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Sonic Lost World[]
Isn't the Sonic Lost World example just a Homing Attack? Myself 123 22:24, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
Only in name aside from locking on to the same enimie more then once it functions like the Light Speed Attack minus the charge time. 
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Well if it's called the Homing Attack in the game it shouldn't be on this page, it may be trivia worthy, but it certainly doesn't deserve its own section. Myself 123 15:01, November 9, 2013 (UTC)
No it doesn't change the fact that it's clearly the Light Speed Attack That's like saying the Rolling Attack Should be moved to the Spin Dash page because a game mistakenly calls it that. Now if you wanted to put the trivia on the Homing Attack page that's fine. Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere...
I think it's pretty clear this is just a re-imagining of the Homing Attack, seems pretty odd to have the Light Speed Attack without a Homing Attack, the execution of the attack seems to be the same as the Homing Attack too, and it doesn't seem to have any connection, in terms of performance, to the Light Speed Attack either. Plus, it's not like this game is known for following the norm for Sonic games. Myself 123 23:39, November 9, 2013 (UTC)
That it is if you want to mention it on the Homing Attack page your free to but theres no reason to remove it from here because it's just as easy to be a reimagining of the Light Speed Attack or an upgrade to it so by putting it on both were safe in ethier manner. Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere...
Except it's called the Homing Attack. Myself 123 23:45, November 9, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah and Amy was called Sally in her first American debut so her Sonic Cd info should be moved to that page then right? Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere...
No, that's not an accurate analogy at all, this move is named the Homing Attack, it is performed mostly the same way as the Homing Attack, were as in the case of Amy, it's quite clear she wasn't the same character from the upcoming cartoon, with both characters having completely different appearances, as well as the fact that the character was named Amy in Japan. Myself 123 23:51, November 9, 2013 (UTC)
Actually it is because aside from the activation it is Identically in use to the Light Speed Attack. So far your the only person whose shown anything about wanting to remove it from this page so as I said before if you want to compromise and have it on both pages your free to but there's no point in removing it from this page. Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere...
Actually, from what I've seen it has more in common with the Homing Attack than the Light Speed Attack, the only thing that makes it similar to the Light Speed Attack is that if you time it right, the Homing Attack can auto chain attacks, I hardly think that makes it the same as the Light Speed Attack. Myself 123 00:07, November 10, 2013 (UTC)
No it is indeed more like the Light Speed Attack your the only person trying to say it isn't Just take the compromise the only thing like the Homing Attack is the Activation method everything else is like the Light Speed Attack. Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere...
Might does not make right, just because I'm the only one objecting doesn't mean I'm wrong, besides I don't see anyone saying it is the same either. And the fact that it's executed the exact same way as the Homing Attack, and does exactly the same as the Homing Attack with the added option of auto chaining like the Light Speed Attack, I'd say it has more in common with the Homing Attack. Myself 123 00:16, November 10, 2013 (UTC)
Yes Might doesn't make right but your also ignoring democracy and the fact it's the Light Speed Attack with the Homing Attack activation this will never end Myself the Compromise is the best option it's on both pages and people can make their own choice about which one they think it is. Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere...
I'm not ignoring democracy, it's one against one right now and you seem to ignoring the fact that the only similarity between this and the Light Speed Attack is multi chaining attacks, which can only be done if the attack is executed at the right time I believe. Myself 123 00:24, November 10, 2013 (UTC)
Which is just the same as the Light Speed Attack and other attacks like it. Let's look at the cold hard facts here It's called the Homing Attack (+1 for it being the Homing Attack) It can hit one or more enemies in a Single Attack (+1 for it being the Light Speed Attack) can do more damage if done under the right circumstances (+1 for it being the Light Speed Attack). There you have it 2 for the Light Speed Attack and only one for the Homing Attack there's no reason to call it the Homing Attack aside from pointing out that the game calls it that. SEGA is bound to make some mistakes here and there this is the Attacks first Appearance since Sonic Heroes. Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere...
Since when did the Light Speed Attack deal more damage when performed at the right time? Also, you left out the attack having the same execution as the Homing Attack. Myself 123 00:34, November 10, 2013 (UTC)
Okay fine the more damage if done against Chaos 6 or large bosses that you can get caught on it and Sonic will hit the boss and do more damage but still it's still a 2 to 2 thing there's no way to 100% say if it's one or the other so by having it one both pages we cover it completely and don't run the risk of messing up. Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere...
Ok, I really must insist here. The move in Sonic Lost World is definitely the Homing Attack and not the Light Speed Attack, I've multiple videos and I can say without a doubt that this is the Homing Attack; it is executed the same way it has the same uses in the game. The only similarities I see with this move and the Light Speed Attack is how it can attack multiple enemies in one hit, and even in sense it has some differences, as the Light Speed Attack attacks all on-screen enemies when executed, while this move requires precise timing in order to hit all enemies.
Even if we were to ignore all these points, the move is actually called the Homing Attack in the game, so it should be on the Homing Attack page, even if it has differences to previous iterations of the game, that's what the creators called it so saying it's something else, on a Sonic wiki which is suppose to be factual, is just plain wrong, we can't be the best source of Sonic information with glaring misnomers like this. Myself 123 17:31, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
If we really wanted to be factualy and truthfull we would have it both pages sense it is really nethier als o it doesn't attack all onscreen senmies it attacks the ones near Sonic. And by that Logic if the next Zelda game to have the Master Sword called it the Bird Sword the information about that game would have to go on it's own page despite it clearly being the Master Sword if you want to put it on the Homing Attack page I wont stop you but as it stands it is ethier both or the Light Speed Attack do to the simple fact that it has more in common with the Light Speed Attack. Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere...
But is doesn't have more in common with the Light Speed Attack, it only has one thing in common with the Light Speed Attack and even then it's executed differently to how the Light Speed Attack has been performed in past games, the information should not be on this page because it's not the Light Speed Attack. If the information remains on this page, it would be trivia at best. Myself 123 17:43, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
It would be Trivia at best on both pages if that's how you put It below I will post the cold hard facts.
- Attacks all foes in it's lock on area
- Can do more damage to certain foes
- animation in the Wii U version for hitting multiply foes is the same as Sonic Adventures Light Speed Attack
- Takes more time to charge/lock on then the Homing Attack
- Has a wider area of effect
Those are the cold hard facts as it stands it has more in common with the Light Speed Attack then the Homing Attack. Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere...
The Light Speed Attack does not deal more damage to certain foes, the Homing Attack in this game doesn't take more time to charge, the attack doesn't always attack all nearby enemies, it only does that when performed at the right time, unlike the Light Speed Attack, the attack doesn't have a wider area of effect either and the Light Speed Attack only does that if several enemies are spread apart from each other. The reality is this:
- Similarities to the Homing Attack
- Named the Homing Attack.
- Has the same execution as the Homing Attack
- Has the same uses and function as the Homing Attack
- Similarities to the Light Speed Attack
- Can Attack all nearby enemies.
And like I've said before, that's only when executed at the right time. Myself 123 18:00, January 19, 2014 (UTC)B
Unless it says it is the Light Speed Attack, then it must remain the Homing Attack.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 18:17, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
Oh so if the next game to have Knuckles playable calls his Glide Air Ram then it's cearly that game designers can screw things up escpcially when thier not the same ones as before. As it stands I say we mention it one both pages sense it in such a grey aera. Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere...
The problem is, this isn't a gray area, the move is incredibly similar to the Homing Attack and is called the Homing Attack, so it should be on the Homing Attack page. Myself 123 18:27, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
Except it is also increadbly simaler to the Light Speed Attack as well as it stands this can go ethier way based on the player/reader I've taken some action to put it on both pages expand if you want. User:Sonamyfan66/Signature
Except it doesn't have much in common with the Light Speed Attack. Myself 123 18:35, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
More then the Homign Attack your refuseing to see it. Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere...
I'm not refusing to see it, I've seen all the similarities the move has with the Light Speed Attack and it's one thing and even that one thing has some differences with the move in past games. Myself 123 18:41, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
Well then you can see how it can go both ways then. Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere...
Well no, because it only has one similarity to the Light Speed Attack and three similarities to the Homing Attack, including the name which takes higher precedence that the other points. Myself 123 18:49, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
Uh no there's more then one can hit mutlply foes,can be used to do more damage (Use it on Chaos 6), and takes longer to use then just going one at a time. Also name shame see what I told Ultra. Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere...
I already countered some of those points earlier and that last point is completely irrelevant. Myself 123 19:03, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
No it's not at all. Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere...
Of course it is because it's a different premise that you're trying to compare to this case. The fact of the matter is this a the Homing Attack and should not be on this page because it's no the Light Speed Attack because it's not named as such and it doesn't have enough similarities to that move. I don't know how I could make that any clearer. Myself 123 19:13, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
You sir are being a hypocrite and ignoreing my points. Oh but your an adim which means everything you say about the series is true and can never be wrong about it. Go on remove it then have you way Mr.Adim I'm done dealing with you. Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere...
How am I being a hypocrite? And I'm not ignoring you points, I just believe your points are wrong. Also, I'm sure you're aware that this wiki doesn't run on a hierarchy and that my word, or nay admin's for that matter, is not final, but as you seem to be ok with me fixing the information, I guess that doesn't really matter. Myself 123 19:24, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
As long as you something about it having/drawing something from it I'm fine. Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere...