Forum:Chat feature?

Wikia has a feature that allows instantaneous chat. Until now I've been firmly against enabling it, because we've got enough unconstructive socialising and commenting on this wiki as it is. However, a new user named FreeSmudger recently commented on a blog saying that this site feels more like a blogging site than a wiki (a sad fact that I can only agree with) and recommended a chat feature as a way to direct people away from blogs. Genius! Here, in our laps, is a solution. But turning on the chat feature without dealing with blogs at the same time is just going to make things worse. Therefore I open it up to community discussion: would people like a chat feature to be enabled, with the proviso that there are to be no new non-Sonic blogs from now on? I vote yay. Who's with me? -- Supermorff 12:04, September 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * I say yay, and I'm glad that you agree with me. But if things get too out of hand we'll have no choice but to remove it Charlie 12:12, September 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yay. I've noticed that some conversations on blog posts never relate to the blog itself, so those conversations should be discussed in a "chat box". I'll have to give myself a [[File:Promotion image.jpg]] 12:59, September 2, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

Yay. Now the flood of Off-topic blogs can cease. But I have a few questions; : 1. What will happen if a user were to post an off-topic blog? Will it be subject to deletion or what? : 2. Will there be any exceptions to this rule? Such Sonic Sprite Comics are allowed or something? (I've stopped mine, this is for other still-running series) : 3.Will the same apply for off-topic comments? : 4. What will count as "Sonic"? Would news regarding IRL Sonic be considered on-topic, or are the blogs limited to the wiki in general? 13:02, September 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * In my opinion Admiral (if you don't mind, if you do, delete this post of mine): ::#This issue came up earlier where SlugDrones suggested that blogs should be Sonic-based only, and received a load of critical comments (A few Administrators disagreed with the suggestion as well). But in my opinion, I think a few non-Sonic related blog posts would be fine, just as long as there isn't an overhaul of them. ::#Sonic Sprite Comics should still be allowed for this wiki, because we have allowed users to edit user pages or blogs to show off their Sonic fan fiction, and sprite comics are also a type of fan fiction. ::#I did have an idea for this, but maybe it's a bit too strict. ::#I think that blogs regarding SEGA, fan-fiction, some off-topic (such as Disco's "What's your Desktop" blog) should be permitted for the wiki, while most off-topic and other stuff should be discussed in the chat box. ::

I'll have to give myself a 13:15, September 2, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

My personal feeling is that we should initially allow discussions about Sonic fandom, so sprite comics would be okay as long as they include Sonic sprites. We should allow blogs about Sonic, Sega, fandom (but not actual pieces of fanfiction) and the wiki (this wiki specifically, or Wikia or wikis in general). I think anything else would be off-topic and could be deleted (although I see no reason to punish users beyond deletion of the blog, because it's hardly a high crime). I'm not sure about off-topic comments. Which way do people lean on that, and why? -- Supermorff 13:45, September 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * I vote yay. I have always wanted this to happen, didn't know Supermorff would think of it as "genius", I thought he would think I am crazy if I ever told him. As for the non-Sonic blogs not being allowed, I came up with that but users were negative about my opinion. And especially, to such an extent that Kagi bursted in anger against the rule on my blog and my talk page (how ill-mannered, he should know better than to rub it on my face twice) whatever, he is forgiven. But I am still bringing this up: Blogs can only be Sonic related whereas the chat can be non-Sonic related if wished, or perhaps the other way round. If you think this is insane then please say it nicely.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 13:58, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

I strongly agree with 58, and if I may, I would like to convey one of my own worries as well. For those of us who have been to chatrooms (and/or SFW) know that there will always be a user, or a group of them who will definetly try to start verbally assaulting other users on the chat. We should prepare for this before opening the chat. I suggest that we have an admin/beaurecrat watching the chat (not participating in it) and if something happens, take action. I'm not saying we should have one person watching it 24/7, but maybe we could assign each admin to watch over the chat for a few hours at a time. I'm a little doubtful that this plan would work, because not all of us are here everyday, but for those of us who have a frequent use of the computer, I think we could work out a schedule for a certain number of admins. Say, 3 hrs. each. Feel free to agree/disagree. -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog I'm not a monkey! 21:02, September 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll be happy to volunteer as a Mod for the chatbox. AdmiralLevi.Signiture_B.gifAdmiralLevi._Salute_B.gif 21:30, September 2, 2011 (UTC) BTW, Admins can make non-admins in to chat mods to help. If you do make a chat could you make me one since it was my idea? But like I said before if too many bad things happen in it, we should just shut it down Charlie 21:14, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

LEVI: You're an admin so your automatically a chat mod. Charlie 21:36, September 2, 2011 (UTC) I vote for the chat, and the ability for admins to delete any non-Sonic related blogs. I fully agree with Supermorff about the conditions. I would like to say, though, that the chat mod timing might need to be shorter. I know that I can only go about two hours at a time staring at a computer screen, and if an emergency arises, it may be in the best interests for the chat if the times were shorter than 3 hour blocks. Werekitty119 04:52, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Supermorff, Genesjs and I come around here everyday. I think we can handle this. I am not sure about 3 hours though, I do other things on the internet besides SNN. And I am working on a project outside SNN.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 06:14, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Well, the 3 hours per user thing was just an example anyway. We can definetly shorten it. -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog I'm not a monkey! 10:35, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Alright.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 11:54, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

We need it! It will give the wiki a better look rather than having only, "this user commented this blog 12 seconds ago".... and as for the unrelated blogs, chat is the perfect place -- User:DiscoDuck

I say yay. I would really like to chat with some people here than just blogging. -- Cloudthehedgehog12 sez Ello Gov'ner! Happy 2011! 15:34, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Not much for the idea. The wiki already has some crazy people on it, and adding a chat box will make those crazy people say even crazier things, causing a riot, and eventually a ban. I don't think it's safe. It's easy and a great feature, but, at least for this wiki, I don't believe it's safe. Many of our users might get banned if it goes too far lol. I don't think it's a bad idea. But I don't think it's a good idea either. The idea of shortening the chat time with huge crowds, though, isn't a bad idea... --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher. ( Talk )( Recent finds and updates. ) 15:41, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Do we have crazy people here?--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 15:43, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

A few... don't want to name anyone or I might offend someone... --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher. ( Talk )( Recent finds and updates. ) 15:46, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Name please?--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 15:49, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

(*Fingers Crossed*) - User:DiscoDuck

Okay... I think we all know Jet50 and Neo/Jakethedude being some of the crazy ones. I really didn't want to say that. Even though they know they're considered some of the crazy or obnoxious ones... --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher. ( Talk )( Recent finds and updates. ) 15:51, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

I don't recall that... - User:DiscoDuck

As far as 'Sonic the Hedgehog's blogs, Chromia the Autobot's blogs, SalaComander's blog and some of Rainbowroad's blogs... Chat is needed - User:DiscoDuck

What about my blogs? Are you talking about my unrelated ones that I post practically every week or week and a half? I mostly post Sonic (and recently some blogs with Mario in them too) blogs. --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher. ( Talk )( Recent finds and updates. ) 16:00, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

There is no need to feel bad about it, Rainbow. It is completely normal to think like that. You've helped me, now I will keep these two names in mind while we're discussing.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 16:03, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Just throwing in my 2 cents, I think the chat thing is a good idea. It would make communicating much more stream lined, especially for Chrome users.CariconCommander 16:09, September 3, 2011 (UTC)