Talk:Sonic Generations/Archive 1

This page is going to be spammed a lot, so we need to protect Sonic Generations... Hey! Bullet!  The Easter Bunny is Here! 01:04, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Picture perfect
Um, how many pictures of the two sonic's running together do we need for this article?--Mystic Monkey sez. 03:06, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Personally, I think we only need one.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 03:41, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Should someone make a page of Classic Sonic, or no? Temporary signature is temporary 06:06, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

My answer would be no. Sonic is Sonic. It doesn't matter what he looks like. There is no need to make more than one article for the same character in the same continuity.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 06:27, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Temporary signature is temporary 06:28, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Anyway if we did make a Classic Sonic page we would need to make a Classic Tails Classic Knuckles Classic Eggman ETC - Robbie the HedgeBoy

just saw thepage and it's true we need only one image Ediskrad327 13:26, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Big change :)
woah this page changed alot! did slugdrones do most of this? he's really good at editing pages. i thought the previous one was good but slugdrones made this page alot better.-- DarkRoUge

No, 58SD did not do this. In fact, 58SD has been inactive for quite awhile.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 05:21, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

but i saw slugdrones do all this. even though he is inactive. check the history! he fixed up the whole page. its like we're nothing without him. -- DarkRoUge

That is not Slugdrones. That's Sonic100jam.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 06:45, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

slugdrones is the one who added the info box, and cleared up all useless information and fan opinions. he made it really neat whereas jam's contributions were just additional slug did the most around here.-- DarkRoUge

December 31st, 2011?
Cant be December 31st 2011 Everything will be shut anyone must of edited that cause there is no proof to me i think it will be Summer or June or july due to a *Fast* Gameplay Trailer

I agree Sega tends to launch there Sonic games around summer. Gives Summer of Sonic something to glee about.--''' Mystic Monkey is at the  Chao Garden  this Easter. ''' 12:46, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

I deleted the December 31st thing because we have no proof its probaly going to be summer or end of summer --Robbie The HedgeBoy 14:02, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Well somebody put it back check it out.phierbalistic 16:50, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Well listen up its turns out thats the RETAILERS date not the Release Date... --Robbie The HedgeBoy 12:14, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

All I know is that, according to an interview on X-Play, the game will be released at the end of this year. KylOverlord 16:35, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Launch Date
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Why did the word holiday make you think November? It's probably referring to summer, maybe even June, when the first game was released.  Myself  123  21:23, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Holiday may be refering to the holiday in the South Hemisphery (Or whatever it's typed)--Luke the hedgehog 17:00, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Page lock
This page has been locked until tomorrow. Now I'm well aware that a Spanish interview mentions something about Tails, Knuckles and Shadow, but this doesn't necessarily mean that those characters are going to be in it. Now the User SonicWiki said that this [roughly] translates into "We have taken every opportunity we can use Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, etc". This sounds to me like they're saying that they might use these characters among others. Therefore, these characters should not be put on the page without a creditable source. Thank you.  Myself 123  00:56, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Well that sounds more solid than the other thing, I only locked the page for a day, so you can add that to the page when the lock is up.  Myself 123  17:50, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Well common protocol is to add characters to the characters section.  Myself 123  18:03, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Just add the characters.  Myself 123  18:18, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Where it says Confirmed Characters. =/ Alter the Wolf   Protector of Chaos   18:24, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Problem with main image
Forgive me I am not an expert on this site's policy but shouldn't only official images be allowed? This image is fan made (albiet using part of an official image) and therefore isn't it fannon? Don't get me wrong it looks awesome but I think it's misinformative to place this image on the Sonic Generations page as the main image because it suggests that this is official artwork from SEGA when it is not.Jacktheinfinite101 02:29, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks.Jacktheinfinite101 02:55, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Too much Artwork
When Sega releases info on new levels, the Gallery section will be filled, shouldn't we lessen the amount of pictures in the gallery?--Bullet Francisco Don't Be a Jerk to the Bullet!  18:07, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah it would probably be a good idea... --Rainbowroad6w 00:15, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Planet Wisp?
Are there any sources that hint that Planet Wisp will be in the game? Otherwise, I think it should be taken out of the article. The Master of War Games! Curiously Adventuring! TheWarGame 19:30, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Discrepency
A few months earlier when a game for Sonic's 20th anniversary was announced, the announcement said it was supposed to be for the Wii, did it not?--Kagi mizu -Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 18:01, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Um everything else says it is only for the XBox 360 and PS3. --Rainbowroad6w 00:14, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

...Actually... check this blog out... --Rainbowroad6w 22:26, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Wait has the game been confirmed for the 3DS?
I just read something and people (like me) are still thinking it could be typo (which has happened before), yet it is unlikely. So, saying this, we obviously know that SEGA themselves have not told us it is for the 3DS. Shouldn't we get rid of this info on the article until we're positive that it'll be for the 3DS? --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher.( Talk )( Wanna check out some recent finds of mine? ) 23:03, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

3DS version, now with extra confirmed
http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=158947 I'd say it's pretty darn official that Sonic Generations is coming to the 3DS. I still don't get SEGA's logic on this, but I'll roll with it since that's one less reason for me to finally cave and spend oodles of money on a PS3. Teamrocketspy621 00:31, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

I just hope this is real this time, this is the only system I have that Sonic Generations is going to be on. The Swell King is invincible!!!!! I am Imsosuperswell1 21:44, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Classic and Modern - That's it
Alright, since this edit war's obviously going to keep going, I'm gonna clear things up here: There is no "Dreamcast Era" in this game. To call it an era of its own is a mockery to the word, since it's barely got any games to justify differentiating it as such. As the clear debut of Sonic's modern design, the "Dreamcast Era" is the earliest part of the Modern Era. If someone wants to disprove me and prove that it's an era of its own, you can either point out that there's a third Sonic running around that I've clearly just missed, or that each system generation gets its own separate era, meaning that there are Master System and Saturn Eras separate from the Classic Era and that Gamecube/PS2/Xbox and Wii/PS3/360 are the other subsections of the Modern Era alongside the Dreamcast Era. Am I saying there won't be stages from Dreamcast games in Generations? Absolutely not - I'm saying that to act like so few games and their respective stages deserve their own era is just looking at this from the wrong angle. The developers have made a clear-cut distinction that there is Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic, Classic gameplay and Modern gameplay, and Classic Era stages and Modern Era stages. It's just the dichotomy of the game. Even if they talk about the inclusion of stages from the Dreamcast games, that does not imply that the Dreamcast games alone get their own separate era. Teamrocketspy621 20:30, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

The director of Sega of America begs to differ! This video was on the page, but was removed for seemingly no reason.  Myself <font color="Black">123  20:53, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

And is the director of Sega of America working on the game himself? I wouldn't expect him to be. Representatives and executives can say things that aren't entirely right when they're talking about things they aren't completely familiar with. Do not put stock in the word of an American branch of a Japanese company. I've heard Nintendo of America say plenty of things that confirmed not to be true, like "There is no Legend of Zelda timeline." It does not make any sense that as few as two games would get their own era, regardless of what an American representative who is not directly working on the game says. Teamrocketspy621 01:02, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Now you're just poking holes in it. I would think that the Director of a gaming company would know what he's talking about. Also, he's the only person to actually say anything about this, though I agree with you that 2 games (there are 3 sonic games on the Dreamcast BTW) isn't enough for an era, that's what he called it, so that's what we're calling it.  Myself <font color="Black">123  18:19, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Dude, Teamrocket, SEGA THEMSELVES said that there is a Dreamcast era. Have you not been watching the interviews with the people working on the game? Because they have been saying that there is "a Classic era, a Dreamcast era, and a Modern era." --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher.( Talk )( Wanna check out some recent finds of mine? ) 00:35, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

It might not just be Dreamcast Games, but also games released during that time. Either that or there will be lots of Dreamcast Game levels in Sonic Generations. The Swell King is invincible!!!!! I am Imsosuperswell1 20:29, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

From today's PR: "Set across three defining eras from Sonic the Hedgehog’s twenty year history, Sonic Generations™ for Nintendo 3DS will see SEGA’s mascot speeding through new stereoscopic 3D levels designed exclusively for the handheld console." THAT'S the kind of proof I was looking for - something on paper, not just an American representative of a company branch that is not actually making the game offhandedly saying "Yeah there's gonna be Dreamcast levels, lol." I rest my case, and I solemnly accept the truth that I was wrong. Somehow, this is not the first time I have thought more logically than the people actually making the games. Teamrocketspy621 18:47, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Dude...that was moronic.

-<font color="#000000">SalaComMander 18:53, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Sala, he admitted he screwed up and you really don't have to tell him that was moronic. That doesn't help anything and doesn't make him feel any better about the fact he screwed up. --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher.( Talk )( Wanna check out some recent finds of mine? ) 18:58, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

He didn't just "screw up", he argued with 100% confirmed facts. He thought he knew more about an unreleased Sonic game than the director of SOA (not to mention insulting his intelligence). The closest he came to admitting he screwed up was claiming that that very same director was not a reliable source of information, thus he couldn't be trusted. Just to clarify, you were aware of all this, right? -<font color="#000000">SalaComMander 19:13, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

...And I suppose you think I'm just some stupid kid now, am I right? I was wrong. Is it not enough for you that I actually came back to this talk page and said, "Yeah, so, you guys were right all along, and I didn't trust sources I shouldn't have doubted," rather than just silently skulk off to lick my wounds? I specifically came back to this page not to reignite arguments, but to admit my undisputed defeat. And what do I get? Someone who I don't know at all, twisting my words to say that I'd called the director of Sega of America unintelligent, rather than just possibly misinformed. I cannot be right every time - although I strive to do so, sometimes logic and common sense just flat-out doesn't square up with how game developers think. And sometimes, I'm not always sure they're the ones making the right decisions in the first place, but that's another story. This is not the first time I have been wrong about something like this, nor will it be the last, I wager. Perhaps next time, I'll just stay silent rather than apologize for such vehement arguing. Teamrocketspy621 00:20, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

You never said you were wrong for doubting the director of SOA. The only thing you admitted was that you were wrong about was the Dreamcast era, and even then, you did it in a manner that made it sound as if our sources aren't as reliable by saying "THAT'S the kind of proof I was looking for - something on paper, not just an American representative of a company branch that is not actually making the game offhandedly saying 'Yeah there's gonna be Dreamcast levels, lol', which, by the way, is insulting his intelligence, and also shows ignorance on your part. I don't think your just some stupid kid, but I do think that you need to learn how things work a little better.

-<font color="#000000">SalaComMander 05:40, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Too Many Pictures
You guys we have got WAY too many gameplay shots. We should cut it down. If we keep this up as new gameplay shots come in, the page will end up being TOO LONG. --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher.( Talk )( Wanna check out some recent finds of mine? ) 00:35, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Great. --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher.( Talk )( Wanna check out some recent finds of mine? ) 01:09, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Exclusives
Are those levels actually stated to be exclusive to the 3DS? Not being a reader of Nintendo Power, I do not know.  Myself  <font color="Black">123  18:21, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

So, Nintendo Power have stated that Casino Night is exclusive to the 3DS but they haven't confirmed Launch Base?  Myself  <font color="Black">123  10:45, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Seaside Hill and City Escape?
Source? Knuckleschaotix 19:27, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Good, somebody deleted it. I didn't think so. Knuckleschaotix 21:14, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

There was no source, so I deleted it.  Myself  <font color="Black">123  21:16, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Warning
If we know who is the unnamed nemesis, please let me make the article of him/her. I never created an article in this wiki before. Respect the Brawler. CesarTeamHYRO 02:43, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

A wiki isn't about who can create a page first, it's about a community contributing to give everyone as much information as possible.  Myself  <font color="Black">123  20:37, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Tails, crisis city and plnte whisp confirmed???
since when were these confirmed?- 14 sonicstar

Tails was confirmed in a video interview at E3 (I posted a source). I haven't heard anything definitive about those other two though. An anonymous source gave TSSZ an alleged complete list of levels, but I don't know if I trust it o_0 Here's the article though, if you'd like to see it: http://www.tssznews.com/2011/06/08/exclusive-source-confirms-near-final-sonic-generations-level-list/ The Variable 06:06, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Archive
It takes forever for this page to load. Can I archive it?--

Bad info
"This is the first game Classic Sonic is rendered in a CGI artwork. " Forgetting 3D Blast, Sonic 3, Sonic Jam, etc, are we?Gerardwayjr 01:30, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Classic Sonic might appear again in the future.
The Wiki page says that Classic Sonic will not appear in the future because of what Aaron Webber stated but it was misinterpreted.

RubyEclipse: Looks like my quote got taken out of context - I can clarify here.

The article cites me saying "only for this game", but that's not actually what is said. The line is: "Just for this game, we brought back Classic Sonic", implying simply that he was brought back specifically for this game, not necessarily 'once and for all'.

Will Classic Sonic ever be seen again in the future? That's a good question, and one that all the teams at SEGA will determine. I'm personally stoked to see him return in this game, and I know many of you guys are, too!http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?374015-Aaron-Webber-confirms-that-Classic-Sonic-is-back-for-this-game-only.&p=6712799&viewfull=1#post6712799

I honestly don't think Classic Sonic will appear again anytime soon, otherwise Modern Sonic's purpose of existence will just become Null then. I think its best that Classic only appears in special occassions in the games or whatever. Lloyd the Cat "I hog that hedgehate!"  21:28, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

One Question
The info of the stages and bosses and stuff, is it even official? CesarTeamHYRO 18:55, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think so. I've never even heard or read anything about that. But I'm going to keep it there just in case it's actually true information. Metal Shadow:  The Ultimate Robot  18:57, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Spoilers
Should we include that spoilers for the characters on their respective pages, or should we wait for an official confirmation? For example, should I list Sonic Generations under appearances for, say, Charmy, on his page, or should I leave it? Knuckleschaotix 15:50, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

No. I recommend not putting it there unless more information backing up their appearances in the game comes out. Because in later months, if alot more information about characters comes out, and none of those characters are mentioned, it would make this wikia look like a laughingstock. If someone does put it on a character's article, then I would just put hinted by it, meaning they could or could not appear in the game. Metal Shadow:  The Ultimate Robot  15:55, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

I think there shouldn't be 2 sections for bosses. I think we shouldn't put the bosses in the characters section. Espically since the final boss is in the characters section, and just put the bosses in the spoilers section. 3P START! 14:18, June 25, 2011 (UTC)3P START! 10:18, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Bosses
{{Shan|text=I don't think "Genesis" and the "Information Pod" are bosses. According to TSSZ, there will be "limited demoes of the classic 16-bit games," which is what I believe to be "Genesis". They also mentioned something about information on all Sonic games, and all things Sonic, I think this is the "Information Pod".

Shield Video! and Some Classic Modern Switching!
I found a video consisting of the shields from the Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles games for Sonic Generations!thumb|342px|right|The shield video!﻿ Should we put ti in the Generations article or the Green Hill (Sonic Generations) article? Lightning the Hedgehog:  The Electricity Master  14:15, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe, the shields don't look like they're fully animated mind.  Myself <font color="Black">123  14:22, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Who knows? Maybe that's what they'll look like in actual gameplay. Lightning the Hedgehog:  The Electricity Master  14:24, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

I doubt it.  Myself <font color="Black">123  14:27, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Other Characters
All the videos have said only Classic and Modern Sonic but I found this on the official Sonic Generations page on Sega.com.

<p style="margin-left: 40px">"Unlock New Adventures Once you complete each level and ‘free’ Sonic’s captured friends, you’ll get to go back and take on more challenges with them at your side."

This could be related to the circles with the character's names on them. The Master of War Games! Curiously Adventuring! TheWarGame 21:02, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Game engine
It should say that the Hedgehog Engine is for graphics, and Havok is for physics. You know, games aren't automatically limited to one engine, and you can't prove Havok will only be used in demos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcbZxeUbGys&NR=1 ???????? -- DiscoDuck The Original  09:21, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Why did you put that video there? What is the point of that?

PC and Wii U confirmed??? I think not
I do not think it will come for the PC because Sega gave up on it long ago. And it won't come for the Wii U. I've even checked their website with that game and it says Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and Nintendo 3DS. Thats it, i'm sorry to say. Can someone pleease delete the information about the PC, because it is false.

"It has also been repeatedly hinted for the Wii U"

Do you people even read the trivia? it says that Sega have expressed their distaste in porting it to the Wii U and decided it would come to the 3DS for the Nintendo people. They obviously don't want to release a game 6-8 months after the release of the game do they? Can someone delete this information, because the Wii U isn't even out, and they are making the game for 3 consoles, not 5. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic-  -A Proud Sonic Fan  11:36, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

The point that Sega gave up on the PC is an opinion, no offense. There are references that state it will (look closely to the article) including a preorder. The Wii U info has already been deleted so... yeah.

The Master of War Games! Curiously Adventuring! TheWarGame 19:16, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Well, if you want to see the truth SEGA has...

here

then you might be wrong. If you can't get to the link, look at Sega's website. SEGA stuff is official. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  22:35, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Sega's website didn't say Sonic Heroes was for PC but it is. The Master of War Games! Curiously Adventuring! TheWarGame 20:55, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Red Rings AND Gold Rings?
Since when? I've heard about the Red Rings, but not the Gold ones. But I hope it's gold and not red, because red rings + 360 = no. Knuckleschaotix 14:26, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but it's true. Look Sonicyay2 14:35, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for rubbing it in. -_-

But what about these gold rings?

Knuckleschaotix 14:38, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Dunno. Maybe add a referance? Sonicyay2 14:43, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, don't ask me. I have no idea where this came from. Knuckleschaotix 14:45, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

The red rings were in Sonic Colours, and in each version, they both had different purposes when collecting them all(even though it was hard)

Gold Rings, Super Sonics are golden

Coincidence?

Wait until the game. Until then, if there is any more information on the game, don't do anything(not, just keep adding info when you people find it)

Pinkolol16, I love Sonic-  -A Proud Sonic Fan  03:08, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Aren't the normal rings golden? 71.146.138.91 00:54, July 20, 2011 (UTC)MetaRyan

There needs to be a source for this. And if there is one, I think they mean the five red rings in the levels and the normal golden rings. Why would they have both and why haven't they been seen in any gameplay videos if there are also collectable gold rings? Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure this is a misinterpratation. The Master of War Games! Curiously Adventuring! TheWarGame 20:46, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Stardust Speedway
Okay, here's the dilemma:

Today, Chemical Plant was confirmed, and the boss of it was confirmed to be the Metal Sonic race. This hints at Stardust Speedway. My question: should I make a page Stardust Speedway (Sonic Generations), or should I just leave it? Keep in mind that all the other hinted/leaked levels like Rooftop Run (Sonic Generations) have pages.... Knuckleschaotix 14:25, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

No. All you're going on is the fact that Metal Sonic's been confirmed.  Myself  <font color="Black">123  17:20, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Well, TSSZ did mention that he would be ''Sonic CD's boss. ''That probably means Stardst Speedway. I'll be keping my eyes peeled....

Extra Stages
Chemical Plant Zone was revealed, and Metal Sonic was revealed to be the boss of it, but in the stage Stardust Speedway. Then I read on a couple of articles that there would be possible boss fights with enemies that you fought in different stages, like I read for Crisis City, Silver would probably be the boss fight in Soleanna. Could this mean more past stages from other Sonic games will apear in the game besides the ones listed? But as boss fighting stages? Lightning the Hedgehog:  The Electricity Master  18:15, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

Who knows, the game's not even out yet! We just don't know at this point. But I want to wonder why people delete stages even when they've got offical images(which is quite strange...) Pinkolol16, I love Sonic-  -A Proud Sonic Fan  02:49, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Probably because they're either trying to make it difficult for us to keep track of the information, or because they're mad because the stages they wanted are probably not gonna be in the game. Lloyd the Cat "I hog that hedgehate!"  02:52, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Tough Luck for them. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic-  -A Proud Sonic Fan  03:23, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Sonic Heroes is a Dreamcast era game, not a modern game.
Classic refers to the 5th generation of video games, Dreamcast refers to the 6th, and Modern the 7th. Sonic Heroes was made in the 6th generation, and would have been for the Dreamcast if the Dreamcast wasn't retired so early. There are 3 Classic, 3 Dreamcast, and 3 Modern major zones. 71.146.138.91 00:50, July 20, 2011 (UTC)MetaRyan

This is true...-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 01:01, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

No, Sonic Heroes wasn't on the Dreamcast, therefore it makes absolutly no sense what-so-ever to have it as a Dreamcast era game.  Myself <font color="Black">123  12:12, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

It makes perfect sense, actually.

It doesn't have to be Dreamcast to be Dreamcast era. An "era" is a field of time, similar to "age" (e.g. "Information Age", "Stone Age"). If it's 6th gen, I'm sure it's Dreamcast era. Gamecube was running at the same time, so it, too, was the Dreamcast Era (Nintendo fans would call it "Gamecube Era").-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 04:44, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Akamia after looking here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_games and researching Sonic Heroes. Apparantly it was originally going to be Sonic Adventure 3 and on the Dreamcast (as she/he said) and the Dreamcast and Gamecube were released and had their highest points at around the same time.

The Master of War Games! Curiously Adventuring! TheWarGame 03:26, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not the most reliable source on the Internet, but still, that was from the start anyway(SAdven3 rumour) Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  06:30, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

True, the Dreamcast/Gamecube/PS2/Xbox were all in the same generation, but that dosen't Sonic Heroes will be in the same era, it's ridiculous to have an era dubbed "Dreamcast" if all the games aren't Dreamcast games.  Myself <font color="Black">123  16:26, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

True, but better than "Gamecube Era". I'm pretty sure they would rather refer to a Sega system than a Nintendo system.

The Master of War Games! Curiously Adventuring! TheWarGame 18:05, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Please, none of that makes sense. This is all speculation by fans based on the fact there are 9 stages and you're all just trying to make it evened out.

Sonic Heroes is a sequel to SA2, but it meant to be SA3 originally is a rumor. Sonic 06 may have had similar gameplay for SONIC, but not for Shadow, Silver, or any other characters. In fact, Tails was mixed with SA1 and Heroes and Rouse was mixed with SA2 and Heroes. Shadow was similar to Shadow The Hedgehog plus more. Blaze was a 3D version of Rush and Silver and Amy were completely new. It was like mixing multiple of the past games together. Sonic's gameplay was based on the fact this was this basis for the gameplay since SA1 anyways, as was the Advance series (with the exception of being in 2D due to being handheld). This means this game was not really THAT worthy of being suspected to be possibly SA3. However, it did have similarities to Unleashed. The Match Speed is a prototype for Sonic Boost. Sonic Unleashed was originally going to be SA3, and that is NOT a rumor. But it was considered a different title due to being too different. In other words, it WAS going to be SA3 but ended up NOT being. They've even said that it is possible they'd consider making it still if fans showed they really wanted it, hence the recent preaching.

My point is that SA3 does not currently exist and so Heroes is not part of the Adventure series. It does not fall under the name "Adventure Era" nor "Dreamcast era". If it were part of the same era it wouldn't be called "Dreamcast Era". If that were the case they'd be able to call it part of the Modern Era for being 3D, or part of the Classic Era for being more like the Classics only in 3D and being classic 3D Sonic games, since the word's meaning could easily be applied to the Adventure series by now. Or, one could suggest that SA1 is Classic and SA2 is Modern due to which half of the 20 years they were in. SA2 came out on the 10th anniversary making it the second half.

BUT, SEGA says there's 3 eras and the middle era is titled "DreamCast" or "Adventure", isolating SA1 and SA2 together. Heroes is "Modern". If it were part of this in-between era then it wouldn't be called "DreamCast" or "Adventure" era. Otherwise "Classic" would be "Genesis Era" and Modern Era would have to choose between one of the 3 7th gen consoles. Heroes, Shadow and Riders were all also on Xbox and PS2, so would that make them part of the Adventure series era as well due to being on Gamecube? I mean, the Adventure series weren't on PS2 or Xbox. But Heroes WAS. All of them were on Gamecube tho, but SA1 and SA2 originated on DreamCast. And they titled the era "DreamCast". Sa2 was the last DC game so it WAS the end of the "DreamCast era". You can't say it's too small for only having 2 games when there's only 3 games on the Classic Era, considering Sonic 3 & Knuckles a full game, which it technically is. If the DreamCast Era wasn't just for DreamCast it wouldn't be called that. They'd call it "Middle Era" or "Mid Era" or something.

Just for the heck of it, notice the tone of the franchise, the character personalities and designs have also dramatically changed from the Adventure series to Heroes. Especially Knuckles and Shadow's faces being reshaped, yet maintaining that shape-design throughout the games since. Knuckles' model may have changed over time, but overall still looks like Knuckles from Sonic Heroes but not from SA1 or SA2. The Promotional Artwork is also CGI ever since Sonic Heroes. Tails 2 Tails are also maintaining a specific shape since Heroes. Just throwing this out there.

-FBA

Spoilers?
Are there any sources for the Spoilers section? And if there are, then why aren't they announced under the regular Characters and Level sections? Robbynascar28 Chuff Chuff! 12:01, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

I would just like to clear something up
The latest trailer everyone's been talking about isn't a Sonic Generations trailer, it is a trailer for Sonic's 20th anniversary, therefore it is wrong to assume that any levels featured in said trailer will appear in Sonic Generations. The trailer is completley irrelevant to this game.  Myself <font color="Black">123  17:59, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think people thought it was a Sonic Generations trailer because it had Generations in the video. I know it doesn't have anything todo with the game, but that is what I think made people think that. Lightning the Hedgehog:  The Electricity Master  18:01, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the levels in the trailer shown are the levels in Sonic Generations.--58SlugDrones! 06:38, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, it kinda reminds me of the Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 2 trailer called "A look Back". In the trailer it showed clips from the first Harry Potter film and said the title, then some more clips before showing the logo of the second film followed by clips from the second film. Then the logo of the third film and some clips from the third film and so on. After it showed clips of the 7th film it said something about the conclusion and showed clips from the final film. This is similar to that, though I don't think it's really a trailer for the game just a celebrating vid.

But the reason people might relate it to Sonic Generations is because out of all the games included in Generations and all the stages from those games that made the cut for Generations, each game showed up in the vid and each stage did as well. They all showed about 2 or 3 stages, but 1 out of 2 or 3 of those stages were always one of the chosen levels in Generations. Sometimes they were even them MOST shown stage. Sonic 1 mostly showed GHZ, Sonic 2 mostly showed Chemical Plant, Sonic & Knuckles mostly showed Sky Sanctuary, Sonic Adventure showed Speed Highway, Sonic Adventure 2 mostly showed City Escape, and THEN it showed Modern Sonic and started continuing the patter from Heroes onward. (This is also a sign on where "Modern Sonic" and the "Modern Era" are introduced into the history, seemingly considering the Adventure series and era as part of the Classic Sonic side merely remastered for 3D I guess.)

-FBA

Death Egg (Sonic 3?)
In the Boss List, it claims that the boss Death Egg is from Sonic 3.

Most of these bosses are obvious as to which game they are from as they are the only option. Some of them we know what game they're from but not sure which area if they're fought multiple times (Shadow SA2)

However, Death Egg is in both Sonic 2 and Sonic 3.

In Sonic 3, Death Egg is a stage with a boss at the end where you fight a floating circular enemy with his own mini spiked tankes by changed gravity up and down over and over. Then chasing Eggman, you fight him in the giant Eggman robot by hitting his fingers, then dodging his laser and nose-flames while hitting the Master Emerald in his chest. Then chasing Eggman himsefl. Then Doomsday Zone starts and you chase him, redirect his missiles to himself and then chase his other Eggman robot. Yeah, it's pretty cool as he is such a persistent villain you basically fight him 6 times in a row.

HOWEVER, this is probably considered 3 seperate bosses. Death Egg Zone Boos. Death Egg Zone Final Boss (aka Sonic & Knuckles - Sonic: Final Boss) and Doomsday Zone. Now it'd be cool if Doomsday Zone were in Generations, and if somehow it was included in "Death Egg" even without using the word "Doomsday".

But, Sonic 2's "Death Egg Zone" is ONLY a boss where you fight Silver Sonic and the giant Eggman robot. It is possible this is the boss in Generations as the new Sonic comic cover showing Sally also shows Metal Sonic jumping Sonic while Sonic attacks Silver Sonic who we haven't seen since Metal and Silver Sonic were near each other in tubes in Eggman's base. This same comic had a small image of Sonic Generations on the corner of the front page.

Most likely this is the boss in Generations. Now, that'd be cool but the other D.E.Z. would've been cooler. But that's how it goes, especially when there's not even the slightest evidence to support one of them. lol

-FBA

Why This Page Should be Locked To Where Only Admins Can Edit
For those who want to edit the Sonic Generations page, please read on. You know about the leaks that were extracted from the demo on Sonic's Birthday, right? And you guys really want to add all of those leaks to the page.

But you can not add the information anywhere you like. All spoiler information will be under the section I made called "Spoilers". All of the leaked information will be there and nowhere else. No leaked information will be on character articles as well. Just under the "Spoilers" section of Sonic Generations and that is it.

Spoilers need a spoiler warning because not everybody wants to know leaked information about a game because they like waiting for information about a game they would like to buy. If you add spoilers without a spoiler warning then you will "spoil" the patient gamers because they will accidently see it. We do not want to spoil our readers, do we? So from preventing this from happening, I made a section a long time ago with the name "Spoilers" so that all spoilers will be under that section so that whoever wants to look away can look away and whoever wants to read it, can read it.

What if someone would say, "Oh, I don't go to SNN because they have spoilers everywhere and I accidently read them." Would you like that? Really, please stop it now for whoever is doing this. Honestly, now I think alot of people who do not like spoilers must have read this information from our site because this has been going on since June 23rd. It's really embarrassing.

I already made a whole blog with a punishment for a block, but since nothing has changed since, I will go more strict by suggesting that this page will be locked to where only admins can edit.

Thank you. And your opinions please?--58SlugDrones! 05:50, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

If this problem (people constantly putting spoiler information outside the spoilers secion) continues to occur and people keep flat-out ignoring warnings, then I say go right ahead and lock the page. It'd probably be best if we do so anyway, since this is such a high-profile title. Lloyd the Cat "I hog that hedgehate!"  05:58, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Finally! But I'll wait for others.--58SlugDrones! 06:00, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. This page should be locked if the problem persists.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 08:53, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

No. I disagree. Some non-admins want to edit but can't because of it being protected for admins only. Just no. Please don't. I can't edit on this page longer. IceSeason101 11:53, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Unregistered contributors have been troublesome for me since the page was created. I always have to correct them whether they're spoilers or not.--58SlugDrones! 05:44, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Leaked info is not a spoiler. A spoiler is something that spoils your enjoyment of a game. In any case, the rule on the wiki is and has always been that it is not edited for spoilers. It says so on the front page. -- Supermorff 18:18, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Supermorff, these leaks do spoil the enjoyment of a game. All characters, levels, bosses, pictures, icons, plot, cutscene names, all missions, the final boss fight, the main story etc. were all revealed in one demo. Definitely, all information in the demo spoils the enjoyment of the game.--Administrator • (Contact) 05:04, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Well I'm not sure I agree (particularly about characters and levels, which would be in the game's manual anyway), but that doesn't change the fact that the wiki isn't edited for spoilers. If you don't want to be spoiled, why are you going on the page for this game anyway? -- Supermorff 06:43, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

There is a certain limit for the number of spoilers one wants to handle. Maybe someone just heard of the game today, and just wanted to know the main overview of the game but accidently sees that the plot section has some spoilers in there, then that would be something the reader doesn't want to see. Which is why added a spoilers section so if you do not want to know anymore information on the game then don't. It's a safer way, especially for a big game like Sonic Generations. I made a whole blog about this, it appears no-one would listen without an explanation, they would just repeat the spoilers thrice on that page everyday. They could have atleast explained. I mean, I gave out my reason.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 06:50, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blogs are usually a bad place for announcements or explanations, because a lot of people just don't look at them. I very rarely look at them. Just saying. -- Supermorff 06:58, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Registered Users here blog more than they edit, actually.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 07:01, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I've found a better Sonic Generations 3DS image!
I've found a better quality 3DS boxart of SG on a site I found. I'm not sure what you guys say on editing it on the page, but I found a better quality one!

What I mean about poor quality is the boxart we've got now. Modern Sonic is not his normal blue, and the backround and himself look way too bright! Classic Sonic looks fine, but Modern looks too bright for himself. If you think this pic I found should be put on, then see it here.

If you think the image is good, then say for yourself here. I'm asking if I can put this image on because it's better quality then the one we have now.

Tell me. Should I?

Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  14:37, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Since no one has bothered to click the link, i'll put the pic up anyway!

The reason I'm not putting this on a blog post, is because of the fact that it is boxart and I really want to put it on the page. But what about the public, well, have your say on this section. I'll need 3 yes' before I put it on(or if anyone can even put it in that box. I can't!) Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...   I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  14:54, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Are you sure someone just didn't edit it?--58SlugDrones! 15:02, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Nope. Pic came up as I was looking at it. Not edited at all. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  15:04, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

What I mean is, I was surfing the site it came from normally, but when I saw it, I KNEW it was better than this one. Modern Sonic looks way too bright.

If there is anyone who can put pictures inside that infobox, in replacement and explain why the other one was bad, then please put this picture in. The pictures is good. I've seen it in it's full size.

It was the first boxart for the game, and the only one, according to the site.

Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  22:29, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Um, hello? Anyone going to put the image on the page?

Well, correction, an admin >:( Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...   I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  12:49, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see much of a difference, no offense or anything. The current one is from an official source anyway.

The Master of War Games! Curiously Adventuring! TheWarGame 03:09, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

But the current one has bad quality, don't you look at Modern Sonic? His blue is WAY too bright to be him. The picture I found has the perfect blue for Modern Sonic, and Classic Sonic too! The boxart looks way too bright as it is now. Modern Sonic's blue is so bright his eyes are practically glowing! And that's not what we want to see. My one has perfect quality and it's better too! My one had got better blue's than the one found by someone else. The picture I think is PERFECT FOR THE GAME!!!! You compare the two and I guarantee you my one will be of better quality.

And if the boxart does turn out to be what I've put there, then all of you will be wrong. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  09:57, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Come on
Of course they had to lock the page for admins only. We are or was the number one gaming wiki on wikia! But now, we won't be because of the page being locked. I mean, what if a non admin found true info on Sonic Generations? They can't add it because it's locked. Who's with me? IceSeason101 11:34, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I am with you. Seriously, I found boxart and I can't put it on because of this! TRUE BOXART!(3ds, i got a better one, and i can't put it on.

Really, that's my they invented an undo button and warnings were invented.

I've tried to tell people I've found official artwork, and they won't believe me.(i mean come on, modern sonic in the pciture in the page doesn't even look like him. Light blue? that's not ModSonic colour)

I'm going with IceSeason. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  12:40, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

And continuing, let's say(i'm using this as an example) found more plot. They wouldn't be able to edit it because of the admin only editing it thing.

Do we want to REPEL people from the wiki? Or ATTRACT them?

I found Boxart, and now, I can't put it on.

I think What IceSeason and I havec said is enough. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  12:46, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I just said one thing. IceSeason101 20:59, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

What is this "plot" thing you found?--58SlugDrones! 10:03, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

@58

I was using that as an example. I'm saying if they did find more, just if, they wouldn't be able to because of the lock. Same with my official artwork. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  10:14, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I see. As for Sonic's fur color, well we are only going to use the images SEGA has given to us. An adjusted color by a fan is not needed. And I do not mean to boast but I am one-step ahead of you guys in the plot (not all of you but) but I did not add the information because whatever I know is not confirmed, vague but most likely official but a few things are a bit puzzling right now.--58SlugDrones! 10:20, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think it was done by a fan. Look at Sega's website. The picture is exactly from there.

Here is the link in case you don't believe me.

Now you believe me? Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  10:32, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Am I supposed to be looking at the two Sonics at the bottom?--58SlugDrones! 10:39, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

No, you are supposed to be looking at the boxart on the page. To the right I think. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  10:46, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

The image SEGA provided for a large image download is the one on the page (alot more dull).--58SlugDrones! 10:49, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Well, because I live in a different country, it comes up different, like the one I found. The image I found came from a site which sourced it to Sega Australia's site(i think) and I can tell, because I have looked at it and it does have the one I found.

AND, if it does turn out(the actual game) to be like that, you'll all be wrong.

And the link I gave you, it probably directed you to your country's Sega website, which has the wrong boxart. What I found is on Sega's Aussie site and it's official.

Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  10:55, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I can see it, you're right but do you have a large image? And I do not live in any country SEGA has provided so far.--58SlugDrones! 11:01, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Yes. The image came full size. The link to the LARGE image is that one to the gaming site I gave you above.

I'll give it anyway. Here you go. That is the link to a LARGER(I like doing that, it professes BIG) image of the same thing

There is the image for your understanding. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  11:11, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

There, I will unlock the page for you so that only you can add the boxart. When you're done, I'll have to lock it again, sorry.--58SlugDrones! 11:25, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Only problem, I can only add it to the gallery because I don't know how to do that to the info box sorry...

I'll add it to the gallery. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  11:29, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Unlocked, you may now edit.--58SlugDrones! 11:31, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting Pinklol doing that. I also think that will be fair. Gotta go fast! "Sonic Boom!!"

No problem. But do not expect me to do this again.--58SlugDrones! 11:42, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Why is she taking so long? I am beginning to distrust her.--58SlugDrones! 11:45, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

No need to distrust me 58, computer is taking a long time to download image. I'm not making havoc. Absolute no need to distrust me. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  11:49, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I apologize. I have uploaded it for you. Just add it to the gallery.--58SlugDrones! 11:56, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I have just done so, 58. Weird thing is, when it's night(and it is here) the computer goes really slow. Thank you for helping me prove I found a picture from an official source.

See you round.

Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  12:05, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

It's no big deal.--58SlugDrones! 12:07, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I'm with IceSeason here. I believe I created this page. But that's not why. I'm thinking of leaving the Wiki now because this was the main page I edited here. >:( Knuckleschaotix 20:38, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Youy don't have to leave the wiki just because one page is not able to be edited. Just surf the wiki until you can find another page to make a small edit on, even if it's a small spelling mistake! Leaving the wiki just because one page is locked is kinda going over the top. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  22:09, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

This was the page that I got like 100 edits on. Let's just say that I won't b nearly as active.... Knuckleschaotix 22:13, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

It's not about edits, it's about helping make this place the No. 1 on Sonic info and a way to make sure we are was to lock this page from people making up nonsense, there's no "me" in community.  Myself  <font color="Black">123  22:21, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Locking the page not only protects it, but makes it harder to improve the page and make it no. 1 on Sonic info. It could be incomplete because people wouldn't bother to tell an admin about a tiny new peice of info or a spelling/grammar error. Only the admins can do that, thus diminishing the manpower for editing the page. Knuckleschaotix 22:25, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

True, but I think it's more important to prevent a page from inaccurate information that would otherwise be there for days on end, than not having a small piece of info on the page.  Myself  <font color="Black">123  22:35, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Point taken. I'm still against the page's lock, though. Same with Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 2's also. The users should be free to edit whatever they want on the Wiki. I hope you guys know what you're doing. Knuckleschaotix 22:38, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

We're all aware of what we're doing, but sometimes everyone can't be trusted. Could you imagine the chaos if, for example, every user and anon had admin privlidges? It would be sheer madness. Admins are users, users that can be trusted to be in charge of more buttons.  Myself  <font color="Black">123  22:48, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

That's true, but I'm pretty sure that even normally, every user and anon doesn't have admin priveledges. Knuckleschaotix 16:04, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

He's right. Look here:http: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN2ODzSbdtc&feature=player_embedded The Master of War Games! Curiously Adventuring! TheWarGame 19:40, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Egg Fighters, Possible appearence of EggPawn, revealed rating and Giant Mech hinted for Death Egg.
OMG. SEGA did surprised us after all. This is gonna be the bestest Sonic game SEGA will ever make. I can't wait to buy it. Oh and can you admins please put the North American rating from the game please? Cesar out. CesarTeamHYRO 19:58, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blocked?
I'm just wonderin', but why did this page get blocked so that nobody can edit it, but only view a source? What is the reason for it? Because there's a new trailer that has yet to be added to the page. Plus, if something new comes out, we can't edit it and say it on here. Lightning the Hedgehog:  The Electricity Master  03:22, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Unlocked
I am unlocking the page for users to edit. I do not trust you guys, most of you add information the wrong way in the wrong places which gets me upset. Don't repeat one piece of information thrice! And don't fill up the gallery with a house-full of images just so that you can increase your edits. And please, all spoilers need a spoiler warning. I am just doing this because you are complaining way too much now. Why couldn't you guys stop before I locked this page anyways? Your fault, not mines so quit complaining.

And thus, alot of information has been revealed today and yesterday, my internet is running really slow right now and so far I am the only admin who edits there. I am capable of keeping a page to myself, but not capable of doing it in a slow internet speed. Don't make me want to lock this page again, guys. Remember that.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 06:10, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Marble Garden comfirmed?
I visited the article and I found Marble Garden in the Classic Era levels list. Is that true or false ?General Hogan 20:18, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

So, Marble Garden is not comfirmed. Thanks to the one who have deleted this false information. 82.226.11.58 20:34, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Europe Age has changed
Just to let you know the game is not a PEGI:3 anymore its a PEGI:7 Check the Gamescon Sonic Generations EURPOE Trailer

Hey, you're right. The content must be slightly mature then. Oh boy... --58SlugDrones • (Contact) 16:43, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Not really. That means seven and up. That's just passed 1st grade if I remember correctly. The Master of War Games! Curiously Adventuring! TheWarGame 22:24, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Fan name - Classic and Modern?
Though SEGA rep's also call the past and present forms of the characters "Classic" and "Modern". I still suggest that this is just a fan title. The terms "Classic" and "Modern" will not likely be used anywhere in the game and most of the SEGA rep's are fans as well. So, any term with Classic and Modern besides the levels should be replaced with a lowercase "present form" and "past form". Your opinions please?--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 09:29, August 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm okay with using Classic and Modern, seeing as there is at least some justification in that Sega's representatives use the terms (as you said). The important thing is not to treat them as different characters. They are the same characters from different time periods, with the Classic/Modern names just to distinguish them when they appear together. -- Supermorff 09:40, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

(shrugs) I say use them interchangeably at the preference of the speaker, like with super forms.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 09:41, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

I see. But I think "past" and "present" sound more... relevant because "Classic" sounds like a name thus it makes it sounds like a separate character but "past form" does not sound like separate character.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 09:45, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

"Classic" and "past" are not the same thing. Same goes with "Modern" and "present". Well, since Genesjs is with me then this discussion is a 2 on 2.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 09:52, August 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Right, but the Classic/Modern names are used by Sega, but present/past are not. You're only assuming that the names won't be used in the game, but this seems unlikely since they will still need some way to distinguish between them. -- Supermorff 09:54, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Here's an idea: wait until the game comes out, then come to a decision about the naming issue based on information from the game itself.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 09:58, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

It would be odd if Sonic would call his past form 'Classic Sonic', won't it?--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 10:10, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, heh heh I was thinking of the same thing.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 10:15, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Tag-alongs?
I herd that there there will be tag-alongs, is that true?

If you mean co-op then yes.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 14:23, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

let me point out a few things
I just gotta ask this why does this page get locked so much? I don't care cause i don't add to the page BUT if i did I would be pretty miffed.And who gives a damn what classic and modern sonic is called? you guys and gals started it so why screw your readers over by changeing it? Not everybody is smart enough to figuere it out and you would just start crap for no reason.And while ya'll are creating problems i'm reviewing these trailers and old game footage i taped from past games and the 1st demo.I noticed that the motobug and chopper did'nt drop an animal and the G.U.N robots did'nt drop chaos drives.But with no chao gardens why have drives but why no animals?And the beginning of the Chemical plant zone copies the origanal to a point as does Green Hill zone.I will keep looking for new oddities and please reply i bashed alot of you and would enjoy seeing the feedback as ya'll fail at protecting your image.Eggman outDoctor Eggman is here 19:25, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

I don't have a clue what your talking about.  Myself <font color="Black">123  19:41, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

I am unlocking the page for users to edit. I do not trust you guys, most of you add information the wrong way in the wrong places which gets me upset. Don't repeat one piece of information thrice! And don't fill up the gallery with a house-full of images just so that you can increase your edits. And please, all spoilers need a spoiler warning. I am just doing this because you are complaining way too much now. Why couldn't you guys stop before I locked this page anyways? Your fault, not mines so quit complaining.

And thus, alot of information has been revealed today and yesterday, my internet is running really slow right now and so far I am the only admin who edits there. I am capable of keeping a page to myself, but not capable of doing it in a slow internet speed. Don't make me want to lock this page again, guys. Remember that.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 05:30, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

......uh 58.... did you copy your old post about unlocking this page?It seems very similar...eh oh well it don't matter what ever works.Ok i read that the beginning of the game starts out with a picnic....a picnic.....wow.....Ok other than that bit of lame news anything else?like whos doing the charecter themes or the games theme?what about the 2nd demo when is it coming out?? and has shadow been confirmed non-playable or is it just some noob who hates shadow?or voice actors?I'd say that roger smith will do it Sega is'nt about to change the voices again.And heres a question why do ya'll think Sega did'nt add any Shadow the hedgehog levels?Ok as alwas I appreciate replys and thank you 58 for unlocking the page for us regular ppl alright till next time Eggman out71.101.59.26 14:07, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I posted it again. Character and Game themes will be done by Cash Cash, Crush 40 and SEGA Sound Team. The singer for City Escape sung Modern Sonic's version of City Escape. The second demo will come out next month and the 3rd demo is coming out in October with two acts. Shadow will be voiced by Kirk Thornton. Shadow the Hedgehog levels will not appear in the game and Shadow will not be playable, he is a boss fight. And the story if not as light as you think it is! There are some surprises here and there!--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 14:23, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the info 58 I was hoping Crush 40 would do the music for this one...as for the story and it's lightness if it's as light as Colors I might as well shoot myself now.Ok ya'll have Shadows voice actor yes? then why have'nt you made a list of voice actors? or added the Cash Cash and Crush 40 will do the themes?And why hasn't that upcoming demo info been changed??? your kinda leavin us in the dark are'nt ya???As alwas I appreciate replys alright till next time Eggman outDoctor Eggman is here 23:14, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Whatever I have written are leaked/spoiler information besides the Cash Cash and Crush 40 information. I know alot of things in Sonic Generations that alot don't know, I was not aware of that, sorry. I am getting to know these leaks/rumors/spoilers because I do not have any system the game is on. I fear I will never be able to play it so I am spoiling myself extra stuff, characters, plot etc.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 14:48, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Ah I see...well if the themes are'nt leaked but confirmied then you should add that little bit of info.and if the rooftop run demo is confirmed than change it from a strong likelyhood to a confirmed like I said alot of people would like to know this stuff.Even the spoilers just add it to the spoiler section and leave it at that.And as foe your console problem Sony reduced the price on the PS3 to $250 I bet around Black friday someone will have it on sale.Or try Amazon.com thats where I got mine.as alwas i appreciate replys till next time Eggman outDoctor Eggman is here 19:05, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

I do not allow specualtions to articles. As for the rest, I am unsure about the themes. We'll have to wait for the list of singers and perhaps the soundtrack of the game.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 09:04, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ok then why have a spoiler section if you don't allow speculations? All that is speculation right? How do you know you can trust the guy who hacked the first demo?Ok another question...has all those charecters been confirmed non-playable?if not why are they there and not in the hinted section???I mean if theres gonna be a co-op thing those charecters except Shadow should be hinted yes?Eggman outDoctor Eggman is here 12:40, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Spoilers and speculations are different things. The guy who hacked the demo is a friend of mines. The list of characters are co-op missions and in mini-games. They are only playable once. Shadow is hinted... you are right there.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 17:51, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Well acctuially Shadow is a confirmed charecter I beleive it was Arron Webber who confirmed him.He just didn't specifiy whether he was playable or not.And as for the others if you can play as them there playable.Because Sega wound'nt only let you play as them once but multiple times because you can replay the missions and mini games.I suggest removeing all the non confirmed charecters such as the Chaotex bunch,Cream,Rouge,etc just to keep people from complaning.It's just a suggestion.Eggman out

Shadow has already been listed along with the rest of the characters.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 05:31, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

I have something of the utmost importance here:
That is all. It's either Emerald Coast or Wave Ocean. Either way, it's on the 3DS! Should I cfreate the page? And add it to other pages? Knuckleschaotix 14:27, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Emerald Coast. Yes, you can create the page.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 17:52, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Somebody beat me to it. -_- Knuckleschaotix 20:35, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

3DS
i read somewhere on the page that the 3DS version will have levles from the handheld games, i like all the levles revealed so far for the 3DS but there are some from non handheld games like: mushroom hill and emerald coast which i like, but what i would also like to see is:

Ice mountain zone from sonic advanced

Music plant from sonic advanced 2

Route 99 or sunset hill from sonc advanced 3

Dead line (Leaf storm would also be good)from sonic rush

Nocturne from sonic chronicles:TDB

Death yard or colusseum highway from sonic rivals

Mad gear from sonic 4

So my question is will there be any handheld levles? 14sonicstar

I would insted use Ocean Base or Cyber Track PhantoonDraygon781

Your right i forgot about cyber track, that would be better -14sonicstar

Stages 3DS
Green Hill Zone is said to be the only stage in bothg. I think I saw that Casino Night Zone will as well. Anyway, the the 3D gmaes only in tghe consolve versions I think, I think that the stages in the 3DS version will have those from the console games, Sonic Advance and Sonic Rush series. Might Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles be the smae game. Proove me wrong if you hear that stages from the 3D Console games will be appearing. Mr. Curious 08:47, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

I may get this along from the new 3ds mario games for xmas this year. I think that the level clear theme for the Classic Sonic will be the one from the Classic games. Mr. Curious 08:52, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

From what I've heard, the Time Eater seems to be targeting Sonic. I don't know which Sonic it is, but my best guess is the Modern Sonic. Like, if Classic Sonic is killed, injured, or something like that, Modern Sonic wouldn't even exist in the Present Time. So, if someone IS really targeted, it's gotta be Modern Sonic.

You heard wrong, that rumor has been proven false. I doubt that the villain's name is Time Eater as well.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 14:20, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

Picnic Pic
Is that picture real? The one where everyone is at the picnic? Because it looks like something out of GMod

I knew Sonic would have some kind of birthday party in Sonic Generations because of his anniversary. 76.119.67.2 21:02, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

It was found in a store in Japan.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 14:21, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

I just noticed something...
Ok we all remember Blaze "dieing" in Sonic 06 yes?Then why is she in that picnic pic???And why is'nt Silver with her?I know he is a boss but still it seems odd to me. Your thoughts on this matter Eggman outDoctor Eggman is here 22:04, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

That was an alternate timeline in Sonic 06. Sonic100jam 02:33, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

The Blaze in the game will be from Rush, whereas the Silver will be from Sonic 06.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 11:37, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Is it Truly Sonic's 20th birthday in the game?
I am in deep denial on that statement. The way I see it it is only Sonic's birthday, not 20th birthday. There are two reasons on that. One, in a Game reacter interview the interviewer asked Takashi Iizuka this, Sonic turns 20 this year in 2011. In our world he would be an adult, but he can never really grow up can he? Iizuka answar and I quote, No, he can't. Sonic has evolved in the past 20 years, but he is still the same age (which is 15) - in his next game and probably beyond that. And finally, in the Sonic Channel, in Sonic's profile his age is still 15 if it is Sonic's 20th birthday in the game, they would changed his age in the profile. The cutsene of Sonic's birthday is only a refrence of his 20th anniversary in the REAL WORLD, Sonic is NOT real so keep that in mind, because usually, fictonal characters never age and Sonic is almost certainly not an exception. Besides have any of you even see a 20 in the cake in the cutsene, because I did not, I only saw a silhouette of Sonic's head.

Sonic is not turning 20.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 14:23, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

(reply) - I certainly agree with you. Sonic is not turning 20 because Takashi Iizuka said so, whatever he says is ture, because he is the one who is producing the game. I believe the oldest Sonic will ever get is 17 and that might not happen either. The reason for that is because if Sonic where to turn into a adult, it would just be odd, and will NOT fit his pesonality either. So it is ONLY his birthday, NOT his 20th, like it or not.

I read the manga and there is no sign that the picnic they were having was a birthday party. I asked Roger Craig Smith and he said, "Wow! I really don't know! Not sure if there was a reason for the picnic. Anyday is a good day for picnic!" or something like that. I asked Mike Pollock and he said that he doesn't have the slightest idea. So I guess.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 14:44, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

(reply) - So I am gussing seince you asked the voice actors them selves and they don't know what the picnic was about, then they certainly did not say a 20 or 20th in any of the character's quotes or lines. But like I said before, it is quite likely that the picnic was a refrence of the 20th year of the franchise.

Sonic being 20 would not work, flat out. That why Sonic will never be 20 biographically.

True. It would be pretty funny if Eggman wished Sonic a Happy Birthday but was too shy about it.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 19:39, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

I would ask everyone this, if Sonic is turning 20 in the game then why didn't he age. I know Sonic is fictional but Sonic having the same youthful looks like in Sonic Colors but being 20 would be like Young Link in The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time still looking like a 10-year-old when he was 17 in the latter levels in the game. All that im really saying is that it would be quite strange.

All that I am seeing right now is that the picnic cutsene was vegue in terms of what it really was about. But it is definitely a refrence of the 20th year of the franchise. All that I am going to say is that we can't jump into conclusion the it is Sonic's 20th birthday because the person who said that was a critic. Nobody from SEGA or Sonic Team had said it is Sonic's 20th birthday, especially sience Iizuka-San said Sonic is never going to age, he is going to remain 15.

Must be fourth-wall breaking.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 06:48, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

(reply) It has to be.

You're really worried aren't you?--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 08:22, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

No not really. The worst case scenario is if the game is gliched-up like Sonic 06, that worries me more than this. The reason it seems that im worried is because I am getting heated up. When subjects like this gets heat up, I get heat up. It's like a virous you know.

Ok I am slightly worried, but I have good reasons for that. First of all, yes I do acknowledge that fact that Sonic is fictional but it is the fact that if Sonic turns 20, it would just be competely bizzar due to the fact that Sonic's personality consists of being a stand up guy with a attitude, which does not fit a 20-year-old. Characters that are in there 20s such as Liu Kang, Ryu, Samus, Zelda, etc are serious-minded which would never work for Sonic. So it is rather the consitentsy of the characters personality above every thing else but it is almost certainly not the case for Sonic when it comes of turning 20. But the reason I say im slightly worried because im a adult and I shouldn't be worried over a fictional character but this is because this is a very heated subject.

Ok, bare with me everyone. I compaired the characters looks from the picnic sene and there looks from the previous games and none of them look like they aged at all, not even Cream the Rabbit.

Go on google, and tipe Sonic Generations interview - Gamereactor UK. Iizuka-San spicifically said Sonic is not going to age, not even in the next Sonic game.