User talk:Supermorff

A query I have
Hello Supermorff,

I've been informed from Kagimizu that I should seek a mod about a query I have instead of actually trying to edit the articles themselves so I simply chose you out of random because I can't seem to find anyone in charge of this wiki as a whole admin.

Anyways, this topic is about the trivia sections on this site. I've been here at SNN for some time (I believe since June) and think this Sonic wiki is a good idea. A place where every fan can input info they find. I come to this site often to get info and listings. It's all good except for one section: trivia. When I look at the trivia sections, it's a complete mess. There is information in those sections on almost every page with trivia that should not belong. Some of them are fan speculations, others are hypothesis and guesses, and some are just dumb and pointless. At this time, I thought someone was not taking care of this and all this info was inputted by someone who had no idea what they were doing or what belong in the article or not. So I decided to edit them myself and clean up the trivia sections that had information not necessary. Well to my surprise, they kept reappearing. Every page I went, the info kept popping up. At first I thought it was some stubborn user but then it turned out it was none other than Kagimizu, a mod. It would be understandable if it was some user who did not know how to input info into a trivia section but if a mod approves of such info, then we got a problem here.

I'm a fan of the trivia sections. I love them because you get even more in depth info from the subject in question that you would not learn formally. But when I come to SNN, I am displeased to learn that almost anything is put into the trivia sections. It's as if no one knows how to do a trivia section properly and assume anything can be put in.

A trivia section is a section of an article where info that cannot be placed on the main article is placed on it's own section. This info is not important enough to be a part of the main section but still useful enough to be known so it should not be omitted. The information that goes into a trivia section adds and expands the article and gives more insight, knowledge, and description to the subject. Wikipedia's guidelines for trivia state that it's info that can not fit anywhere and the editor should try to look for a place to put it in. In other words, trivia is the last thing that should be worked on because you want to search for a place to fit the info on the article and add to it. If it can't be added, then it's considered trivial and thus, goes into it's own section.

But this does not apply to SNN. When I see an trivia section, I am seeing information that is quiet useless to know about such as comparing one character to another. I don't understand why I need to know about a trait that is more coincidental than it is about the development of the character. If one character has a trait that is similar to another, such as Blaze being similar to Knuckles in the fact that they are guardians of certain emeralds, then you must ask yourself "Why is this important to the article?" In the example I showed, how does that information help the Blaze article expand more and give insight to her. If it was stated by a employee at Sega that they got inspiration from Knuckles when modeling Blaze, than that would be considered trivia since you would not be able to fit it into the article itself but is important to the understanding of Blaze's development. But if it's just a coincidence that Blaze so happens to be like Knuckles in only that they share that trait and there is nothing to back up that they both share such a common feature besides it being a coincidence, than that is not trivia because it does not help the expand the article and it's pretty much just an observation someone made.

There are many common mistakes that are added to the trivia sections. Others being fan speculations, good obsevations that are not informative enough to warrant research, what people "think" might be, and stuff that is not informative at all and are just comments. These may be interesting to know but when I read them, they didn't add to the article I was reading and didn't help my research. It felt like I was reading a persons comment rather than an excerpt of the subject. If the item doesn't give you applied knowledge, it should not be included.

I believe that the trivia sections need a serious clean up. If a mod approves it, then that means that no one here knows how trivia should be done. Serious guidelines should be done for trivia and what it is, what should go in it, and so on. The other info is not important to be warranted as research. Though I have thought about why a mod would approve of it, I come to the conclusion that they consider it important to know. I came to this because I remember I edited out a bad trivia item when I was editing articles. When it was brought back though, that item was not. So there is some attention being put to the trivia sections but no real guideline. That is why I propose there be a new section: miscellaneous. Just what it means, anything and everything else that doesn't even fit in trivia. While trivia SHOULD still cover the article's items that are not important to be in the article itself but still important enough to be known, miscellaneous is just information that is not really important to know but have been observed and might be of interest one way or another. Observations that have bee noted like comparing one character to another (especially when the other character is not even from Sega) is not really trivia but can be put into miscellaneous. I think it would clean up the trivia section and make it more neat.

So that is my post. Sorry if it's huge but it should show you that I am serious about the trivia sections. I love them and hate to see this wiki mishandle them just because people don't understand what trivia means. Just because trivia means info that cannot be inserted into the main article, it does not mean ANYTHING can be placed under it. It should still contain information that adds to the article in a small way but gives you a bit more information about the subject that is necessary to know about. Anything that is simply observed or coincidences are not trivia unless it is backed up by a source of information that is not hearsay or guessing. If you want to have that information, then a good idea would be to make a separate section for them. This will help keep the article in order so when you get to the trivia section, it won't be a jumble mess and you will be able to tell what's actual fact and what is a possibility. --TKGB 07:27, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well I'm glad that you agree and was surprised to know that someone else has a concern about it. But that still doesn't solve anything. Isn't there anything that can be done about this? Simply editing it won't do since someone will just end up undoing it.--TKGB 00:28, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Actually, that's not entirely true. If we simply keep an eye on the articles and remove uneeded info, that should really clean up the Trivia.--Kagi mizu -Seeya  'round ~ 00:36, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well that would be ideal except that people don't understand what trivia is here. There is no guideline for that in this wiki and people just keep posting items unrelated to being trivia and it keeps being approved. So when you say "uneeded", what does that mean here? That's why I'm proposing two sections. That would be ideal to keep stuff that is still revelant to the subject and info that is are just hypothesis that people have (i.e. "...because of this, it is believed that...").--TKGB 00:47, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Well, Trivia already has its own "section" on pages, but seperate pages is too far. The way I see it, if the trivia is notable and relevant, it's fine by me. For example, some new trivia that was added to Amy's page was that "Amy is currently the only female hedgehog in the games". Stuff like that seems reasonable to me.--Kagi mizu -Seeya  'round ~ 00:52, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * See, that kind of information is not trivia. Firstly, what I suggested was not a new page but a new category for this kind of thing. Second, I don't think you understand the meaning of trivia. As I've said on the original long post I made for Supermorff, trivia is information that aids the article. It helps expand the article on knowledge about the subject. Don't you think that pointing out that Amy is the only female hedgehog is too loose to be considered helpful. If you approve of that, how about "Amy is currently the only pink female character". How about "Amy is currently the only character who wields a hammer". Or "Amy is currently the only character that was kidnapped by Metal Sonic" and "Amy is currently the only hedgehog whose design has changed drastically"? You have to ask yourself if the information is helpful in research and development of the character both ingame and real world, not just observations.

If you still can't understand what I mean, consider another subject. Let me use English as an example. Look at this site:

http://www.sentex.net/~ajy/facts/words.html

The site contains many information that can be considered trivia. So by your approval, one could put "As of today, the letter Y is the only one that can be used as both a vowel and a consonant." Yeah, thats nice but it's pretty obvious that most people know about it so it doesn't need to be written down. I hope you understand what I mean. --TKGB 06:13, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

In my books, if you have several strings of trivia related to each other, then those need to be clumped together to form a new section, as was the case with Silver when I first came here. Trivia is my biggest crib with this wikia and I'm a reglaur visitor here. I raised this issue recently, because Silver's trivia section was massive. I listed elsewhere several points and problems with trivia. In the end it comes down to this: Can it fit elsewhere on the page? If yes, then it doesn't belong in trivia. If not, then it belongs in trivia.

As a experience wikia peep, this wikia can be off putting at times, but I come here because I have long term issues with wikipedia (used to be a wikipedian until 2 years ago or so). At the very least, what someone needs to do is look at the largest section on the page other then trivia (not including galleries) and ask "Is the trivia section bigger then this?". If yes, something needs to be done ASAP, as I had to do with Silver's page. Regardless, I'm happy to see it finally being discussed, but there seems to be a problem with controlling it. If you have guidelines for trivia, that would help, if not, perhaps its time something was done. One-Winged Hawk 15:16, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Re: User masthead
If you use Firefox, then Firebug is a very useful tool for troubleshooting css code used on the Monaco skin. JoePlay ( talk ) 19:57, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Sir Frances Charles. His full name was revealed in SatAM. Trust me, I wouldn't lie. Watch SatAm to comfirm my sources though I can't remember which episode. Sonic &amp; Scrab  Master

== Kagi mizu -Seeya 'round ~ ==

Ah, no. I haven't decided this on my own; the majority of the wiki is in favor of this as well. As for Monaco, Monobook, and Vector; it is indeed possible for us to have those. A lot has happened while you were gone, but to sum it up, Nero's father, the owner of a company with a hosting site, will be migrating a majority of the Sonic wikis, as well as Non-Sonic wikis. This migration could be better compared to "cloning", as Nero's dad will be able to copy every single scrap of data, including ranks, history, and contributions, and place it on an empty "HuskWiki", basically perfectly cloning the SNN, even including Monaco. With this, the wikis don't have to deal with advertizement, all data is maintained, and with the wiki out from under Wikia's thumb, creative freedom with the wiki belongs to the community of the wiki alone. Unfortunately, since we are not paying clients, the wikis have currently been put on the backburner while Nero's dad works with a paying client, hence why we haven't been moved yet. I hope that clears everything up for you.--Kagi mizu -Seeya 'round 19:55, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

(eyes spinning) Okay, hosting is free and as far as I can tell, it's permanent. The website is 12pointdeisgn.com I believe. The reason he's the best bet is because every scrap of our data will be copied so we don't have to start from scratch in any sense, it's entirely free, and we don't have to worry about advertizements. He's said that we can have any wikis we want moved, so I assume the servers can handle it. I'm certain that we don't have to worry about dedication, because this is Nero's dad we're talkng about; Nero is determined to help the wikis, so I'm sure it's okay. As for the rest; ask Nero for the answers.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 20:36, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

We don't have to suck up to Nero; he knows better. And as I said before, all contributions, privelages, and history will be kept. As for who maintains ultimate control, I suppose that will be Nero's dad possible, or someone else.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 21:32, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

Well, if the move is successful, the idea is to tear down the old wikis, so the new ones don't get blacklisted by search engines.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 22:30, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I bet they didn't think of locking all the pages so only admins can edit them, promoting all Users to admins and having them delete all the articles, then wiping out and/or deleting the MediaWiki coding. I figure if old SNN is gonna go out, it might as well go out with a bang.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 22:57, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

Nono! The MediaWiki coding is on each and every wiki. It's what allows stuff like editing and archiving. If we take down the MediaWiki coding for Sonic News Network, it will be a total mess. As a total mess, no-one will want to adopt it, and when abandoned, Wikia staff will have to delete the old SNN. Believe me, this might be a bannable offense, but it's not illegal. Besides, if SNN is cutting ties with Wikia, why listen to the Staff anymore?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 23:12, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

The Wikia staff don't regularly patroll the wikis, and we hardly get any experienced Users not already from SNN anyway. More than likely, the only people who would come here are inexperienced Users with no idea what to do. With the MediaWiki down, Users wouldn't come here as often. Coupled with the fact that SNN is moved, who would bother wanting the old one back?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 23:29, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, if SNN is being cloned, then abandoned, why not take down the old Wikia-controlled one? I doubt they'll find out about it, at least for quite a while. And so what if we're banned from old SNN? We won't even be on it anymore, so what does it matter?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 23:46, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

Let me catch you on one of those first ones; absolutely nothing would be done until the move is completely finished, and we know that it has been a success. Besides Morff, if the current SNN stays, then the non-wiki SNN, the one that most of the Users here will be on, will be blacklisted by search engines, and wno't gain any new members or popularity. That's why something has to be done to the old SNN.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 15:42, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

First and foremost, as this wiki belongs to the community, it's obvious this would have to be brought up to everyone else, especially since this concerns all of them. Second, we were talking about 58's adminship being rescinded due to her actions and attitude as of late.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 18:17, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, partially cuz I don't have a wikia.css. You saw how your link was red, didn't you?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 18:43, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, and I don't plan to. I refuse to use the skin that Wikia forced on us. Besides, soon enough SNN will be moved, and we won't have to listen to or adhere to Wikia anymore.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 18:52, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Pardon me morff, but you have been gone and out of the loop for over a month, while I've been on both SNN and SFW, in the middle of all of this. So, I think I know just a little bit more about the situation than you do. Like for one, the move isn't a risky gamble; if something goes wrong, the original will still be here, and we can try again. Second, we won't be splitting the Userbace, because most everyone on the wiki dislikes and/or hates the new skin, and everyone is for or at least willing to go along with the move.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 19:05, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

The trashing part I still have to bring up on SNN; the idea was more or less agreed upon for SFW at the very least, so the past could be let go of, and no-one would have to maintain the old SFW that no-one would care about anymore. The moving part has basically been established on my latest blogs, from "SNN's Viewpoint" to "Dissappointment...". It's all been going on for the month you've been gone.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 19:32, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I'm going by the same logic 58 did. We've got several Users who are distinctly in favor of this, with next to no opposition to the move. The rest of the Users seem to be willing to go along with the move, or simply don't care.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 20:24, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. Sides, the move has plenty of upsides for SNN.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 20:34, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Complete creative freedom, and Wikia having absolutely no control over the wiki are two more.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 20:46, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

.....Do I really have to be specific? *waves hand to the skin*--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 21:09, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Well, we're limited on what skins we can and can't use. Outside of Wikia, hell we could make our own skin!--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 21:16, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

It was only an example.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 21:25, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I did the thing and it is better than before. Still not as good as the wiki used to be, but better, thanks for that. So yeah, this move thing is one of those crazy cranberries I mentioned before. So at first an offer to buy the wiki came from FTCR.com or find the computer room, whatever you want to call it. No one ever asked me about it, but I found them to be a very ambitious website with plans on becoming big like the Sonic Stadium or Sonic Retro. I was all for joining them, thinking we'd finally get a little respect in the Sonic community. But now, reading over your talk page, it appears someone rejected that offer and now want some user's Dad to sponsor the site? That seems pathetic and lame and I'd rather stay where we are. Sonictoast 16:38, November 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Sorry I blew it with the tournament updates this week, leaving three of the previous winners up, I guess I just got so wrapped up in the numbers I completely forgot about the names. Kagi pitched in with the Tournament a little. I finally got a new job about a month ago, the job is great, but I haven't been able to be on SNN too much lately. But I for one am really glad you are back. You are like a guardian over SNN keeping things in order. I think if you ever left permanently, this wiki would fall apart. Anyway, sorry I'm being kind of ranty, it's late where I am and it has been a long day of work.

So anyway, about this move, I don't think we should be jumping into it yet. I think we should call a meeting with all the active admins. In this meeting we should thoroughly discuss the pros and cons of moving and maybe even vote on the matter. If the pros outweigh the cons and a majority of the admins are for it, we should go ahead and move, but if it is the opposite, we should stay. This is really something I think we should all do together, not have some of us stay and some of us move and have two identical wikis. It should be all or nothing. What are your thoughts on this idea?Sonictoast 05:34, November 11, 2010 (UTC)

Tournament Changeovers
Hey Morff, Could you do changeovers this week, possibly for the next two weeks? My wife is 8 months and 3 weeks pregnant. So if the baby doesn't come this weekend, he'll definitely be here next week. So yeah, If she goes into labor, I'm pretty sure SNN will be the last thing on my mind. Sonictoast 06:56, November 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * I like that you related the poll to the tourney. It will drive more traffic to the tournament and points out how cool it is the two have been randomly paired off like that. Also, great job on the changeovers. No baby yet on my side, but we have a good feeling about tonight. Sonictoast 01:57, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

just wanted to tell you. My son was born yesterday morning. Everything went well. 8 pounds 13 ounces. Sonictoast 21:07, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas, Supermorff. (Well if you are Christian)--58SlugDrones! 15:29, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

(So you aren't a Christian?)I'm a Muslim, how am I supposed to know about Christmas greetings?--58SlugDrones! 15:39, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Right, thanks. Actually, yeah, Christ, Abraham and Adam are prophets in Islam. We love Jesus too and highly respect him but we do not love him as much as we love Muhammad (PBUH) (a muslim cannot say his name without PBUH). Do Christians think Christ is dead?--58SlugDrones! 15:48, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

I see, so are Christians divided into different types? Muslims believe that he is a human and just a prophet (not a son a God) and we think he didn't die. We think that when he was being crucified, an Angel came down to him and brought him up to Heaven to save him. So we believe that he is not dead and he will come in the Day of Judgement and he will save us. PBUH stands for Peace Be Upon Him, Muslims should say it and even write it, well, I do not know if it's a sin not saying it but it is pretty insulting when not said or written after his name.--58SlugDrones! 16:02, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Muslims are divided into many, many types too. But the main ones are Sunni and Shia, first they were divided just because of political differences but now these fools have also made some religious differences. I hate this idea. I believe Islam should be one community and shouldn't have been divided in the first place especially in spiritual ways. The majority are Sunni. Though we are divided we just say we are Muslims instead of saying "Shia" or "Sunni" because we don't care that much.--58SlugDrones! 06:00, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Interesting. Wait a minute... you never chose an avatar because you never liked one? Ever?--58SlugDrones! 12:42, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

I guess most of the users would just put up an avatar whether they like it or not. Well, that's what I did! I am very picky about my signature, avatar and user page! I have changed these things tonnes of times. Same goes with my hairstyle and clothes, I change dramatically. Especially my personality! Has your personality every changed dramatically?--58SlugDrones! 14:34, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

How many personalities have you been through?--58SlugDrones! 14:39, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Category:Musical characters
Could you explain to me how this is unnecessary?-- 08:20, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sonic is part of the category. If there was only one set of musical characters (Underground or the Band) then yes, I would agree with you that it was pointless, but there's two, and I think there should be a category for it; however, I would not be opposed to it being merged into Category:Musicians if that is preferable.-- 08:33, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * It is for members of an in-game band.-- 08:42, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * By "in-game", I meant within the series itself.-- 08:48, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, thank you.-- 08:52, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Dark Chronicles Chao articles
Hello, Super. I have a question. on this list we have all the Chao and Chao types that appear in Sonic Chronicles, but recently I just noticed that there appears to be stub articles for several of the Chao listed on this page. All the ones I've seen so far more or less tell the same information that the article I just linked does, and I was wondering if it is really necessary to have those articles. Should we delete them? Lloyd the Cat "I hog that hedgehate!"  23:26, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

I really don't think there's any need to just make a list that links to the articles or make the articles in question longer because there's really not much information to describe about each of the Chaos anyway. All that can really be described is what they look like and what abilities they give the player's characters, but the list I just linked you pretty much does that already, and the articles I've looked at so far more or less do the exact same thing. I honestly don't think there's anything in the individual articles that can't be described on the list that shows all of them, which is why I don't think having individual articles for every Chao in Dark Chronicles is really necessary at all. Lloyd the Cat "I hog that hedgehate!"  00:20, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

So, can I go ahead and do something about the DC Chao articles, or do you think that we should keep them? Lloyd the Cat "I hog that hedgehate!"  09:45, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Community Corner
Can I do some work on the Community Corner? Look at Pokemon Wiki and LoL Wiki, they have quite the Community Corner, I can add the Poll of the Week, Featured User poll, Recent Site Discussions, Recent Site News, etc. And anything else that should be included. Should I start a forum? -- 02:02, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

Affiliation
Hi, Video Game Wiki recently affiliated with us, and they featured us on their main page, and they need major expanding, do you think we can feature them on the main page? They featured us, and I think it would only be fair... -- 23:54, October 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Their admin hasn't done it yet, I'll speak to her again, she edits at a lot of wikis, so she probably forgot. -- 11:53, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

Your Fanfics
Hey, I read two of your Sonic fanfics. I am actually impressed that I got interested in what you wrote which got me into keep reading it. This might really mean something considering that I am not fond of reading fanfiction at all. And I barely like reading! I seriously can't read a book and I don't like any. You are talented that's for sure.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 13:52, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

It's no big deal. Hope to see more of your Sonic fanfics!--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 05:47, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

French interwiki
Hi,

I've added French Sonic Wiki on Affiliates page. Interwiki link is already set, could you please add it to the main page?

—Wyz 21:55, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! —Wyz 19:22, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Art
Just saw your edits, and I am very happy someone else is paying attention to the art policy however I am pretty sure no permission was asked on the images you listed, and I am pretty sure that the user(s) will not reply due to their inactivity. However, it's up to you.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 13:08, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

art policy
no worries, I'll take care of it. Sonictoast 18:55, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Badnik Articles
OK, I'm just going to automatically assume that some of my edits to the badnik articles seem sloppy, What have I done to mess the pages up? Serious  Sam   Heavy 12:56, December 20, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

Ah, I see. OK, I'll start reverting my edits. Terribly sorry about this mess Serious   Sam   Heavy 12:58, December 20, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

Wait, does that mean I just did something wrong and right at the same time? Serious  Sam   Heavy 13:02, December 20, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

Call it "Eggrobotnikman's Robots" XD. Yes, it's strange how some things turn out. Well, many thanks for informing me about that. BTW, should I try and fix some of the badnik articles you accidentally reverted? Serious  Sam   Heavy 13:06, December 20, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

I know you informed this guy, but now he's stealing fan-art from Cesar. Please block him.

DarkFuture
Hi, I have a problem with our newest administrator, DarkFuture. Although I supported his nomination, he recently left me a rude message. I accidentally undid the wrong edit, so I redid the constructive edit DarkFuture made. You can see the message here. He then decided to "start an edit war" and undid my edit which was removing a category that I accidentally readded because I undid the wrong edit, and then he redid the edit I made. That is quite unacceptable, you can him edit warring.

This is basically how it went:


 * 1) Mewkat14 uploaded her image and added a wrong category
 * 2) DarkFuture removed that category
 * 3) While trying to revert a different edit, I accidentally undid his
 * 4) I reverted my edit because I made a mistake
 * 5) He reverted that edit to be arrogant, as he said in my message
 * 6) DarkFuture did the same thing as I did, and re-removed that category.

The difference between our edits was that he did it on purpose to be arrogant, and mine was an accident. I have no reason why he did that edit and left that very rude message. Especially considering he is one of my good friends here, it appears he acted that way for unknown reasons, and I cannot figure it out... IDK... Opinion? -- 23:07, December 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * I talked to DarkFuture about it, he apologized. -- 01:35, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

RE
He stoled one of Cesar's new drawing.

<span style="background-color:Blue; color:White; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> SonicTheHedgehogDude <span style="background-color:Red; color:White; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px"> talk    contribs  <span style="background-color:Red; color:White; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">  blog   01:43, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Non-Sonic Images
Morff, I've been going through some old user pages to check for deleted images, and I've come across one that is non-Sonic, and I'd like to know if I should mark it a deletion candidate (This is where I found the image). Serious  Sam   Heavy 12:51, December 22, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

Oops, my bad, I forgot that non-Sonic images are permitted here a few times. Thanks. Serious  Sam   Heavy 13:25, December 22, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

Sorry 'bout that. I have no clue who made those three pictures, though. So I guess I'll just remove them. Again, sorry about that. Lightning  the   Hedgehog

S.O.N.I.C.X.
Hey there, Moff. Did I do a good work with the S.O.N.I.C.X. pages?? I still have to perfect Jerome Wise's page and create the Organizers, all of which I'll do as soon as I can. Knowall, One Who Seeks Information - December 22, 2011 16:07

Noted, and thanks for telling me. Knowall, One Who Seeks Information - December 22, 2011 16:13

Morff, there is someone on the chat wo is under the chat rules limit and refuses to leave (Bullet is Away). Could you please assist? Serious  Sam   Heavy 18:14, December 22, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

Never mind, he left. Serious  Sam   Heavy 18:15, December 22, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

Sorry you can delete it right away I have yet to get through all the rules since I just joined this morning

Vandal Images
Morff, the other day a vandal named of "My Little P0ny" uploaded a bunch of spam images, images with language, and possibly some fanart without permission. Could these be deleted when you get a chance? Serious  Sam   Heavy 13:30, December 23, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

Deleting Chat Emotes
It appears as if you are deleting chat emotes because they are unused. We may have to keep the files on a separate page so they don't appear unused. -- 22:14, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Image and archive
Hey, I'm going to add to the Jerome Wise page so I can complete the S.O.N.I.C.X. pages, but for that, I wanna know if I can temporarily remove the bio card image. BTW, ain't your talk page too crowded? Knowall, One Who Seeks Information - December 23, 2011 21:43

Thanks you. Knowall, One Who Seeks Information - December 24, 2011 11:15

Morff, I would also like to ask if I can take out Rainbowroad6w's demotion request. The reason for the post was discussed with Rainbow on chat, and he admitted to the insults and claims, and promises that will watch his words next time. Do I have permission to take it out? Knowall, One Who Seeks Information - December 24, 2011 14:54

I will do it immediately. I apologize for all this nuisance. Knowall, One Who Seeks Information - December 24, 2011 15:47

dont delete my stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hey super,i am wonderning who creted this wiki,do you know who?

Lightningsonic14 19:11, December 25, 2011 (UTC)lightningsonic14

ok thanks!

Lightningsonic14 19:56, December 25, 2011 (UTC)lightningsonic14

Categories
I see you renamed the category I created for the Sonic CD bosses, and I know why, I thought it would be fine to use a capital for the ending word, but that doesn't apply for other categories. Anyways, thanks for creating an improved one.

EDIT: I would also like to report a user who is constantly commenting on old blogs, despite warnings: (http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:99.45.246.164) Serious   Sam   Heavy 14:49, December 27, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

OK. Thanks! Serious  Sam   Heavy 14:49, December 27, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

About the blogs: I guess that still leaves us with the forum about people commenting on old blogs. I'm mixed between decisions of having them locked (if possible) or deleted. Deletion would be good if it's the only alternative, but sometimes I enjoy reading a few old blog posts. Serious  Sam   Heavy 14:58, December 27, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

Ahh, I see. To be honest I'd much rather see blogs of Sonic running into walls than blogs about a 7-year celebration of a kid in a TV show who keeps constantly saying he's passed on flatus (http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:MetalShadow272/Foster%27s_Home_for_Imaginary_Friends:_7th_Anniversary_Coming_Up!). Serious  Sam   Heavy 15:32, December 27, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

Actually, I was making a joke. And it didn't appear to be deleted when I found it in Metal's blog history. Strange. NM. Serious  Sam   Heavy 15:35, December 27, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

Anyways, I just remembered something I should bring up. It's about the Blossomed Cosmo page. I don't feel as though it's an official title, but the section should be merged into the Cosmo the Seedrian page (check the talk for the first link). Thoughts? Serious  Sam   Heavy 15:38, December 27, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

The only problem I see with this is that the title should be kept a bit short, and there aren't many other words to describe the super form in the title (unless I just don't have enough of an extensive vocabulary). Serious  Sam   Heavy 15:43, December 27, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

Well, I'm fine with that. I'll rename it like that for now, hopefully I won't receive angry messages from people who formerly created the title. Thanks. Serious  Sam   Heavy 15:48, December 27, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

Automated Message
Hey Supermorff, I have been thinking of including the Chat Policy and information about the required amount of edits to access the chat in the automated message. We seem to get a lot of users on the chat that aren't even aware of the policy. At least by including the Chat policy in the automated message, that should cut down maybe half of the users that go on the chat without knowledge of the policy. Usually when someone goes on the chat without the required number of edits, we have to explain to them the rules of the Chat policy and why they have to leave. I know that this is exhausting the Chat Mods, having to explain this over and over again, so I think including this in the automated message well help things go more smoothly on the chat. What do you think? 22:48, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll make a forum shortly about this. 04:43, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Morff, could I have a private word with you on the chat briefly? Serious  Sam   Heavy 20:41, December 28, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

im sorry i just dont like seaching for the images thank u for your warning thoughTailsSilver)

I'm am Vandal Detector X. Or just SonicTheHedgehogDude. Please ban Josh28463 for infinite for adding fanon to mainspace. He was banned before by Bullet Francisco for 3 days. Thank you. <span style="background-color:Blue; color:White; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> SonicTheHedgehogDude <span style="background-color:Red; color:White; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px"> talk    contribs  <span style="background-color:Red; color:White; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">  blog   17:30, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

I don't get it. He was posting fanon many times. He was blocked by Bullet. Today, his block ended. And continue despite warnings from many users to stop. <span style="background-color:Blue; color:White; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> SonicTheHedgehogDude <span style="background-color:Red; color:White; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px"> talk    contribs  <span style="background-color:Red; color:White; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">  blog   19:14, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

This user keeps adding info that Mysic Haunt Zone and Plant Kingdom Zone is on Sonic Generations 3DS. And also adding how the levels on the game will go like. <span style="background-color:Blue; color:White; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> SonicTheHedgehogDude <span style="background-color:Red; color:White; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px"> talk    contribs  <span style="background-color:Red; color:White; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">  blog   19:32, January 1, 2012 (UTC)



Here's is one resently:



Somehow it said that Metal added them, It's wrong.

here's the links:

http://sonic.wikia.com/index.php?title=White_Space&diff=prev&oldid=583846

http://sonic.wikia.com/index.php?title=Radical_Train&diff=prev&oldid=573460

http://sonic.wikia.com/index.php?title=Wii&diff=prev&oldid=596906

<span style="background-color:Blue; color:White; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> SonicTheHedgehogDude <span style="background-color:Red; color:White; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px"> talk    contribs  <span style="background-color:Red; color:White; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">  blog   19:41, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

K. It won't be a infinte block since one of his edits were constrcive, but if you does posts fanon again, It might be at least almost a week block? <span style="background-color:Blue; color:White; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> SonicTheHedgehogDude <span style="background-color:Red; color:White; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px"> talk    contribs  <span style="background-color:Red; color:White; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">  blog   19:46, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

RfA question
I was wondering if you could close Katrins' nomination on the RfA page. It's been a week since I started her nomination. Also, (since consensus is obviously in her favour) may I have the honor of giving Katrins her Chat Moderator rights when you close her nomination? Or, per the rules of the RfA page, are Crats' only allowed to do so? 20:41, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Ah. Well, it worked. I successfully gave her Chat Mod rights. 20:50, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

One more question. This has been bugging me for months, but do you know if it's possible to center videos? I've tried everything that I know, but nothing works! I'm starting to believe that it's not possible on wikia. 21:13, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Blue Falcon soundtrack I have been meaning to center videos like these so that the page looks a little more organized and unnecessary space is taken up. 21:50, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Wow, that was so simple. I'm surprised it took me so long to figure that out. So, I knew I had to remove "right", but I never once considered removing the "thumb". And then from there you just added the center format. Thank you so much. You just saved me many more months of headaches. 22:00, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for letting me know what happened. 22:05, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Article That Need Unlocked
Would it be possible to get the Cream the Rabbit unlocked as it's been locked since November. If not, could you add (Console/PC version) next to Sonic Generations in the list of game she's appeared in? Thanks in advance. Mbruno 00:57, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Aw come on man. Well that banner got me famous at a chat website. Well, that is okay. Can I censor it? Thanks. --DiscoDuck 16:20, January 3, 2012 (UTC)