Board Thread:Site Discussions/@comment-2054358-20140106053114

While I wanted to wait for the games' release for this revote, it's really hard for me to take this much stress of working on whole bunch of character articles within my userspace with a deadline of a game release. Back in October, Sonic was confirmed for Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS/Wii U. This prompted me to create articles on the other veterans since they pass the two games rule. However it caused a major argument on Link's talk page. So big that it drove me so insane it led to me being blocked for two weeks for the first time. There have been times where keep was winning, and other times where delete was winning, and times where we were tied. It was very close. However, BulletFrancisco ended it when delete was ahead by 5, two weeks later. I really panicked at the thought of those article being deleted. Thankfully he let me put the articles in my userspace in case we decide to have them back. Well, they really took up a lot of my contributions. 21.16% of my edits are in my userspace while only 16.86% are in the mainspace. And here are some reasons why the Super Smash Bros. characters should be in the mainspace.
 * Userspace is for fan characters. These characters I have are real characters that Sonic fought.
 * They don't go in-depth on their own series. You don't see Samus' space missions or anything about her life story outside of Super Smash Bros. Or Link's Hyrule adventures.
 * They won't turn us into a second Smash Wiki. We won't be covering every stage or assist trophy. We wouldn't be covering the original Super Smash Bros. for the N64 or Melee because Sonic didn't even appear in them. We won't have articles on Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, Rosalina or any other Smash 4 newcomers because they would break the two appearance rule. Mega Man managed to get on to this wiki due to the World's Collide series and a rule altered for other media.
 * Donkey Kong had an article back in 2010 while Bowser Jr. was constantly deleted. Donkey Kong and Bowser Jr. were the newcomers in Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games. The reason Bowser Jr. was deleted while Donkey Kong was kept was because Bowser Jr. wasn't playable with Sonic until that game while Donkey Kong met Sonic in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. If Super Smash Bros. counts for Donkey Kong, it must count for everyone else.
 * Just because they are not Sonic characters, doesn't mean they shouldn't have articles. We have a whole category of Non-Sonic characters, ranging from characters from other Sega games, to Mario characters that competed in the olympics, to Mega Man characters. These Nintendo characters have fought Sonic twice (or are going to fight Sonic a second time as the game isn't out yet). And besides, Nintendo and Sega has already gotten over their rivalry, people.
 * the rule states "Such characters must have appeared in at least two games, two comic books, or two episodes of a television show in which Sonic was a main character. Cameo appearances do not qualify as appearances. This includes crossover games, comics, and television shows, but excludes those in which Sonic merely made cameo appearances." People have argued that Sonic isn't a main character, but there really isn't a central protagonist. That was a main issue in the argument in October. While his role in the Subspace Emmissary was a deus ex machina, he did defeat the main antagonist of the game who also appeared out of nowhere at the last second. Defeating the main villain might give a lot of points of importance. The game was even delayed for him. And he has his own trailer for both games, even the new one that only has trailers for the veterans. And if he was a minor character, that means he's just a cameo, and we know what we do with cameos. We don't make full articles on cameo appearances. We just list them on the Sonic Cameos page. All the fighters are considered main characters. Super Smash Bros. isn't about story. It's about beating up your friends. Brawl is the only Smash game with a story and Smash 4 is confirmed to have no story because the Subspace Emmissary was leaked on Youtube.

And if I lose this vote again, I don't want them deleted from my userspace. That'll be even worse than having to work on them in my userspace. 