Talk:Sonic News Network/Archive 2

5 Months?!?!?!
Why has it been 5 months since the last edit?!?!?! HyperSonicBoom 22:19, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I think Sonic fans don't know about this wiki. Do you know how we could find some more people to edit here? Are you a member of any sonic forums where you could ask your friends to join in? Angela talk 01:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Just a quick tip: A search for "sonic wiki" on google in apr 2008 yields "Sonic News Network - 15:02

We now have a sister wiki, the Mobius Encyclopaedia!" -- not very informative :) also placing a link in "external links" in key wikipedia articles might help. -- 87.194.117.25 23:04, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm going to try to make this wiki better, wish me luck! Sacre Fi 23:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Good luck! :) Angela talk 03:25, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Let me help! I love Sonic 1 and 2! I have some music and have a lot of information. I first think that we should all use the debug mode cheat to map the levels. We can then get the music and put it here. I think that we CAN make a difference to this wiki! 16:48, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I call all the sonic history pages! i know everything about the older sonics! yay!
 * =D Yay for recruitment! P.S. You don't have a signature template for this wiki yet. ;) Sacre Fi 01:27, 24 January 2007 (UTC)


 * You can just sign with ~ instead. Angela talk 17:27, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * This is way late, but I guess Sacre got me to come from RS Wiki to over here. 18:04, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

wwddddddweww== Admins ==

Who are the Admins here? Will there be more added later? Also, if you are looking for something to do, look here 01:41, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I think the administrators have abandoned this wiki... someone should try to be one after a certain amount of edits. Sacre Fi 04:56, 24 January 2007 (UTC)hjuhjjkjuhhgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Template Problems
*Sigh* I think something's wrong with what we're doing with new templates... like Template:General CVG character, because they turn out fine on the template page, but when they're put elsewhere everything goes wrong. I don't mean to be a pain, but we need some advice... Sacre Fi 05:37, 28 ggggggggggggggggggwith my character template! If there was a temlpate making guide, it would help a whole lot! 19:43, 29 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Anyone know what's up with the References template? Just look at FFF's beloved E-123 (or the newly-ref'd Pir'Oth Ix); the references are numbered fine within the article, but it's all 1's when you actually get to the bottom. Wassup wid dat? (Molten Scandium 23:28, 15 January 2009 (UTC))

Note to Staff
We have voted on an admin on the admin page. Please check it! Thanks! Also, can anybody explain the above? 22:57, 2 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I've made 2 new admins. User:Splarka is a good person to ask about the template problems. Angela talk 12:05, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Im going to make this page look like Sonic Channel, but english
Sonic Channel may rule, but this wiki rules!

SNN, Some user threatened me with vandalism
SNN, block this user for threatening me with vandalism, i have been finding sources.

Big Website
This wiki is getting popular and bigger.

Please hurry up with the edits. ITs been 15 years and the articles are quite young.

Comments
I just want to remind everyone to please sign your comments by typing four tildes ( "~" ) at the end of your posts. Thanks. FerralMoonrender 00:19, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey hurry up and edit things faster you guys. We also needed a Featured article or something on the Main page.(Assaulthead 08:19, 1 November 2007 (UTC))

Yeah, on the bottom, I put a link to the featured article voting. I think that we actually need featured articles, now the people are making their own articles. 21:33, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Main Page design
Hullo! I'm Kirkburn, a Wikia Gaming Helper, and I have a suggestion to make regarding the Main Page. You may be interested in stealing some code from the Wikia Starter wiki which is the current new wiki base design. It makes content a bit easier to add and is easily expanded. Keep up the great work! Kirkburn (talk) 18:38, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


 * That sounds like a decent idea! I'll see what we can do about it! Thanks for the heads up! - 05:23, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * How's it look? FerralMoonrender 03:44, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Looks great! Kirkburn (talk) 18:06, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Images and Info Suggestions
Enzeru 18:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC) (teamARTAIL, Sonic Style, Sonic Art Archive, Sonic Cult, The Sonic Stadium)

Sonic Criticism
I, Enzeru 16:09, 26 March 2008 (UTC), think we should add a page on Sonic Criticism (don't have time). Includes Canonicity (Sally, Mario, Shuffle, G-Mel, Nazo, X, Elise, other side characters), Relationships (Sally, Blaze, Chris, Elise, Amy), Worlds (where/when Blaze comes from, Earth/Mobius), 4Kids, and Past/Present.

Why Sonic Voices From 4Kids Suck
The reason why Mike Pollock does well as Eggman is because he had clips from Deem Bristow and utilized them. The same goes for Emi Motoi as Amy in Sonic Shuffle, Ryan Drummond as Knuckles in Sonic Shuffle, and so on. Maybe we should just ask Jason Griffith to use Ryan's Sonic clips for reference instead of asking for Drummond back (not that he has a chance of coming back, sadly) or flaming Griffith.

Tiara B.
I've been writing an article about the character Tiara Boobowski from the canceled game, Sonic X-treme. I'm new here, so I'm not familiar with the templates, categories, etc. Can someone let me know which templates and categories I should add at the bottom of her page? ...and furthermore, which ones I should add her to? Stumpers 18:24, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Great job! Enzeru 18:39, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Stumpers 00:28, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Sonic Unleashed
I'm assuming everyone knows of it, right? Enzeru 18:39, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I definately know,I have it on PS2.?TDK  TDKiller 

Wikia Gaming IRC channel
Hullo! I am Kirkburn, your friendly local Wikia Gaming Helper!

You may be interested to know there is a Wikia gaming IRC channel, #wikia-gaming on chat.freenode.net, where you can hop on, ask for help from users of other gaming wikis, or offer your own experiences. If you are not familiar with IRC clients, you can access it from http://irc.wikia.com/gaming.

Different people may be on sporadically, but we organize weekly chats at a fixed time so we can get the most number of people online at the same time to ask and answer questions, or just to hang out. The admins of some of Wikia's biggest gaming wikis (e.g. WoW, Halo) often attend them. You can find the time for the next chat by following this link.

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me! Kirkburn (talk) 11:07, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Metal Shadic
MetalShadic

Dunno where best to present such topics nor if it's in my power to do something about it as a Member. Sorry.

Does it counts as Vandalism and should be noticed?

--Mystic Monkey 23:56, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Fanon characters are moved to a user's userspace, but in this case it's just an IP account... what to do... Stumpers 00:43, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, is it allowed for people to leave User links to there fan characters on the appropriate page? Like on my page, it would help with the explanation of the page.

Mystic Monkey 14:27, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

PS. Who should I discuss if I see any problems or should I just report the page through the tab?
 * One of the admins, FerralMoonrender, is always quick in this sort of thing. He's usually on at least once a week and took care of a similar problem about two weeks ago.  There are other people you can ask, too, of course, but FM has been who I run to with spam/vandalism/etc. Stumpers 00:31, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

---Featured article we should lower the time limit an article is featured, this one has been featured for about 5 or so months.

Im in Sonic Rush 3?
I sent a report on this topic But just to know, no, Mystic Monkey is not appearing in any Sonic games.

However I got a message from the original person who started the topic and edited my profile abit, He thought my userpage was an article.

Besides Sonic Rush 3, how come unregesterd guests get to edit users accounts? Mystic Monkey 11:12, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * They're not supposed to, but there is technically nothing stopping them, you just have to revert any changes they make, and, if it becomes a real problem, leave a message on their talk page and warn an admin (such as myself), who can protect pages from editing by unregistered users. ~ FerralMoonrender 10:48, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Main page layout and monaco skin
Hi all, your friendly local Wikia Gaming helper here!

I've been working on a new main page layout. Hopefully you have read about the skin and ad changes at Wikia's New Style on Central Wikia. If not, I hope you'll have a look.

One of the changes is a block of two ads on each main page. It's possible that they won't always show up, but to ensure your main page continues to work properly when they do, you need to update your main page column formatting code with new column tags.

I have drafted a main page using the new tags on User:Kirkburn/Dev which I hope you can take a look at - feel free to edit it of course. The main change to the layout is the fixed width of the right column. This still allows a lot of customisation - for example see these main pages - w:c:muppet, w:c:wowwiki, w:c:ffxi. If you encounter any problems with the new tags, please let me know. The new design also has a section for contents links - this should really be filled out to give visitors a sense of what you cover and quick links to the important stuff. I will look at filling in a few.

You also need to consider the move to Monaco skin, and whether you want to customise the skin for this wiki. For examples of customisation, see Memory Alpha, Millitary Wikia, Rappelz or even (if you really want to see what can be done) UK Transport Wikia.

Or, you can choose one of the defaults. Please let me know what you prefer!

Thanks, Kirkburn (talk) 12:26, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I've updated the draft with links to some of the main articles - it could probably be expanded/improved with someone with better knowledge of what's popular and useful. Regarding the poll, I realise that goes off the screen - there's a fairly easy tweak to the CSS that will fix it for live. I'd love to get the new layout in before next week - any feedback for it? Kirkburn (talk) 11:42, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Can the header ("Welcome to the Sonic News Network", etc.) go all the way across the top? I think that would make it look a lot better. If you want my honest opinion, (and please don't take this personally,) i think it looks awful compared to our current main page (and our current main page took me quite a while to design, too!) I'm annoyed about being forced to switch to Monaco in general, (I've always hated the Monaco skin,) but if we have to switch, I guess we have to. I'll work on it over the weekend, and I do appreciate and thank you for your help. ~ FerralMoonrender 08:01, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I see now that it can't, because that would interfere with the ads (which look atrocious, by the way.) Oh well, at least the ads will fill the awkward whitespace. ~ FerralMoonrender 08:08, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The reason for that is that ad buyers like to have joined-up ads, and it also means the ads aren't "within" the content as much. I do understand the frustration, but there's still a lot you can do with it. Regarding the skin, it mainly affects anon visitors - you can still choose to browse on monobook if you wish :) Kirkburn (talk) 12:25, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Any news, or particular way the design could be improved? I want to make the transition as smooth as possible. (I made the old gamingstarter and current starter layouts - so it's not as if I'm not familiar with the design :P )
 * I should also mention, for logged-in users, the only ads you will see are on the main page. The reason we double-up on ads there is because ad buyers really like that spot, and pay better for it - by having more there, it means we can have less elsewhere. Kirkburn (talk) 12:44, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

I have made a few more tweaks, fixed the poll, and put it live. Please feel free to tweak it. As for the skin, Monaco Sapphire seems to fit well with the site. Is it okay as-is, or would you like any customizations? Kirkburn (talk) 18:13, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


 * As there have been no objections, I have switched the skin. Kirkburn (talk) 23:16, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Can't edit main page, and someone make this correction?
I noticed the main page, has been protected, which is fine and dandy. I was just wondering if someone could correct the information about Mobius Encyclopaedia where it says it currently has "145 articles" and correct it to be "400 articles". Thanks for your time. - Dimitri the Echidna 22:33, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Update, Mobius Encyclopaedia is up to 500 articles. If someone could update that for me, it'd be awesome. - Dimitri the Echidna 20:42, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

R.E The Wikia gaming section at the bottom of the main page
can an admin edit it, so it includes, Sega and Smashwiki and any other related Wikia wiki's

-- 22:43, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

New here
Hi, I'm new here. I'm from The Super Mario Wiki. Anyways, If you guys want some inside info, ask Chaosninji, he's Pete Capella's cousin. Now, if you excuse me, I'm checking out the Chatroom.-KP Blue 18:14, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

New Character Template Idea
Hey all, I just wanted to throw a new idea out there for templates containing character lists. The main one is getting very overwhelming with the vast amount of characters, and is growing with every day. So, my plan is to change it Template:Recurring Game Characters, while characters who were in one game only (Excluding cameos), will be placed in a template for characters from that specific game, much like how I did here. Games with sequels would share the same template. For example: Template:Sonic Riders Characters. I also propose something similar for the comics, and shows, but, going by arc, instead of game. What's everyone's opinions on my proposal? Skeletal '''SLJCOAAATR Soul 22:16, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it's a good idea. The old one is getting too big and crowed. Unknown the Hedgehog 22:53, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * ...Anyone else...? Skeletal '''SLJCOAAATR Soul 19:49, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

SLJ's Goals

 * Merge game plot info from character articles, to game articles. (Example: E-123 Omega)
 * Remove excess/un-needed images from articles.
 * Shorten reationship sections in character articles. One-time relations/ver minor relations need to be cut down very much, and have only the vital parts remain, or be completely removed. (Example: Amy Rose)
 * (See above

I hope you all see eye to eye with me, and agreewith my ideas to improve/neaten up a bit more. I wanted to place this here before I changed anything,so that you could all place your ideas/opinions. Thank you. Skeletal '''SLJCOAAATR Soul 19:49, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Regarding your wanting to remove info from the 'Relationships' sections, I can understand the arguments for conciseness, and that this is not meant to be a collection of every scrap of info about the kitchen sink, but if we can have more specific info, I don't see any reason not to do so. What would you think of having separate pages, or better yet, subpages, for more specific info (ex. Amy Rose/Relationships) or do you have a different idea? ~ FerralMoonrender 23:22, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * How about a page for relationships in general?E123Brawler 01:07, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that would just be worse. A subpage for relationships is just moving the mess from one place to another. All we need to do is trim it down a bit.
 * Why do we need to merge the plot content? It's already in the articles. And readers should be able to know the character's role in a certain game without having to go back and forth between articles.Fair field fencer F F <font color="#FF2400">F  09:07, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I think we should keep them all in the characters articles, just, trim it down to just the vital stuff.
 * As for the game roles, that's part of the reason the Wiki articles were merged. We just don't need that. A quick summerization of their roles in each continuity, but, don't go too much in-depth. Save that for each specific games article. <font color="#7CFC00">Skeletal '''<font color="#FFFF00">SLJCOAAATR <font color="#800080">Soul 23:49, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Scourge The Hedgehog
The Main page is missing Scourge The Hedgehog in the Villians Section.
 * It's just for the major game characters. Scourge isn't even that important. <font color="#7CFC00">Skeletal '''<font color="#FFFF00">SLJCOAAATR <font color="#800080">Soul
 * There's more useless villains there too.Metal Knuckles isn't important.He's only in 1 game,right,Sonic R?<font color="Red">TDK  <font color="Yellow">TDKiller 

Fanart
I my opinion, fanart images here, on SNN aren't serving any relevance, and should be deleted. What do you, the Sonic News Network community, think about the matter? <font color="#BF00FF">LORD  <font color="#CCFF00">SLJCOAAATR  <font color="#FFEF00">Admin 21:42, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I think fan-art should only be for people's user look-up. Fan art wouldn't be informative for most, being as anyone can add stuff like different colors and anything else that would cause many rumors, like "OMG! Sonic is really fat!" or "HEY! Shadow's stripes are really blue!" or any other nonsense. Sonic Fan Fiction is also pointless on a Sonic Wiki, due to the fact that some Sonic Fan stuff may serve no relation to Sonic at all. --Nickno 22:13, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Nick, by user look-up, I assume you mean userspace? As I'm fine with that. It's just, I don't have the time to go through EVERY bit of fanart, and check to see if it's even being used at all... <font color="#BF00FF">LORD  <font color="#CCFF00">SLJCOAAATR  <font color="#FFEF00">Admin 22:30, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with SLJ in theory, but might widespread deletion of fanon creations alienate some editors who contribute useful articles as well? Wouldn't the wiki be better served by someone making one canon article and one fanon article than it would by someone who makes no articles at all? (Molten Scandium 22:24, 13 January 2009 (UTC))
 * That's fine, and dandy, Molten. If you see a 'fanon' article, look at the page's 'History'. If there's pretty much been one solid editor for it, select 'Move'. Type in User:(Insert users name here, not this)/(Name of article, not this.)
 * Make sure you don't forget the '/'! <font color="#BF00FF">LORD  <font color="#CCFF00">SLJCOAAATR  <font color="#FFEF00">Admin 22:30, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Oops. Yeah, I meant userspace. Anyways, I really think fan art shouldn't be on this wiki at all. I was thinking at another one's point of view. I mean really, The SONIC Wiki should be about, umm, oh yeah, SONIC ! But, I guess there will always BE Sonic Fan stuff on here. Also, I think SLJ's theory of moving fan pages by one person is good. If someone makes their own Sonic character, then they should have it on their userspace. It makes perfect sense. --Nickno 22:47, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

←SLJ, people have been putting fanart on here for a while. Let's just leave it. If it isn't broken, don't fix it. Y'know? Having a conversation between a small group of editors and then deleting all these images without telling anybody about it, is exactly the same injustice we had on Wikipedia with that huge merge.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  23:35, 13 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, this came at an opportune time. With reference to what I've just done with Scrap Brain Zone. While I was rewriting and re=formatting that article I was actually thinking a nice piece of fanart wouldn't go amiss. And I think it looks better the way it is than if you take it out. 'Cos you see, it is relevant where I've stuck it.

(Molten Scandium 01:32, 14 January 2009 (UTC))
 * Fanart can't be used in articles because it doesn't depict the article's subject properly. You're treating this like I was with information I saw as relevant on Wikipedia. But there's just one tiny flaw in that argument. All the information I wanted to keep was official, while the fanart you want to put in articles is not.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  10:21, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I think the main priority with fanart is simply leave it were it is and remove any that makes its way into article-space. That way, everyone wins.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  10:33, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Fanart can't be used in articles because it doesn't depict the article's subject properly. - Good point, well made. In which case I concur. (Molten Scandium 11:19, 14 January 2009 (UTC))
 * T'whatever suits yo boat, Triple. Looks like we'll just keep it out of mainspace. Any other opinions? <font color="#BF00FF">LORD  <font color="#CCFF00">SLJCOAAATR  <font color="#FFEF00">Admin 20:21, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, in my honest opinion, 99% of fanrt is crap, both in appearance and in design. This is a wiki, with no need for fancruft. And even if fanart is limited, as it has been as of late, people will still post it. It's better just to ban it altogether, but even then, it likely won't solve anything.<font color="Red">E123 <font color="Black">Brawler  <font color="Red">Ω  01:01, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, because it'll still get uploaded. Users on this wiki have every right to put whatever information about themselves on their userpages. I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to put fanart there as well.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  11:55, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Fanart should be restricted to userpages and connected pages (IE. userpage/something), outside the main space. In some cases though, where it's impossible for an original image and a fan made image is as close as possible to the needed image, then that should be passable. Flashfire212 09:27, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No it shouldn't. This website deals with official information. The images in the articles should be official too.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  11:55, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Real image, or no image at all. <font color="#BF00FF">LORD  <font color="#CCFF00">SLJCOAAATR  <font color="#FFEF00">Admin 20:31, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I mean that fanart can be useful. They use Fanart on the Final Fantasy wiki to great effect. Why can't they use it here for improved images of badniks if the image just plain sucks? Flashfire212 00:11, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

You have a very good point there, Flashfire212.-It&#39;s-a me, KP Blue!! Wish me luck in the final WST

Thank you! Flashfire212 00:52, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Like I've alreadt stated, we deal with official info in articles so we should deal with official images as well. Those guys at the Final Fantasy wiki think it's a good idea, but I say different for numerous reasons. One of those reasons is fanart can never be trusted to be 100% accurate which is what we want our articles to be. Take fanart of E-123 Omega for example. Every piece of artwork of him I've seen has not been completely accurate. Most of the time they give him two Omega symbols when he usually has one. The few artists that actually manage to avoid that mistake usually make others. Like the images quality isn't good enough. Like the artist sowia. He's always avoided that mistake but he always draws things in pencil so the quality isn't good enough. And he's drawn pictures of Team Dark at Christmas or on holiday at the seaside. If somebody comes across this image after seeing that sowia drew an image of Omega and it's on his article, the user might think "Am I supposed to think because those pieces of fanart with Team Dark at the seaside are official because they used sowia's other fanart on a wiki? Maybe." When the answer is actually no.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  10:58, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

I support fan art. I Believe that Fan art for mainspace articles should only be aprooved by admins and higher mods, but still be allowed to be uploaded for Userpage uses like my pictures on my userpages. You won't find them anywhere else. Still if uploading fan art on SNN is a problem to the server or however it works then why not a seperate method of uploading that works? Eitherway it falls in my support for (admin aprooved) fan articles can be allowed on SNN. Incidentally fan art can also be used for mainspace articles if the picture is accurate. for example in the Mighty the Armadillo article we had a picture from Chris Supernerd until replaced by a picture from Archie. Point is at least some fan art should be allowed in Mainspace while OK for Userpages unless it is causing a technical problem with the server that holds SNN images. Also take into notice that SNN if a fan project itself and not made by Sega or Sonic Team--Mystic Monkey 22:20, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah. I remember Chris' 3D Mighty. But, as FFF has stated, there's some sort of mistake, and could easily fool fans. Back when Mighty had on article on Wikipedia, and that image was used, I thought that it meant Mighty was in a 3D game, and went crazy trying to find him. Then I realised it was photoshopped off Sonic's Shadow art. Same for Tikal's nex-gen art, but, with Amy. Point is, fanart is completely irrelevant. <font color="#BF00FF">LORD  <font color="#CCFF00">SLJCOAAATR  <font color="#FFEF00">Admin 22:40, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, if irrelevent on Mainspace then so be it, perhaps selected fan artist SNN trust to provide pictures for certain articles but if in general fanart is not allowed on Mainspace then I atleast hope it be OK for userpages. I know I said I support aprooved fan articles but lets talk about 'now' than future matters. I have fan art on my userpage thats to show who my fan char is, be problem if by no fan art, it includes Userpage pictures.--Mystic Monkey 23:31, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that Fan art should only be used for characters for which there are limited images of, such as Mephiles or Chip who only appear once and don't even have Sonic Channel bios.
 * No. The fanart should stick to userpages and nothing more. There are loads of reasons why. Show me any simple fanart image and I'll put up a good case why it shouldn't be in an article.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  20:00, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Not minding whether Mainspce or not, What if it's volunteered and SNN approved fan art as long as it's all accurate? Though Id be satisfied if fanart be allowed on Userpages.--Mystic Monkey 03:27, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No. I doubt it would be 100% accurate. And besides, the articles deal with official info, the images should be official too.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  08:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * True, agree with you there. Problem is getting the official images even if the articles about a rare character. Closest I believe for Mighty would be from Knuckles' Chaotix... I think, I don't own the original copy with manual.--Mystic Monkey 13:45, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You mean like this? <font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  13:47, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yah thats the one. *Checks the Mighty link again* Well was sure it wasn't there last time I checked. Point is that though we have pictures of Archie sonic characters, it's best to provide them with pictures from alternate selves like games etc.--Mystic Monkey 14:56, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * For that we need pictures from the games and not fanart. just wanted to get that straight.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  14:59, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

In-Universe / Out-Universe writing style
As my beady eye catches the glorious updated front page and ol' Meatbag-hating Omega, I also notice the starting phraseology: "E-123 Omega is a fictional robot robot from the Sonic the Hedgehog video game universe..."'

I.e. not written in an in-universe style (circa my recent Solaris Project page). I'm wondering, before I go on writing more articles, if this is accepted best practice? I don't particularly WANT to have to qualify all my articles with "This is a fictional zone / robot / character" at the start, and I don't think articles on the Sonic wiki require this kind of qualification, given that it's... well, it's not Wikipedia. It isn't supposed to contain a wealth of information on IRL things, so no-one who's going to be reading it is going require the opening "This is fictional" discalimer tag.

Molten Scandium 17:16, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * This is 100% optional, my friend.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  17:56, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Okays! ^_^ (Molten Scandium 18:01, 18 January 2009 (UTC))
 * Yeup, you're safe. <font color="#BF00FF">LORD  <font color="#CCFF00">SLJCOAAATR  <font color="#FFEF00">Admin 22:43, 18 January 2009 (UTC)