00:05, July 31, 2010

Attention, new user. Your contributions to the Bokkun article are nothing more than speculation. He has not been confirmed to be a animal or a chao. If he has been, could you perhaps link me to the source? Thank you. --File:AdmiralLevi.Signiture.pngFile:AdmiralLevi. Salute.gif 00:15, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

I never said I hate Chris Thorndyke, I have no idea why you think I do. Myself 123 15:46, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, so you hate me for being logical, now do you? AdmiralLevi.Signiture BAdmiralLevi. Salute B 03:38, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Easy, Sonic X describes then as parellel universes, meaning that there is a G.U.N in Sonic's world, and a G.U.N in Chris's world.

I never said that I hate you, I said that you can annoy me. and how are you being logical? and what the heck are you doing reading my talk page!? What am I suddenly a big intrest to you!? I thought moderators only watched the articles round the clock not the user pages! The Mods have no reason to snoop around the user page when a change to it is made by the user who created it.

We have all the reason in the world. AdmiralLevi.Signiture BAdmiralLevi. Salute B 04:00, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

No you don't because it doesn't concern the Sonic series itself! It is based on my on opinions and thoughts and I don't want some SonicxSally fanbrat reading it!

'Fanbrat'? FANBRAT?! It's called being INTELLEGENT! Ask anyone here about what I'm saying and they'll agree with me! AdmiralLevi.Signiture BAdmiralLevi. Salute B 04:06, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Only other Fanbrats.

Shelly the Hedgehog Amy to ShellyI'm not a monkey!

Stop hand nuvola svg This is a warning to a user who vandalised an article. Our fellow users ask that you please do not repeat any edits like the one that a user has now undone. If you vandalise 4 times, or harass another user, you will be banned from editing. You may want to read our rules. Thank you. Stop hand nuvola svg


Firstly, you may NOT be aggressive/rude to other users here. Secondly, Sonally is canon within the Archie comic universe. -- Shelly the Hedgehog Amy to ShellyI'm not a monkey! 04:10, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

^See? AdmiralLevi.Signiture BAdmiralLevi. Salute B 04:10, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Um Admiral. Why did you delete that? That was a simple question that I feel I have the right to ask. and if this is my personal talk page wouldn't that mean anything that I put shouldn't be deleted by someone else?

No. It doesn't. U have no right to remove another user's message without their perrmission.Sonic & Scrab Master Kaze no Kizu! 04:24, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

What? Then wouldn't that mean that he can't remove one of messages without my permission? because he did a few mins ago.

I didn't see it. Also, both of you, STOP! Stop this argument, now!Sonic & Scrab Master Kaze no Kizu! 04:29, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Okay I'll stop. But may I at least know what article I'm supposed to have vandalised? I is it alright if you please remove everything off my talk page except for where I'm talking about my favorite characters.

To Admiral Leviathan. I'm sorry that we can't agree, but I am willing to drop this whole matter in that I like SonicxAmy better and you like SonicxSally better. Can we please let bygons be bygons and forget any of this ever happened?

I don't know how this all started. And this talk page will stay a it is.Sonic & Scrab Master Kaze no Kizu! 04:42, August 28, 2010 (UTC) Is there any way that I can make up for what I did and you may someday remove the vandalising user thing, or am I just stuck with that forever?

Oops. he he. I didn't realise that my fav chacters are on my profile page not my talk page. silly me. :D

Hi

Never expected you to return. I remember the big debate we all had on Sonally and Sonamy. It's over now, so I don't want to go on about it. Anyways, welcome back. Want to be friends? Sacorguy79: I'll have to give myself a Promotion image 11:54, November 12, 2010 (UTC)Sacorguy79


Sure! Only problem is that I don't know how to add friends on wikis.

Actually, there sin't such a thing as "adding". If a person accepts a friend request, you're friends. That's all there is to it! Sacorguy79: I'll have to give myself a Promotion image 11:48, November 14, 2010 (UTC)Sacorguy79

I need some help! I've noticed that for the past few weeks or so someone deleted what Eggman's role in Sonic 06 was! Even if someone doesn't like the game it doesn't give them the right to delete the details of it.

I've tried asking some moderators but I get the feeling that they are still holding a grudge from the SonicxAmy vs. SonicxSally debate I had with them. Do you think you could help get them to put this information back on the article? Because this is definitly vandalism!

hi

Hello. I'm SonAmy too. Friends? sure, but who is this?

Oh sorry, I forgot to put in my sig above^ Okay thanks!:D Knuckleschaotix 15:08, February 1, 2011 (UTC) Sounds great!Knuckleschaotix 02:46, February 2, 2011 (UTC)


If you know for a fact that this is true, then prove it. Any proof whatsoever will instantly cause your credibility to go up. Instead, you start an edit war, simply insisting that you're right. Based on what's transpired on your own talk page, though, I'd say we're better off without you and your attitude.

-SalaComMander 21:04, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

First off I would like to apologize for my recent behavior here on Sonic News Network, I've been going through alot of things in my life and this whole who saved Sally from dying thing just made me explode. See the thing is, my dad passed away not to long ago from lung cancer, and I've had to step up my game around the house, at school and in public. My mom is having to learn how to support me her and our dogs and she has to learn how to work at her new job. School has been really rough for me because some new kids have been very nasty about what has been going on, plus one of my Teachers likes to poke fun at my life. Again I am really sorry for the trouble I have caused and I hope that I can have a fresh start on this. sincerly pkstarstorm1up.

Sorry. Can't. First, I don't know myself. Second, I'm kn my monthly vacation.Sonic & Scrab Master Just call me Deepthroat 20:52, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Well do you think Shelly would know how to? She is the head moderator right? If so the next time you contact her could you ask her for me?

Myself 123

Can you please stop adding false information to the Sonic X page. Myself 123 22:36, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

User:Pkstarstorm1up I'm not adding false information, I'm just adding what has already been proven.

Has it? Myself 123 22:41, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, in the Japanese and French versions of Sonic X He tells Amy that he loves her, plus he confesses his feelings for Amy in Sonic Chronicles the Dark Brotherhood. It's also hinted that Sonic will go on a date with Amy in The Xbox 360/Ps3 versions of Sonic Unleashed and he is on a date with her in Sonic and the Black Knight. I think it's safe to say that it's pretty obvious that Sonic the Hedgehog loves Amy Rose in the Games/Sonic X continuity.

The Sonic Chronicles and and Unleashed thing is completely optional and the player's choice. We don't know why Sonic is on a date in SatBK, she could've twisted his arm, it clearly wasn't important to him because he forgot (I'm not sure why you're mentioning this though, as it has nothing to do with Sonic X). Finally, I've heard that Sonic says something else in Japanese dub, and if it was true, why did Amy try and make Sonic fall in love with her in a later episode? Myself 123 22:53, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Optional yes, but it's clearly the choice that Sonic Team considers canon. They have stated SonAmy is canon in an interview in a magazine before, don't ask for a link because I don't know how to provide links so please look it up on your own. Look up Segas Master Tweets theater on youtube and you will see them confirm SonAmy being canon. The choices to say no in Chronicles is only there for fans who hate SonAmy and don't want a couple forced down there throats (A lesson Archie sure could learn when it comes to SonSally) He loves her but doesn't like being all touchy feely like she does and she wants him to be more touchy feely. He didn't forget he was summened into King Arthurs storbook by Merlina remember? That second Chili Dog was for Amy on thier date.

Was that second chilli dog for the date? How do you know that the "no" choices were simply made for SonAmy haters? How do you know that they're not the right choices and that the "yes" choices were simply made for SonAmy fans? The Master Tweet Theatre doesn't say that Sonic loves Amy, it says that we will find out if he dose later this year, maybe he dose love her, maybe he doesn't, some may claim that they know but they don't, not really. Anyway, all this is moot, I was talking about Sonic X, not the games. Myself 123 23:47, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Because Sonic Team wouldn't toy around with thier most beloved couple like that. They wouldn't hint at it like that and wink at the viewers if it wasn't canon. Ah but Sonic X was made by Sonic Team and Sonic Project therefore it is the same continuity as the games. Anything that happens differently in Sonic X then it did in the games is what Sonic Team decided they wanted to be the canon version.

What couple? There is no couple. Maybe there might be (MIGHT be) one in the not-to-distant future, but their isn't one now, all you're basing this on are player choices and one date that didn't even happen. All right then, so because Sonic X is produced by Sonic Team it's canon to the games? O.k o.k. Did you know that Knuckles can fly freely? Or that Sonic's world is spilt into two parts, the lower, main land being a destroyed city where Robotnik built his Robotropolis? And the second part is made up of several landmasses floating in the sky and is ruled the president who has half cat daughter called Sarah? It's all true. Myself 123 00:06, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Look you have your views and I have mine.

Opinions are fine, I personally don't believe in SonAmy, but I didn't write what I wrote or do what I did because of that opinion, there's not enough proof that SonAmy exists, so it shouldn't be treated like it dose. As for the whole Sonic X canon thing, I was trying to make a point that I thought you would pursue but you didn't. the fact that Sonic X is produced by Sonic Team doesn't prove it's canon to the games as Sonic Team also produced Sonic the Hedgehog: The Movie, if Sonic X is canon because it was produced by Sonic Team then surely so is this is too, but if you've ever seen the movie, you'll know it's vastly different from the games and Sonic X. Myself 123 00:32, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

The movie wasn't made by Sonic Team, it was only made by Sonic Project. Sonic Team created Sonic X and Chris, Cosmo, Danny, and several other characters therefore any romance that happens in Sonic X means that it's what they like and want. Plus Shadow gets a power up by removing his Inhibtor Rings which he first does in Sonic X suggesting a linked canon. Cosmo is still regenerating into her normal form in Sonic Chronicles heavily implying a linked canon. Well I must say at least we are able to keep this converation respectful of the other person, something many other moderators here have a hard time with.

The Sonic movie was produced by Sonic Team as well as Yuji Naka, look here at 5:15. There's no proof that that's Cosmo in that pot, it's most likley just a reference (along with Swatbots and Roboticization). Myself 123 02:54, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Robotization? There isn't any Robotization in Sonic Chronicles. and yes since Cosmo is actually a living being she counts more as proof then the Swat bots do. Yes, but they didn't create any of the characters in that one so it is ruled out.

Yes there is Robotization in it. There's still no proof that that's Cosmo in the pot, it's never mentioned or dwelled upon. More to the point, if it is Cosmo in that pot, and Sonic X and the games are one in the same, then how come Sonic and co are all back on earth? Myself 123 23:24, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

I haven't seen a single line of text that talks about Roboticization, and they aren't back on Earth, the word Earth was never used in the game or in any other game.

Plus some more proof is that in Shadow the Hedgehog, Shadow was told that he was created to save the humans but not any Mobians, since thier are no Mobians on Earth that heavily implies a linked continuity between the Games and Sonic X.

I just checked and what they meant by Roboticization there was just that Eggman was trapping animals into living batteries as robots again, not actually changing thier bodies into metal.

Check the link, and read all of it. By your logic they must be on earth because the world is populated with humans and most importantly, G.U.N. Mobius doesn't exist therefore mobians do not exist, anthropomorphic animals such as Sonic have never been refereed to by any name. Myself 123 14:24, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Let's just agree to disagree.

I guess I and the rest of this Wiki have failed you then. Myself 123 18:59, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Fail me? How could you fail me when I'm the one who is right?

No because there are more humans then just Eggman on Sonic's planet in Sonic X, you just don't see them because they hardly spend any time on it. Mobians are just the default name of thier species just as Mobius is the default name for thier planet. Sonic X was all Sonic Teams ideas so it's clear that any changes they made to the series makes it canon within the games. The reason Shadow is said to have been created to save the humans is because he was created on Chris's planet aka Earth then after the events of Shadow the Hedhehog he wound up on Mobius and lives there along with the rest of the cast. The Mobius of the Games/Sonic X continuity is a different planet with the same name as the Mobius in the comics.

Do you have any proof that humans exist in Sonic's world? I know humans exist on other planets in Sonic's universe, but that doesn't mean they exist on Sonic's planet. Again, the planet Mobius didn't really exist in the games, according to Japanese continuity, Sonic has always lived on Earth. As I mentioned before, the Sonic the Hedgehog Movie was also produced by Sonic Team, and that was vastly different from the games. Even if there were humand on Sonic's planet, that still doesn't explain why G.U.N exist in Sonic's world. Myself 123 09:51, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Eggman knew what humans were so that must mean that he's been in contact with other humans before. The manuals actually only said Sonic's World, not Earth itself so since the games and Sonic X are a linked continuity just as SatAM and Archie comics are a linked continuity it isn't Earth that he lives on, therefore I use Mobius as the default name since the actual name of the planet has never been stated. Yes but Eggman is to different in that to be the same Eggman while in Sonic X every characters personalities are exactly the same as in the games. Also in Sonic Adventure DX they added Cream into the game to signify that the Sonic X version is canon because Cream plays a role in that one. They also showed that Chris is canon in the games as well since they added him on a poster board in one of the games where he plays a major role in Sonic X in. All of this hints and clues are proof that The Games/Sonic X are the same Continuity just as SatAM/Archie comics are the same continuity.

Sonic dose live on Earth, his birthplace has even been stated to be Christmas Island, a real world location. Is Eggman too different in Sonic OVA? He wore the exact same clothes he did in the games, and he is portrayed as an arrogant, egotistical mastermind, that sounds like Robotnik to me. They didn't add Cream in SA: DX because she was in Sonic X, it was just a cameo to promote the new character, Posters of Chris and Sonic X were put in to promote Sonic X (besides, these images only appear in the extra, mission mode). Myself 123 17:47, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

P.S Sonic X Eggman knows about humans because he did live on Earth before being sent to Sonic's world at an unknown time, otherwise he wouldn't have known and respected his grandfather.

Yeah a real world location name, so? That doesn't mean it's Earth, it's just a location on a different planet that has the same name as a real world location. and no Eggman didn't know that he was born on Earth he was quite suprised when he found out that he was so he had to have been in infant when he was sent to Mobius, so he couldn't of known about his granfather that way, it is left up to speculation about how he knew his grandfather. and if he was the only Human on Sonic's world then he would have been very shocked when he was sent to Chris's planet (which he wasn't.) I know that there are a few inconsistances in my theory but there are more inconsistancys in your theory therefore my theory is more valid.

and yeah Eggman is very different in the Sonic OVA, he is infatuated with Princess Sara Freedom while in the Games and Sonic X he has never been shown to have a crush on anyone.

We don't when Eggman arrived on Chris' world, he could've been a teenager when it happened and didn't recognise it when he returned (Eggman's middle-aged and a lot can happen in 20-30 years, plus he may a lived in a different location). Have you ever noticed how confused and scared Sonic is when he first appears in Chris' world? He doesn't look confused just because he's in a new location, he seems to be puzzled by cars as if he's never seen one before and when some of humans shout out to him, Sonic says "So they can talk" suggesting he's not used to them. Later on in the same episode, he ponders if the he's been sent to a different time as the stars and the moon look different, suggesting the idea of a parallel world hadn't even crossed Sonic's mind. Just because OVA Eggman is attracted to Sarah and Sonic X Eggman has never shown any affection to any females doesn't mean they have completely different personalities, it just means that there's no-one who appeals to him. Myself 123 01:24, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Actually Sonic doesn't say that in the official translation, you must be watching some of those free translations. Sonic isn't freaked out because there are cars there, he's freaked out because he almost got hit by one. Plus he never says the stars are different in the Japanese dub which is the canonically correct version. Uh yes it does, he bows to Saras every whim, something he never did For Princess Elise who by the way is alot more beautiful the Sara is.

Beisides this all a mute point, Sonic X and all of it's characters and ideas were made by Sonic Team which makes it there ideal version of the Sonic canon therefore if Sonic love Amy in Sonic X then he loves Amy in the games as well. Even if it wasn't the same continuity (even though it is) since it is proven official in an anime they made then that would mean that it is official in the games as well since they have made them as well.

Sorry, I meant to say the stars and moon look similar, and I was watching the official dub, so he dose say that. Elise being prettier that Sarah is just a matter of opinion, besides one slight difference doesn't make him completely different. As I've said before, just because it was produced by Sonic Team doesn't mean it's their ideal canon, Sonic OVA was produced by Sonic Team too. And if Sonic did say he loves Amy, that still doesn't explain why she tried to make Sonic fall in love with her in a later episode. Myself 123 09:30, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

No he doesn't. The Dub is not considered the canon version of Sonic X. The Japanese version of Sonic X is the canon version. Yes it does, it shows it's not the same Eggman. and yes it does make it thier ideal canon because unlike Sonic OVA they created dozens of characters something they did not do for Sonic OVA. I've already told you why, he loves her but he doesn't like being all clingy which she wishes he was, that's why she wanted the potion so that way he would be all touchy feely like she wants.

One thing like that dose not make them completely different, it doesn't matter anyway because both OVA Eggman and Sonic X Eggman were created by Sonic Team, so it's what they wanted. As best to my knowledge, it's a love potion, not a "touchy feely" potion. Sonic X isn't canon to the games because it causes a large number of inconsistencies such the presence of G.U.N (in particular, the G.U.N Commander) in games that, according to your logic, happen after the events of the final series, the lack of Chris Thorndyke, who's supposed to be a close friend of Sonic's and the huge differences in the Sonic Battle "adaptation"? Myself 123 01:19, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

It's the same thing since he admitted he loves her and it's pretty obvious that he does. and yes Sonic X is canon withing the games because those aren't inconsistanceies, Sonic Team just decided to retcon the games versions and make the Sonic X version the canon version because they are better that way and since Chris is Sonic Best Friend.

Is it obvious? I don't recall seeing Sonic showing much affection to Amy after that one episode and he's shown even less in the games. The only thing we can do is wait and see. If it is a retcon, that still doesn't explain why G.U.N is in Sonic Chronicles, when G.U.N exist in "Chris' world" and SC is set on "Sonic's World". Myself 123 15:42, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Yes it is, he is incredibly flustered and attracted to her when she wears that ballroom gown in season 3, plus he gets extreamly upset when she is in danger and will do anything to keep her safe. That's not the same G.U.N, it's the G.U.N of Sonic's world.

Then how come the same person is running both of them? Myself 123 16:41, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

It's not the same person, he has different color disigns.

There's not much difference in colour. Myself 123 14:50, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah but there is a noticible difference therefore he is a different commander.

Is there? the only differences I can see is a lighter skin colour and a lack of heterochromia (but, to my knowledge, not many NPCs are shown with an eye colour). If a slight redesign like that means that he's a different character, dose that mean that the Sonic seen in the early games is a completely different character to the one seen in the later games? Myself 123 18:08, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

No because that is different, Sonic is a main character so that rule doesn't apply, that would be like saying that There are 6 different Sallys. Blond Hair Orange Fur, Black Hair Pink Fur, Brown Hair Pink Fur, Red Hair Brown Fur with no pupils or vest, Red Rair Brown Fur with pupils and a vest, and Long Red Hair Brown Fur with pupils and a vest.

No, the point stands, just because a character has a slight redesign doesn't mean it's a completely different character. Myself 123 18:44, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Whatever, I have more evidence to support my theory then you have to support yours so I'm just going to drop this.

No you don't, all you're going on is the fact that Sonic team produced Sonic X, cameos and stuff you've made up that isn't backed up by anything. But, if you still believe that Sonic X is canon to the games, then I give up, you can believe it if you want, but this is a Sonic wiki, and as a wiki we have give factual information to the people who come here, so I must ask you to keep you're theory out of mainspace. Myself 123 19:14, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

This is the last I'll discuss on this, you haven't given any factual information either so it really isn't fact that SonAmy and Sonic X aren't canon.

Hello

I hear you want Silver and Blaze back in the game. So are you saying that Sonic 06 was good? The gameplay was terrible. We should be able to play as Knuckles, Tails, Amy, and Shadow and Rouge, but that's about it! Gameplay is better than the story, would you like it if the gameplay and levels of a game were terrible but the story was good? Sounds like it. Sorry if I may have offended your opinion, but that's what I think.


Hey! Bullet! The Easter Bunny is Here! 21:24, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

No the gameplay of Sonic 06 was not terrible, it was almost exactly like the gameplay in Sonic Adventure was, it was the camera and the load times that drag the game down but otherwise it is the equvilant of Sonic Adventure 3.

It's no fun to play a game with good gameplay if it has a sorry excuse for a story because it will get boring then. Sonic Colors may have had very fun gameplay but the story is what stops me from playing it alot like I do with Sonic Adventure and Sonic 06. No matter how great the gameplay is the story is always supposed to be a bit better.

Sonic 06 had terrible gameplay and got a 3.5/10 and has the WORST average rating out of any Sonic game ever. Therefore it is the worst. Sonic Colors has the 5th average rating out of the console main games.

Hey! Bullet! The Easter Bunny is Here! 01:45, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Sonic 06 did not have a terrible gameplay! The gameplay is exactly like Adventure's gameplay is so your basically saying that Adventure had bad gameplay. Again that's only because the general reviewers are biased against Sonic and besides just because they don't like it doesn't make it bad. It is not the worst and there have been plenty others with worse ratings. Plus I'm allowed to have my own opinion so I don't appriciate you trying to decide what I can or can't like.

In my first comment I said "Sorry if I may have offended your opinion" because I knew something like this would happen. Again I apologize.

Hey! Bullet! The Easter Bunny is Here! 01:58, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Do not add that info the Tails' Workshop page again until it is resolved what should be there. If you try it will result in a block, for you have been warned many times. Thank You.

Hey! Bullet! The Easter Bunny is Here! 19:13, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

and um this is the first time I've been warned about this.

Pkstarstorm1up 19:20, April 14, 2011 (UTC)== umm ==

may i ask why you added that "any changes in the Adventure Arks are what is canon and is the same continuity as the one in the games" when it is not true, it could be considered vandalism

Ediskrad327 00:03, April 12, 2011 (UTC) I added it because it is true, people just don't want to believe that it's true because they don't like Chris.

Do not add random pages without actually knowing the name of the article and without providing good info. Thanks. This is the last time you have been warned okay?

Hey! Bullet! The Easter Bunny is Here! 23:30, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Wait what? Last time I've been warned? Um parden me but I haven't done anything wrong. I added an article about two characters that didn't have an article, what's wrong about that? T

Because the page is useless and the characters have no name, and there is near to non info about them. It is just like creating a page called "Character in the crowd" they have no name, and have no info. Would you create an article called "character in the crowd?" No. It is the same thing. Understood?

Hey! Bullet! The Easter Bunny is Here! 23:40, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Um okay but I don't think that warrents a threat of being banned.

I know but you have been warned many times for other things, keep it up and it will be a perma-ban.

Hey! Bullet! The Easter Bunny is Here! 23:44, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

What other things? It your referring to that issue I had with Admiral Leviathan that was over 9 months ago, that hardly counts as something against me in the here and know don't you think?

No. Time changes nothing. The admins set it up that way. I don't make the rules, I follow and enforce them.

Hey! Bullet! The Easter Bunny is Here! 23:49, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Okay well could you maybe please give me some tips on what I'm doing that is so bad? Because I don't think creating an article is vadalising.

Yes it is. Read my above comment about Character in the crowd thing. That is what you are doing right now creating an article just like that.


Hey! Bullet! The Easter Bunny is Here! 23:53, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Well I didn't know that that was bad so does that still count as vanalising since I thought that since they were his adoptive parents that they were a little signifigant. I wouldn't do something stupid like add a character in a croud unless it is an actual character who makes a cameo appearence.

Well that is what you are doing. It is called spamming.


Hey! Bullet! The Easter Bunny is Here! 23:59, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Out of curiousity, how is it spamming if I only created the article once and didn 't know that it was wrong?

Because the page itself is a spam, making you a spammer, making that spamming.


Hey! Bullet! The Easter Bunny is Here! 00:12, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

it doesn't matter whatpeople think of Chris, it is not true, there are many elements in the anime that directly contradict the game canon and cannot be the same continuity starting whith the whole sonic being from amother world plot element and having Chris , decoe, bocoe on the Ark in the SA2 adaptation

Ediskrad327 16:35, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Sonic Team created the anime and many of it's characters thus any changes in the anime are the canon version.

Plus The Archie comics have conflicting stories with SatAM and yet it's lumped together as the same continuity. If that can be done when the comics are made by Archie while the tv show was made ny DIC Entertainment, then it's more likely that the games that are made by Sonic Team and Sonic X which was made by Sonic Team are the same continuity.



I've only just seen the comment you left earlier, just because I can't disprove it, doesn't mean it's true. What if someone where to say that Big has the secret ability of flight that he never uses? It can't be confirmed or denied, just like your claim, so should it be placed here? Along with all manner of made-up nonsense and speculation? Myself 123 18:48, April 13, 2011 (UTC)


how does changing the anime make it canon in the games? i don't know what theory you have but leave it out of mainspace articles since you are lying and vandalizing, also being made by the same company doesn't prve anything, marve makes omics,movies,cartoons and they are different continuities. give me one link here sega or sonic team calim it is the same continuity and i will leave you lone. and please don't mss up my signature twisting my words

Ediskrad327 13:17, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

User:Pkstarstorm1up It's not vadlizing when it's true. and refer back to my previous comment because since Sonic News Network believes that The comics and SatAM (Which were made by two seperate companies) are the same continuity despite having conflicting stories in the two series, then it makes sense that the games and Sonic X (Which were both created by Sonic Team) are the same continuity as well despite having conflicting stories since they are both made by Sonic Team. But I don't blame you for thinking the way you do, most Sonic fans just aren't ready to accept the truth that Chris is a canon character in the games as well.

Please don't change the name of the Sonic X episodes to the names of the Japanese versions, we are the English Sonic Wiki, not the Japanese.


Hey! Bullet! The Easter Bunny is Here! 19:33, April 14, 2011 (UTC)


User:Pkstarstorm1up Oh alright sorry about that, I thought the Japanese titles would be more appropriate but alright then.

Yes. But you have been warned for vandalism alot recently. You can't go by with your ideas without consulting someone first! You've been told the same things over and over again!

Hey! Bullet! The Easter Bunny is Here! 19:37, April 14, 2011 (UTC)


User:Pkstarstorm1up Wait what!? What do you mean!? That's not vadalism! The Japanese version is the real version of Sonic X afterall so how is that vadalism!? I'm sorry I mean no disrespect but I'm not sure you know what vadalism is. Vadalism is when you change something to something incorrect on purpose but technically the Japanese title isn't incorrect so therefore it's not vadalism.


what the heck are you talking about? what truth! there is no evidence of Chris being in the game continuity and the fact that sonic returned to his world at the end of season 2 makes no sence since in the games he is always in the same world EARTH also if they are the same continuity when do sonic heroes,shadow the hedgehog,sonic 2006,sonic unleahsed,sonic colors,sonic chronicles happen?

if this is your so called "truth" gime a LINK WHERE SEGA OR SONIC TEAM SAYS SO Ediskrad327 19:48, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Sonic Heroes takes place sometime after the Adventure 2 ark, Shadow the Hedgehog takes place sometime after Sonic Heroes but before the end of season 2, Sonic Chronicles is the first game to take place back on Sonic's world with Sonic 06 and the rest of the new games coming after it. Also Earth has never been stated to be the world Sonic lives on, I've checked and the Japanese manuels have only said the words Sonic's Planet, not Earth and not Mobius therefore Earth hasn't been confirmed to be the planet he lives on. Alright then ask yourself this when did Dic Entertainment and Archie ever state that SatAM and the comics were the same continuity? It's the same principles and a double stadard and you can't have it both ways.


ithe problem here is that if it is in Sonic's world WHY THE HECK AREW THERE HUMANS AND G.U.N. there when did i mention archie or DIC at all, cut the babbleing and give a proof!

Becuase there are humans and Mobians on Sonic's planet but only humans on Chris's planet, plus there are two G.U.N's one for each planet. and if you had read my previous comments about if SatAM and Archie are the same continuity despite having conflicting stories then the Games and Sonic X are the same continuity despite having conflicting stories. Plus Sonic X was made by Sonic Team therefore making it more credible.

Ediskrad327 20:04, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Dude, I told you would get blocked, try editing a page other than your talkpage.


Hey! Bullet! The Easter Bunny is Here! 20:20, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Okay one it's not false information, and two that was resolved two days ago! Why the heck am I being blocked for something that has already been resolved!?

for adding false information and claiming it real, you know how wikis work no evidence, not real!

Ediskrad327 20:34, April 14, 2011 (UTC)


That doesn't excuse the fact that the reason I'm being blocked is from something that has already been resolved. Plus you don't have any evidence that what I'm saying isn't true so your basically your adding things that don't have any evidence. Plus you can't block someone for claiming something is real on thier talk page, espcially when it is true.


the evidence is how OBVIOUSLY THE GAME AND THE ANIME CONTRADICT THEIRSELVES! you have on the ohterhand just this illusion so stop claiming this truth or give some evidence

Ediskrad327 20:41, April 14, 2011 (UTC)


Then give me some evidence that SatAM and the comics are the same continuity because thier stories contridict as well! Because there is plently of information missing about Robotnik's role in the Doomsday project and SatAM on his page and only stuff on his Archie version! If this wikia can get away with the comics and SatAM being the same continuity then this Wikia should also be able to get away with the games and Sonic X being the same continuity!

I rest my case.

This disscusion is now permanatly closed.

You cannot close discussions.

I just did.


Hey! Bullet! The Easter Bunny is Here! 21:03, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Stop evading I couldn't care less about SatAM or Archie, if you want to make big changes discuss them in the Talk page before adding invented stuff so as you said this is closed.


Ediskrad327 21:05, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

SatAM and Archie are very, very similar, much more similar than the games and Sonic X, but that's besides the point, SatAM info is separated from Archie info on the pages, therefore they are not treated as the same continuity and neither should be Sonic X and the games. Although your theory is very speculative and holes in it are filled with made-up nonsense, It cannot be truly denied, but that doesn't mean it has a place here, keep it out of mainspace please, or in future your block more be much longer. Myself 123 14:03, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Very well.

Check out this blog post that will be used to celebrate the 20th Anniversary of Sonic called HAPPY 20th ANNIVERSARY SONIC. You can leave comments about it.Sonic100JAM 01:57, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

All commercials and trailers are on the blog HAPPY 20th ANNIVERSARY SONIC. Sonic100jam 10:45, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

SONIC BOOM 2011 IS NOW AVAILABLE ON THE BLOG HAPPY 20th ANNIVERSARY SONIC.Sonic100jam 05:56, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

And why are you removing the part about Yuji Naka talking about the marriage thing? --MrSmartyMax 16:42, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Because the so called link to the page where he said that is broken and it says Citation needed meaning that there is no factual proof that he actually said that. Therefore it has no right or need to be there.

It's Cool, I'll see how you act, I'll keep an eye out on you ;), anyways, also make sure you've read The SNN's rules. --Bullet Francisco (talk) Contributions Editcount

Look, I'm sorry. I'm just "learning," if you will. I didn't know. I'll do better next time. --MrSmartyMax 20:06, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I advise you to stop what you are doing immediately. The category Robotnik/Kintobor family is for All members of Doctor Robotnik/Doctor Eggman's family, this includes their family relations in comics, video games, and anime. If you continue your actions, I will inform an admin.   ★EYCEST★R★    ★Contact★ 

Sacorguy79

I'm not quite sure, better consult with Genesjs about that. He's still currently active. I'll have to give myself a Promotion image 00:08, July 29, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

Could you please consult with him about that? I get the feeling that many of the admins don't like me. User:Pkstarstorm1up

How are you so sure they're called "Ladies in Waiting"? --MrSmartyMax 18:34, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Because when you talk to them in the Castle town thier description box says Lady in Waiting for both of them.

You're getting to be quite annoying here. --MrSmartyMax 20:11, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

How? Because I know what the articles are called? If I may you are rather annoying as well. User:Pkstarstorm1up

Mobius has not been called by name in any of the games, so how would you know? --MrSmartyMax 20:23, July 29, 2011 (UTC)


This has nothing to do with Mobius. They are still called Mobians despite not living on Mobius. That is thier species.

I HATE YOU! I'VE ALWAYS HATED YOU! GET A FREAKING LIFE! Look what you've made Genesjs do. MrSmartyMax 20:44, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not messing anything up, you're the one who is messing everything! You're a disgrace to all wiki users and must! be! BLOOOOOOOCKED!

I guess this wiki has just found out how mature you really are. Your not an admin so you can't block me. Plus I've never hated you. I'm just extremely annoyed by you. You constantly change pages despite not knowing a single thing about the subject and when people correct you on them you don't stop. Your are the reason Genesjs locked it. At least I'm helping to improve this wiki unlike you.

User:Pkstarstorm1up

Edit warring

I've locked the pages that you and MrSmartyMax have been having your edit wars on. Now what I want you to do is settle the issues that you're both haing with each othr when it comes to the articles in question either on your Talk pages, or on one of the article Talk pages. And I want you both to speak to one another in a civil manner, and do not resort to using insults or profanity, or else there will be trouble. Am I clear? Lloyd the Cat"I hog that hedgehate!" 20:47, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Yes sir, but I would like you to know that I've never insulted him. In fact I've encouraged him to do his best a few times. But he's insulted me at least three times today. Just look at our edit log enough and you will find them.

User:Pkstarstorm1up

Don't think I know nothing about the whole Sonic thing, because I know most everything about Sonic. I may know even more than you. MrSmartyMax 20:54, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Oh really? Is that why just the other day you told me that you were still JUST LEARNING about Sonic the Hedgehog? User:Pkstarstorm1up

Wake up and smell the chili dogs, buster. I got a lot on my mind. And I've found out a lot more about the Sonic franchise than you think I know. MrSmartyMax 21:06, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

You think your the only one with alot on his mind? I'm still getting used to being away from my mom now that I'm in college, I have OCD, ADHD, Aspergers, Tourettes, Seperation anxiety, and my dad passed away from lung cancer not to long ago. YOU DON'T SEE ME TAKING IT OUT ON THIS WIKI DO YOU!? User:Pkstarstorm1up

Plus by looking at your talk page it seems that you've been warned and banned many more times then I have so who's the vandal? User:Pkstarstorm1up

Pk, focus on the current issue, not past ones. Lloyd the Cat"I hog that hedgehate!" 21:12, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

I've already given you instructions on how to take care of this problem, and what I would do depending on what happens. So how is talking to me going to get the problem taken care of any faster? Lloyd the Cat"I hog that hedgehate!" 22:21, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

I just thought that since your an admin you'd have a better chance of reasoning with him then I would. User:Pkstarstorm1up

Can't you just face the facts that the term "Mobian" or "Mobius" Isn't even part of the games' continuity or X? Remember? We had the discussions with Genesjs? What about the other characters? MrSmartyMax 21:56, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

You have not listed the other characters as Mobians, have you? <font color="blue" face="Arial 21:57, July 30, 2011 (UTC) </font>

<font color="blue" face="Arial I was going to, but you kept on deleting Sonic's Mobian status before I could. User:pkstarstorm1up </font>

<font color="blue" face="Arial Okay, then. But where did the games say anything about Mobians? MrSmartyMax 22:32, July 30, 2011 (UTC) </font>

<font color="blue" face="Arial They haven't, but under Sonic's game categories it lists him as a Mobian. It has for a long while now so I was just trying to put the information into the article. </font>

<font color="blue" face="Arial User:Pkstarstorm1up </font>

<font color="blue" face="Arial A BLAST OF THE PAST event is now available on the blog HAPPY 20th ANNIVERSARY SONIC. </font>

<font color="blue" face="Arial NOTE: THE CONTENTS OF THE PAGE WILL CHANGE FOR DIFFERENT SONIC GAMES. Sonic100jam 20:50, July 31, 2011 (UTC) </font>

<font color="blue" face="Arial It's imperative that you read this before you continue editing here. Myself 123 19:25, September 21, 2011 (UTC) </font> <font color="blue" face="Arial

It's not right though. Why should this game get so much hate when it is really deep down another Sonic Adventure game? There are many other games out there with many more problems then this game has but the biased reviewers are always hating on Sonic despite him being just as awesome as Mario is. I really hope that someday Sonic Team comes right out and says that many of thier fans and the reviewers are idiots. </font>

<font color="blue" face="Arial User:pkstarstorm1up </font>

<font color="blue" face="Arial I guess so, but it's not our problem. All we can do is be factual and let people make their own minds. Myself 123 19:40, September 21, 2011 (UTC) </font> <font color="blue" face="Arial

But don't you think that we fans should do something to stop this hate? I mean what if all of this someday makes Sonic Team stop making Sonic games? Aren't you worried that that would happen? </font>

<font color="blue" face="Arial User:Pkstarstorm1up </font> <font color="blue" face="Arial

No the Majority of the world liked it. Only the bad parts of the fanbase spoke out as they always do. The game is great and there is nothing anyone can do to change that. </font>

No dude, you're WAY off. The majority of the world hated that game, and you clearly aren't smart enough to know that. Learn facts. --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher. SportySmallRightAnimation(Talk)(Recent finds and updates.) 19:49, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

No your way off because your only listening to the biased 2D only loving Sonic fanboy reviewers. The game is a good game that would have been great if it wasn't for Microsoft and Yuji Naka.

LOL You truly don't know anything about Sonic. You have no clue what you're saying. I've known Sonic for as long as I've lived, and I know a lot more than you do clearly, because you are talking nonsense. --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher. SportySmallRightAnimation(Talk)(Recent finds and updates.) 19:52, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

No you don't because you don't know how to respect others opinions. Your probably only a fan of the 2D games.

Really? Than how come some of my favorite games are Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2? And I respect your opinion. You aren't respecting mine. And you are gitting rid of something on the Sonic '06 article because of YOUR opinion. And official game critics say the game is a bad game. Get over it. --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher. SportySmallRightAnimation(Talk)(Recent finds and updates.) 19:59, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Just because I like the game DOESN'T mean that I can't provide factual information. There is no link to where they state it as the worst game of the year. If there isn't a link then how do we know that it is true? And those so called official reviewers always lie and make things up about the Sonic games. Just watch IGN's failure of a review of Sonic Unleashed (360), and GameTrailers fail of a review of Sonic Colors.

What's with all the ruckus going on here?CariconCommander 20:04, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Pk, they actually don't. They speak the truth, and you are one of the fans of the Modern age that enjoys the games, while they are grownups that played the good games from the 90s and early 2000s. You don't want to believe it, so you say it's a lie. Now, if you said G4/X-Play gave it a fail review, I would agree. They're too harsh. But you didn't name them. You named two of the best reviewers out there. And CC, he won't shut up, that's as simple as I can put it. --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher. SportySmallRightAnimation(Talk)(Recent finds and updates.) 20:06, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

I'm just removing information from Sonic 06's article that isn't backed up by a link in the descrpition but this guy doesn't agree with that. User:pkstarstorm1up

I did mention xplay and uh IGN and GameTrailers are some the worst reviewrs out there! Again you grew up with the older games so you think they are good but that doesn't make it true. The newer games have just as much greatness and fun in them as the older games.

I've locked the page for 1 day. The screw attack link on Wikipedia was wrong, so I've just left the page as it is. The other information in that header is an accurate enough outlook of how the game was received. Myself 123 20:13, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Look here. I can't open the site for some reason, but if you're able to, tell me if Sonic '06 is on that list. If not, then you can get rid of the info and it can stay that way. I looked at 2006 awards, and it wasn't on there, so I looked 2007, but it won't open it, so if you can open it (and please be honest, if it's on there, please don't say it's not), and it's not in there, then I believe you and we can keep it where the IGN info isn't there.

P.S. IGN reviews it some of the best. And I actually grew up with the 3D games, but I'll always love the early ones the most. --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher. SportySmallRightAnimation(Talk)(Recent finds and updates.) 20:16, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry but it won't open for me either.

If they are so great then why did Hilary Goldstein make up fake problems about the 360 version of Sonic Unleashed? True they have gotten better but at that point in time they were biased.

User:pkstarstorm1up

Hi there want 2 be friends?

Talk 2 me on my talk page!

Bye


Sonicsmansion97 16:40, October 11, 2011 (UTC)Sonicsmansion97

Edits

Can you please stop adding the "(Best Friend)" thing to pages? By definition, you can only have One best friend. Hence the name best. If you keep this up, then I will be forced to block you. --Bullet Francisco (talk) Contributions Editcount 20:13, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

No that's not true! I know several people with more than best friend. I'm not doing anything wrong.

Wrong. You can have only one best friend. That's why it is called best friend. Look up the definition of best. You can have several good friends, but only one best friend. --Bullet Francisco (talk) Contributions Editcount 20:17, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Again that's not true! These friends I would give me life for therefore they are my best friends! User:Pkstarstorm1up

This message is about the blog HAPPY 20th ANNIVERSARY SONIC. Sorry it to so long for me to post Sonic Adventure 2. I had problems with my internet connection before but now this problem has been resolved. I promise there will be no more delays. Sonic100jam 18:54, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Please stop changing Sonic and Amy's ages on their articles. It was never said how long after Colors Generations took place. That, and everyone's age was never said in the game, either. So please stop, and thank you if you do. Lightning the Hedgehog

Howdy

Lloyd the Cat2
Genesjs "I don't die. I just go on adventures."
TALK – 21:39, March 13, 2012 (UTC)
I'd actually make more sense for people to try getting away with calling him bisexual because of his relationship with Helen, wouldn't it? :P But this is humanity we're talking about, and people can say some of the most ridiculous of things imaginable. Anyway, hi.


Could you please discontinue edit warring with me on the Amy Rose page? Morff made a decision to disclude single-game relationship characters a while ago, and I'm noly following this rule. Continue to edit war and I will block you for a short amount of time. Got it, bro? Serious Sam Minigun icon Heavy 19:49, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Might I ask what was justified you to upload fan work into our main space pages? You'd better read our Art Policy before conitnuing to add such images. Serious Sam Minigun icon Heavy 22:52, May 3, 2012 (UTC)


It wasn't fan work. It was ripped from the Sonic Generations Disc according to the person who uploaded it on deviantart. User:Pkstarstorm1up

Care to prove this? It certainly doesn't look official to me. Nor does it to anyone else. Serious Sam Minigun icon Heavy 23:01, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

Go to my deviantart account (I have the same user name there just type in pkstarstorm1up on deviantart) and you will see the pictures. Go click on them and the guy who uploaded them has stated that he ripped them from the Sonic Generations Disc and a whole bunch of people in the comments are saying that he's in violation of copyright crap. User:Pkstarstorm1up

I don't think I could trust this guy, and if his uploaded images are so-called Copyright Violation, we could potentially have the same issue as well. Serious Sam Minigun icon Heavy 23:07, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

It's only a copyright violation against deviantart's policy. It's not a copyright strike sent out by Sega or Sonic Team. Therefore seeing as how this site has so many official artwork and character models I don't think you would be in any danger. But alright if you really don't want them here I won't interfere. I was just trying to help because I thought they were all really cool and he said he ripped them from an official Sonic Generations Disc. User:Pkstarstorm1up

You can't trust everyone. Serious Sam Minigun icon Heavy 23:20, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry again.

But if by some chance some of the pictures do turn out to be official artwork in future games (such as the Sonic 4 episode 2 ones) will they be added back in? User:pkstarstorm1up

IF there's actual confirmation, knock yourself out. Serious Sam Minigun icon Heavy 23:24, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

Kay. Sorry for the trouble, and thanks for not blocking me. User:Pkstarstorm1up



--My stupidity. Sorry to all I was a dumb jerkwad to. I've matured and I just want everyone to know this. http://pkstarstorm1up.deviantart.com/journal/HOLY-FREAKING-CRAP-380773202

No we haven't I don't want anything to do with you. Goodbye.

You shouldn't come here to say something like that if someone is asking for a second chance when they've admitted how much of a pain in the butt they have been.

Block

I've blocked you for two weeks (considering your previous infractions) for edit-warring with User:MrSmartyMax. I expect to see improved composure while editing when you return to the Sonic News Network. --Bullet Francisco (talk) Contributions Editcount 03:06, November 18, 2013 (UTC)


(If I could figure out how to create a topic point I would.)


I seriously cannot believe all the nonsense I used to say. It seriously seems like I was a different person then. I am ashamed to even look at all this crap.

To everyone on this site that I was an utter nuisanice to.....I'm sorry. Words cannot describe how stupid I feel looking at everything I used to say. Thank you for not outright banning me for being such an intolerable butt wipe to others not only for their own opinions but also for stupid nonsense (Sonic X being a linked continuity crap like that).

User:Pkstarstorm1up

I have a question. While I know I'm blocked at the moment and can't do any editing I think that people can still see what I say here right? Well if I may ask how come all the Sonic X comics character pages were marked for deletion? Not that I'm upset or anything but I was told by an admin (I think it was SeriousSam) that it would be a great help for me to create those pages as the Sonic X comics are considered an alternate continuity from the Sonic X universe much like the several different Sonic the Hedgehog characters are in the multi universe comics? So wouldn't this just be a case of that? Because there are some distinct differences between certain characters in the comic Sonic X and the Anime Sonic X (El Gran Gordo and the crush on Ella for Eggman) (and being a bit more mature from the start in the comic for Chris.)

User:Pkstarstorm1up

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