Talk:Valkeen

Merge with Balkiry

I'd propose merging this with Balkiry, as "Valkeen", what it's designated as in the game files, appears to be a romanization of the Japanese name for Balkiry, "Valkyn" (バルキーン, "Barukīn" is pronounced the same way as "Valkeen" would be in Japanese), and I believe they're intended to be the same enemy, just redesigned like the others. BubbleRevolution (talk) 20:47, December 30, 2017 (UTC)

There is nothing subjectively proving this. It is a good theory, but we cannot be sure of this.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 20:52, December 30, 2017 (UTC)

I see where you're coming from, and I'd be inclined to agree with you if they didn't have almost identical names ("Valkyn" appears to be a fan romanization, "Valkeen" would also be acceptable if one were to romanize the word, and it doesn't seem like any official English spelling has been given by SEGA).

Several other enemies in Forces don't have much concrete proof of being the same outside of behaviors, as far as I can tell, Aero-Chaser and Sandworm aren't named in ANY known source, and both of them appear so radically different from their previous incarnations to the point that it'd be hard to recognize them on appearance alone, but due to their behavior one can logically conclude they're intended to be the same enemies.

"Valkeen" is so close to "Valkyn"/"Barukiin", and they appear fairly similar, so I feel like it's kind of odd NOT to consider them the same, it'd be like making a separate page for the Egg Pawns in Forces if were unnamed outside of the files, and were called "Eggpon" or something in the data. BubbleRevolution (talk) 21:58, December 30, 2017 (UTC)

Stealth Balkiry?

Isn't it possible Valkeen is the Stealth Balkiry? They have more higher speed than the Balkiry, and can drop bombs stealthily, kinda like a stealth bomber, TIE Bomber, or a Hyena Bomber. I mean, it's just a theory, but it MIGHT be possible. Oh, and the Balkiry along with other Lost World Badniks would need to have their models ripped one of these days. Just a thought. Macdawg (talk) 15:08, November 3, 2019 (UTC)

The Valkeen is not the Stealth Balkiry. It's not even the Balkiry. If it was, they would have the same name stated and this would have been cleared by Caleb Goellner months ago. DECOOL! (talk) 15:38, November 3, 2019 (UTC)

Eh, I don't think we can definitively say they AREN'T Balkiry, given the literal only source for the name is an internal filename (which, I might add, is just a romanized version of the Japanese name). Either way, I highly doubt they're intended to be the same thing, Stealth Balkiry is almost definitely just a creation for the comic. BubbleRevolution (talk) 20:34, November 3, 2019 (UTC)

Right u are. I knew that all along. And funny that we're talking about internal filenames, cause this little piggy was brought to my attention. vicenticotd\sonicforces\enemies\enm_batabata.mdl A Batabata badnik was in the War against the Evil Resistance, though we don't know if it was Pata-Bata, aka Hoverby, or something else entirely. I bet DeCool might have questions about this. And didn't u hear requests for models of all Badniks in Sonic Lost World? https://www.models-resource.com/wii_u/soniclostworld/ Just something to look into. Macdawg (talk) 21:03, November 3, 2019 (UTC)

Kinda like Hoverby/Hoverby Mk II/Pata-Bata? Yeah, I feel ya on that one. They appear alongside their Palmtree Panic comrades Anton in Issue 5, and we STILL don't have confirmation that these butterflies are one and the same. You may remember I talked with one of the IDW staff at New York Comic Con 2019 about it and she said she would try to talk to Ian Flynn bout it, but we still haven't heard anything yet. Regardless, when the Tokyo Olympic Games is released on Tuesday, be sure to update the credentials for Balkiry and the other Badniks that reappear in the game. Even the Death Egg Silver Sonic. Oh, and don't forget to add a proposal that high quality models of the Badniks in Lost World need to be added. (https://www.models-resource.com/wii_u/soniclostworld/ ) Macdawg (talk) 16:45, November 3, 2019 (UTC)