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in sega continuity, Ray was never part of the chaotix.Myself 123 16:09, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Something I heard is that an unused line in Sonic Heroes is Vector would say "Time to get chaotic with Team Chaotix!" 03:59, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Gallery page?

Should we make a gallery page for the Chaotix as a whole, comprising of Espio, Vector, Mighty, Charmy, and whoever else? This could help because we won't have post images of Team Chaotix into three artwork galleries. Knuckleschaotix 19:51, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Language in Sonic Colours

In the Sonic Colours picture with Team Chaotix, what language is Sonic and Tails speaking in? It looks like French. Blaze Sol (or Dame Percival)


AFAIK, Knuckle's was NEVER an actual member of the Chatoix, nothing suggests he was a legit member, just he was helping them stop Eggman, like any hero would.--RexGodwin (talk) 19:20, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

*cough*Knuckles' Chaotix*cough* BlueSpeeder (talk) 19:22, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Just becuase its called Knuckle's Chaotix doesn't mean he was in their group.--RexGodwin (talk) 19:25, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

He's playable. And he's considered a member of the Chaotix. Why do you think that the other continuities of Sonic, like the Archie Comics and Sonic the Comic have him in the Chaotix? BlueSpeeder (talk) 19:26, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Because the comics have their own shitty canon that has absolutely no impact or relevance to the game canon? And yeah, he's playable. because he's the main character of this spin-off. And its as simple as Knuckles being their ally. So if the game was called Sonic's Chaotix and it was featuring Sonic as the main character, you'd consider Sonic as a member of the Chaotix? lol nice logic.--RexGodwin (talk) 19:30, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

A. Don't swear. B. He's considered a Chaotix member. BlueSpeeder (talk) 19:31, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

He's not a Chaotix member in STC. And that's an awful argument anyway, because despite RexGodwin's unpleasant language, he's correct that game canon and comics canon is separate. That said, the Chaotix group was not defined in the original game. They were not a group that Knuckles allied with, according to the backstory; they were each individual heroes that came together during the course of the game. Entering speculation mode: either the group was not formed until after the game, in which case it only includes Vector, Espio and Charmy, or it was formed during the game and includes Knuckles and Mighty even though they left after their first appearance (c.f. Hulk being a founding member of the Avengers but leaving in issue 2). But we don't know. Whatever we decide must have context. -- Supermorff (talk) 07:53, July 20, 2013 (UTC)


I've looked through every page of each region's Chaotix 32X instruction manual, on the front and back of every box, and not once is this group of characters called "The Chaotix". The closest it gets is a page heading in the English language version that says "The Chaotix Crew" above the character profiles. No such thing exists in the Japanese manual.

Is there an official source for "The Chaotix" or "Chaotix" as a team name? Or are people just carrying this term over from the comic books? --IndigoPengi (talk) 19:33, February 2, 2018 (UTC)

Well, I suppose they are more professionally known as the "Chaotix Detective Agency" (although I believe that is more the name of their business). However, Sonic does say a line in the DS version of Sonic Colors that uses "Chaotix":
"Nope. Didn't see him. I guess it was a dumb idea to work off a lead I got from Chaotix."Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 19:41, February 2, 2018 (UTC)
So are we going to rename every article with “Chaotix Detective Agency” and “Team Chaotix” instead? Also at the matter from seeing the above posts, how do we know Knuckles, Heavy and Bomb were a part of the group? DeCool99 (talk) 19:56, February 2, 2018 (UTC)
What I meant was that we have a case where they are called the "Chaotix", meaning there is no need for renaming them. As for the “Chaotix Detective Agency”, like I said, that is the business they run, not their group name. Also, the English Chaotix manual (however accurate it is) puts Knuckles and Mighty as members of the group.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 20:05, February 2, 2018 (UTC)
From a "game function" perspective, Team Chaotix is the official name used in Sonic Heroes. From an "in universe" perspective, Chaotix Detective Agency is the proper name. (And neither of these apply to the original 32X game.) I don't see why a casual one-off line of dialogue from Sonic Colors DS should dictate the article name - especially if you have to work backwards to justify it. --IndigoPengi (talk) 22:15, February 2, 2018 (UTC)


We usually go for the latest name the subject gets for our article titles.--Luma.dash (talk) 22:43, February 2, 2018 (UTC)

That shouldn't apply to a casual line of dialogue, otherwise we'd have to rename "Silver the Hedgehog" to just "Silver". There's "Team Chaotix", which is the term used in Sonic Heroes, and there's "Chaotix Detective Agency", which is the in-universe name. And "THE Chaotix" appears to be rooted in the comic books, we should stop using it in relation to the games. --IndigoPengi (talk) 23:15, February 2, 2018 (UTC)
I don't think the Chaotix Detective Agency is the proper name for this group. It seems to refer more to the business they are running. As such, if we are going to mention the "Chaotix Detective Agency", it has to be given its own article.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 10:52, February 3, 2018 (UTC)
Furthermore, in the Sonic Heroes manual, they even refer to Team Chaotix as "Chaotix". You can see it here.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 10:55, February 3, 2018 (UTC)
You're not considering the context. The Heroes manual strengthens the point I'm making. None of the other individual character profiles mention their respective team names. That's because in-universe, within the Sonic Heroes game's story, they don't call themselves "Team Rose", "Team Dark", "Team Sonic". But Vector, Espio and Charmy, in-universe, do call themselves the "Chaotix Detective Agency". "Chaotix", in the context of the manual, is then used as short-hand for "Chaotix Detective Agency", just as "Knuckles" is used as shorthand for "Knuckles the Echidna". That's why Charmy's profile says "the remaining Chaotix staff". The business name is the group name. The business is the reason, in-universe, they have a group name. What you're arguing is like arguing that Venkman, Ray, Egon and Winston aren't collectively known as "Ghostbusters" because Ghostbusters is the name of their business. The manual also shows that whilst "Chaotix" is used as shorthand for the business, "THE Chaotix" isn't the correct nomenclature. The article should either be "Chaotix Detective Agency", which is the in-universe name, or "Team Chaotix", which is the game function name, used as recently as Sonic Runners Adventure. Leaving it as "Chaotix" is like changing "Silver the Hedgehog" to just "Silver". --IndigoPengi (talk) 13:23, February 3, 2018 (UTC)
All that being said, "Team Chaotix" and "Chaotix Detective Agency" as separate articles would be fine too. Since Team Chaotix exists as a game term within Sonic Heroes, Sonic Runners Adventure etc, but doesn't exist as a game term in Sonic Rivals 2, despite the Chaotix Detective Agency having a presence in that game. --IndigoPengi (talk) 13:27, February 3, 2018 (UTC)
Excuse me for being bold, but how do you know it us used for shorthand for their business? Besides, the manual can be just as valable a source of terms as in-game. From where I stand, I see simply a name, not to be considered to be in context of anything else.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 13:33, February 3, 2018 (UTC)
"This scatterbrained funny-kid likes nothing more than fooling around, and making the remaining Chaotix staff look professional." --IndigoPengi (talk) 16:22, February 3, 2018 (UTC)
"One lazy day, a mysterious package is delivered to Chaotix, and inside they find a transceiver which mysteriously promises a handsome payment if Chaotix will take on a chase." - Chaotix is used as a reference to the team.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 16:26, February 3, 2018 (UTC)
Yes. There it is also being used as a shorthand name for the detective agency. The manual establishes the full name "Chaotix Detective Agency" then goes on to use "Chaotix" as shorthand. The phrase "Chaotix staff" wouldn't make sense unless they're using Chaotix as the shorthand name of the detective agency. Just as "Silver" is the shorthand name for "Silver the Hedgehog" and "Sonic 2" is shorthand for "Sonic the Hedgehog 2". Vector, Espio and Charmy's profiles in the Japanese Sonic Heroes manual all use the full "Chaotix Detective Agency" title (as do their Sonic Channel profiles) and the Japanese story blurb simply says that a package was "delivered to the office". --IndigoPengi (talk) 20:51, February 3, 2018 (UTC)
You cannot keep using that argument. We cannot know for certain that this is intended to be shorthand. What you are suggesting is bordering speculation and assumption, and speculation is forbidden on a wikia. I don't disagree that the Chaotix Detective Agency is a term, but I believe it refers to their business. And the team and the business should be separate terms - at the beginning of the Egg Fleet, Vector refers to them as a team. Anywho, you got the answer you asked for in the beginning. We have given proofs that "Chaotix" is used as a team name.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 21:02, February 3, 2018 (UTC)
Again, Charmy's profile says "Chaotix staff". Therefore Chaotix is a business. The full name of the business is Chaotix Detective Agency. In the Japanese manual that it's translated from, it explicitly says "Chaotix Detective Agency" each time. The intention is clear. It's a massive leap of logic to assume that they're using the name to refer to something other than the detective agency. We also have proofs that the blue hedgehog is called "Sonic", but his full name is still "Sonic the Hedgehog".--IndigoPengi (talk) 22:23, February 3, 2018 (UTC)


Hello. I know we came to the conclusion that the team only consisted of Vector, Espio and Charmy, nad that the other guys from Knuckles' CHaotix did not count. However, this magazine lists both Knuckles and Mighty as part of the Chaotix.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 17:20, August 21, 2018 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean? It's just talking about who the characters in the game are. And it's just a magazine article by a staff writer/freelancer. --IndigoPengi (talk) 18:20, August 21, 2018 (UTC)
It still says that Knuckles and co. are on the same team in Knuckles' Chaotix. And if we cannot trust a magazine writer, who can we trust?Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 18:39, August 21, 2018 (UTC)
Looking at that magazine scan, It looks like a very serious and carefully made magazine. So there's high chances that this magazine is trust-able. Also the title of that page only says "Chaotix" which mean that the magazine may be referring to the team, not the game. Okay TailsMulyadi, Seto 18:56, August 21, 2018 (UTC)
It's a British gaming magazine's rundown of characters from the video game Chaotix. It doesn't describe them as a formal team like the Justice League. Even if it did, it's not like the writer was being paid to define the lore of the series, just write about upcoming games. If we go down that road then Espio is a "geezer". --IndigoPengi (talk) 19:21, August 21, 2018 (UTC)
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