Forum:New Admins and Bureaucrat

Since my fellow bureaucrats are not present at the moment and I cannot consult them, I will be making an executive decision if those involved will accept it. Two new administrators will be made: User:Sonicrox14 and User:Launchballer. I am not particulary fond of the latter decision, but he has shown that he can work hard and I am sure he will do his duty to the best of his ability. If he does not and steps out of line again, I give Kagimizu permission to strip him of his rank as admin and block him for his chosen time period. Which brings me to the next order of business: Kagimizu will be promoted to Bureaucrat status and shall keep an eye on the two new admins and, should he feel it needed, select those he feels worthy of adminship. You three may turn these positions down if you wish and I shall find someone else to take them, but do please consider my offer.Fair field fencer F F F  15:16, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Comments

 * Kagi knows the rules well and tries to obide by them even when he doesn't like them. He's got the spirit and I think he'll do very well.Fair field fencer F F F  16:07, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Launch showed me this forum (thank you, by the way), but I honestly don't know what to think. The suggestion is completely out of right field, bypasses any standard procedures the wiki may have, ignores consensus on Launchballer's nomination, and has no sort of explanation. Why are you making this executive decision? -- Supermorff 17:16, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

I have to agree with LB and Morff. I'm no beaurecrat material. I'm more than happy simply being a sysop. I personally fully believe that Shelly should be the next beaurecrat. In fact, if I were made an admin, I was gonna officially nominate Shelly for adminship. She has me outclassed in all my good points, and doesn't have any of my downsides.--Kagi mizu -Seeya  'round ~ 17:25, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Well, you want my honest answer? Becoming a beaurecrat here would be a dream come true. However, I just can't. You have to go with the better User, and that's Shelly. I'll take that beaurecrat nomination someday, but not before Shelly get what she's owed. Just look at featured User poll! She's first by a landslide of almost 100 votes, with 2nd place only having about 20 votes. The better User should be rewarded first.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 17:45, September 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * This is the problem: if you see this as a reward, then the system is going to fail. It's not a reward. It's a statement that you have demonstrated a certain level of maturity and dedication that is required to help the site ticking over. Admins don't run the place, but they do allow it to keep running. I'm not too annoyed by the decision that has been made, since I have reasonable expectations that all three will do a good job, but I am furious at the way it was made! -- Supermorff 17:54, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

I know that it isn't a reward, I was speaking figuratively; Shelly deserves to be a beaurecrat before me, pure and simple. I know that admins and beaurecrats don't run this place. They are here to make sure it continues to run smoothly, and to keep anyone from impeding the wiki's progress with vandalism of any kind. If there's no other option, I will take the beaurecrat nomination a good while after Shelly has been made beaurecrat. But if I can take sysop before then, then I'm more than happy with that.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 18:03, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and one more thing. If Shelly is made beaurecrat or admin, can I tell her? I'm the one who got her hopes of being an admin up after all.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 18:24, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Hardly any admins or bureaucrats are active here. These guys have what it takes. I've gone passed the line, I'll admit, but things are starting to get out of hand. We've got over 2,000 articles here and we need enough admins and users to make sure they're up to expectations and aren't vandalized. If you like, I could revert LB's adminship and call the other bureaucrats in to help with this. Molten Scandium's over at =SSMB= so I could contact him through PM, and I could easily get in touch with SLJ over at YouTube or BumbleKing. Whatever the reason, we need more admins fast.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  19:25, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Administrator Recommendations

 * User:Launchballer
 * User:Kagimizu
 * User:Sonicrox14
 * Bionicleboy3000

I personally recommend Akamia for adminship. He's an experienced and reliable User, who could greatly contribute. OIne example in particular would be his, which has proven to be useful for many Users. Granted, he hasn't been on in a while, but this is only because his computer broke down, and he's waiting to get a laptop. The only reason I didn't nominate him for beaurecracy is because he's often busy, and the additional responsibilties could overwhelm him.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 21:29, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Bureaucrat Recommendsations

 * User:Kagimizu
 * User:Sonicrox14
 * User:Supermorff
 * User:Myself 123
 * User:Mystic Monkey

I recommend Shelly! She has more than enough experience as a User. What's more, she started the Sonic Soundtest Wiki and was made a beaurecrat at the Shadow Spy Net, so she has experience. She's also extremely popular with the other Users, so I seriouly doubt you would find any objections.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 19:30, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * Since you've turned down the position in favour of her, I second.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  19:34, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'm willing to accept it sometime in the future, but only after those who deserve it more get it first, like Shelly, Mystic, 123, and Morff. Until then, I'm more than happy with Sysop.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 19:41, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Comment
'''How is Launchballer's tagging stuff as puppets part of adminship?! This is the only wiki that does it. Search around.''' CG Talk!
 * The guy did a thorough search of sockpuppets and blocked people to tag all them. Imagine what he could do if he became dedicated to find sources for articles anywhere he could? There'd be E-123 Omegas all over the place. It's not the deed, but the determination and where you apply it.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  19:59, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well some of it is wrong, idk who the hell Bix Hawk is! Some of those aren't even mine that he labeled mine. His work has been less than thorough. CG Talk![[File:Crashdance.gif]]
 * Granted, but he still had quite the determinating and citing sources as references in articles is much easier that proving two different accounts are owned by the same person. And already he's done a blanket block of one of the worst vandals we've ever had. He's been terrorising us for months!<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  20:04, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

And who's that? Sonic Fan imposters?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 20:05, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * No. The "I like" guy.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  20:08, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

What!? How many innocent people!? That's nuts!! Personally, I think it's better to have deal with 1 vandal rather than block thousands of peope who could contribute! With the new admins, we should have no problem with him. I'm usually the first to spot him, so when I become an admin, it'll be nice to be able to do something about it.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 21:00, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * He means in regards to IPs. He blocked all IP addresses that shared the first few digits that usual appear in "I like"'s own IP addresses. If they're not him, they'll eventually be granted a new IP address and they'll be able to contribute as much as they want. IP addresses are constantly in flux.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  21:09, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Well, alright. So long as it doesn't keep innocent people from positively contributing to the SNN, I don't have a problem with it.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 21:23, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

I can believe Launchballer blocked all those IPs!! We lose a lot of good contributors like that! Even if they're vandals, dosen't everyone deserve a second chance? I don't even think "iLike" deserved to be blocked!! Just stopped! I'm horrified of what will become of the wiki if we elect admins like that... -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog  23:49, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

I second that motion Shelly. Why do you think I fell you'd make a great beaurecrat? We need more admins and beaurecrats like you, Mystic, and Morff, and less admins like LB.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 00:22, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, Kagimizu. It's true, we need more admis that abide by the rules, stop making up new rules and less admins that will poitlessly tag you (Launchballer) and threaten to ban you if you make a link that's got nothing to do with Sonic. Unfairness like that is what drove away one of our founders!! my mistake he wasn't a founder but he had admin's potential! -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog  00:42, September 22, 2009 (UTC) p.s. kagi this is the part where you say "testify, sister!" xD

..... eh, what the heck. Testify Shelly!--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 00:49, September 22, 2009 (UTC)