Result: MetalShadow272 (talk) (contributions) was promoted to chat moderator on 26 July 2013.

MetalShadow272

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Please read my statement before you wish to vote.

I nominated MetalShadow272 for chat moderator because of his behavior and intelligence with the chat feature. He is mature enough to handle the chat moderator tools, and despite the past, I see MetalShadow272 as a user who was demoted unfairly. Even when I was a chat mod, Metal would tell me a user is acting up or breaking the rules when I was the only mod on chat. His intelligence, also mixed with his knowledge of chat policy rules, are enough to tell me Metal is ready for the chat mod tools once again. BlueSpeeder (talk) 21:31, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

I accept this nomination. MetalMickey272

Support

  1. As a poser. BlueSpeeder (talk) 21:31, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
  2. Sonic'Mariosonic15I always race to win!Tails 21:34, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Should not have been demoted in the first place. --Bullet Francisco (talk) Contributions Editcount 21:45, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
  4. User:JokerJay779
  5. GraveEclipse567 21:59, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
  6. I support this all the way. He has shown that he is responcible since his past demotion. The Shadow Of Darkness (talk) 22:15, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
  7. walkincheck ! 22:53, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
  8. I support. (Ohmygod123 (talk) 23:02, July 19, 2013 (UTC))
  9. MintsyWinterBlue (talk) (contributions) 23:44, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
  10. Per all. The Fresh Prince of Grooseland 20 July 2013 03:54 (UTC)
  11. THE REFLEX dancing on the valentine 10:22, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
  12. Shaman Kraag 12:36, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
  13. MarioSonic (talk) 19:51, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
  14. Time Biter "The Rift" 01:20, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
  15. User:SplashTheHedgehog/Signature2 22:22, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Oppose

  1. SilverPlays97 (Wall) (Contributions) 21:41, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
  2. Sorry Metal, you were a good mod, but I get the feeling you will do something that will cause a demotion at some point, it happened twice already. Pacmansonic138 (talk) 21:46, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Per Pacman. You have already been demoted from this position twice despite that you are finally "growing up" a bit (When I say that I mean you started to mature as a person) so I am definitely have to vote for opposition. Sorry Metal. Mystic Orb: Who do you think I am? What do you want? What do I do? 22:16, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
  4. I hate the fact that I'm opposing again but.. to me Metal is well.. quite immature and I have other issues about his behavior on the chat, thus, We have enough active chat mods. --Quack Like you mean it 13:12, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

  • I have two important things to say. Firstly, Pacman's vote is pessimistic and not AGF (don't tell me you don't know what AGF stands for by now), but that's fine by me. Second of all, Mr. Francisco, you were a strong offsite supporter of Metal's demotion back in March. You now say he shouldn't have been demoted; do you regret your previous opinion? THE REFLEX dancing on the valentine 22:01, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
    • I was misled by the poster of the demotion. Either way, irrelevant. --Bullet Francisco (talk) Contributions Editcount 22:06, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
      • Misled by Fly, eh? Hmm, I suppose that makes sense. It's quite obvious that statements like "Metal has shown himself to be incapable because of the immaturity he shows on and off chat. Attacking users? Running away after insulting several users on chat? Purposefully attempts to drive a staff member off the wiki and personally attacking him at that? On top of that, leaving the wiki because someone put him up for demotion?" show that you're mistaken. If that's misleading, Fly was either exaggerating beyond all measure or telling blatant lies out of spite. THE REFLEX dancing on the valentine 22:28, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
        • This is the last time I'm going to warn you for the inappropriate and offensive behavior. Please stop. As for the quote, again, I was misled. I am not at liberty to give further details at this time, but I have since retracted my opinion and apologized to certain users. --Bullet Francisco (talk) Contributions Editcount 22:30, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
          • "I have since retracted my opinion and apologized to certain users." That's all you had to say, you know, then I probably wouldn't have made that false observation that you somehow saw as "inappropriate and offensive"(?). And if you'd been honest about how you were misled (like you did below) earlier on, I would have understood. THE REFLEX dancing on the valentine 10:22, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
  • @Orb: The first demotion was as a punishment for a offsite action I caused that was brought to this site. The second demotion was a misunderstanding with problems that should have been discussed with me privately, also with offsite discussions that shouldn't have been brought onsite. I also don't see how me maturing is a reason to oppose, as it would mean I would have a better understanding of the rules and would be better fit to handle most situations responsibly. I respect your choice of opposition, but I would appreciate if you clarify to me why that would be a reason to oppose. MetalMickey272
    • I'm going to be very straightforward with this. We all know why you have been demoted from Chat Moderator twice in the past. Because you were rude and immature in many ways that were presented during this and that (I don't have to go into any detail with those two sites). I am not the kind of person who is like "We should put the past behind where it belongs". Even though I don't know you that well nor the type of person who is willing to use Chat as often as everyday to see how you behave, as much as I have read these sources over 10 times, I still see the bad of you overwhelmingly weigh against the good of you but I'm not saying that you are completely a deceitful person. You still have the potential to convince all of us users of the community to see you perform good deeds. Maybe you have already done that with some users who have regained your trust but some users such as me are yet to witness this. Mystic Orb: Who do you think I am? What do you want? What do I do? 01:27, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
      • I hope you don't mind if I step in, but the demotion requests aren't really the best representation of what happened... Both of the situations were blown out of proportion. --Bullet Francisco (talk) Contributions Editcount 01:31, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
  • In case you are all curious as to what Le Solace is referring to, I'll explain. I messaged Le Solace on Skype around the time of March telling him how "I" felt about the whole situation. At that point, I had left the Sonic News Network and didn't really have much to do with it. Fly was setting up a demotion for Metal. Le Solace opposed, so Fly wanted me to convince him otherwise. He told me what to say. Because I was trying to be a good friend, I did what he wanted... I've already apologized to the users influenced by my foolish mistake. I apologize again now. --Bullet Francisco (talk) Contributions Editcount 00:46, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
    • Thanks for telling the truth like any good person. I would have done just the same. Why didn't you tell me this earlier, then there would have been no trouble! It's my fault as well, to be honest, for being swayed by Fly's persuasion (and yours). This is a memorable example of why one should always trust their own feelings and no one else's, not even those of their best friends. THE REFLEX dancing on the valentine 10:22, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

Conclusion

  • Although there was some opposition, consensus seems to be in your favor. Congratulations! You have been made a chat moderator! This discussion will be removed shortly. --Bullet Francisco (talk) Contributions Editcount 00:12, July 26, 2013 (UTC)


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