Talk:Earth

Let me sum this up to those who are still confused with the Earth/Mobius debate. There are three planets in total, each in a different reality.

Earth (Our world)- The actual in real life planet we live on that is not home to Sonic or any of his humanoid animal friends. This is the world that YOU live on.

Earth (Sonic's world)- The world of Sonic the Hedgehog where his life and games take place. This is an alternate Earth compared to our own and fictional. It is different from our real Earth because it's humans share it with dwarf-size humanoid animals of human intellect, however they are the minority race compared to humans who populate all over the Earth. While this Earth has the same locations we have on our Earth, it does have places that are alternate to ours. For example Empire City is perhaps this Earth's version of New York. For all we know the land that Empire City and Central City are located on could still be called America.

Mobius (Cartoon and Comics)- The name of this planet was actually a mistranslation error as Sonic Team were actually discussing one of the obsticals in the game, the Möbius strip. Some people today are confused and say that this is Sonic's actual world. This is false. It is a world where an alternate Sonic the Hedgehog lives named "Sonic" Olgilvie Maurice Hedgehog. It is based on an 14,016 CE-old Earth where after alien-nuclear war, Earth was ultimately "reset" and renamed Mobius. There is also other alternate Mobius' located in zones. Three in particular alternate Mobius' are the cartoon Mobius of AoSTH, the gritty british-english Mobius of Sonic the Comic and Sonic Underground being close to Archie's Mobius, but under different royality.

There is also Planet Freedom from the video movie.

I hope that this has cleared up all confusion to those questioning Sonic's home planet.--Mystic Monkey is a proud MonoBook Wikian. 14:43, June 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * Seems your clarification needs some clarification. The name "Mobius" is not a translation error. The name was used before the interview that those people consider to be the origin of the term. In the continuities featuring Mobius as Sonic's home planet, Mobius is his actual world. In the continuities not featuring Mobius, his homeworld is unnamed or it is Earth (or Planet Freedom).
 * And, as usual, this should be a forum not on the talk page. -- Supermorff (talk) 14:44, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I put this here to save the trouble of those wondering where Sonic came from and asking over and over on various talk pages and forums.--Mystic Monkey is a proud MonoBook Wikian. 17:35, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I understand, but your post contains some factual inaccuracies. Also, this is the kind of distinction that should be made in the article itself. -- Supermorff (talk) 19:36, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Earth versus Mobius
According to the Archie Comic series, Mobius is Earth. I would guess this would be an accepted explanation for the other media in which Sonic's home is referred to as "Mobius." I still don't totally understand where they were in Sonic X. FerralMoonrender 22:38, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It's all about different 'continualities' Theirs a variety such as the differences between AoSTH and SatAM. These 'Mobiuses' may have alot in common (Sonic, Robotnik, DiC, name) but not in the same realaties as AoSTH is all about the lols while SatAM is metallic drama. X is based with Chris and ofcourse the series of games. I personally concentrate on the games than the comics, cartoons or anything else but thats how I apreciate Sonic.--Mystic Monkey 00:35, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

earth ii is mobius?
earth ii is mobius? (sonicthehedgehog9000)

Sonic born on Christmas Island
Does that mean Sonic is an Aussie?
 * The old Sonic Bible is sort of a grey area. Not even hardcore Sonic fans are 100% on it. For example it is said Dr. Robotnik was once Dr. Kintobor, but in Sonic Adventure 2 it is proven that Dr. Robotnik has family history. Could easily be rewritten though that Dr. Robotnik was once the kind scientist and now Dr. Eggman.--Mystic Monkey is a proud MonoBook Wikian. 14:43, June 24, 2012 (UTC)

Earth Unleashed
As the new game centers mostly around this world, would the continents, location and flags be included soon? I would do it myself but dunno the correct places for them.--Mystic Monkey 21:59, 27 November 2008 (UTC) =No mobius in original= In the japenese manuals of the old sonic games sonic has always been living on earth. even christmas island and south island are located in the pacific ocean in these manuals. japan has created sonic and always had him living on earth. he was born on earth. though the american manuals say it was on mobius. so in truth angel island and every other place in the games and sonic and his friends were born on earth. and every adventure. By --JohnnyLightning 03:28, 12 March 2009 (UTC)Johnny Lightning 3/11/09
 * ...in the Japanese continuity. And only in the Japanese continuity.
 * And even if it is Earth, it's not our Earth, and dosn't have our countries and soforth. Rendering the point somewhat moot. The Doctor... IS IN Molten Scandium  04:42, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Picture
I seriously doubt the picture shown on the article is Earth. It does NOT look like earth, and in the game, the continents are different (Mazuri, Spagonia, etc.) It's safe to say that the picture shown is Mobius, not Earth.
 * I like to think of it as an alternate earth, i mean there are no giant talking animals here.  Myself  123  10:27, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Ehh, all Mobius really is, is an alternate Earth. --72.197.35.238 15:50, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

See "Earth versus Mobius" discussion on top of page about it. I believe that it is canon that Sonic's Earth and Mobius are from two seperate Sonic continuities and Sonic's world is simply based and named after our real world we live on.--Mystic Monkey is a proud MonoBook Wikian. 14:43, June 24, 2012 (UTC)

Tidied up a bit
Hope it all looks alright now.
 * Thank you.--Mystic Monkey is a proud MonoBook Wikian. 14:43, June 24, 2012 (UTC)

Picture
Could we get a picture of earth as it appears in the games when it isn't shattered? It appears much more often like that. - Shadow34

Sega Stars
This is a bit of a stretch since cross-series is not usually considered canon, but do you think it "maybe" canon Sonic shares his world with other Sega Stars? (Except for Sega stars who's games set in there own worlds.)

NiGHTS for example since Sonic and NiGHTS have met some times and for all we know Twinseeds and Bellbridge actual locations in Sonic's world, just Sonic wasn't shown there.

Also Sonic has been to the Gurhal Star System (Phantasy Star) a few times.

As for Nintendo cross over, to me that be too much of a stretch, like Nintendo being an alternate universe to Sega. Though who to say that before Mario lived in the Mushroom Kingdom he lived in the same Brooklyn that is on Sonic's world?--Mystic Monkey is a proud MonoBook Wikian. 14:40, June 21, 2012 (UTC)