Sonic News Network:Requests for User Rights

Requests for adminship (RfA) is the process by which this wiki's community decides who will become administrators (also known as admins or sysops), who are users with access to additional features, most notably the ability to delete pages and to block users. A user either submits his/her own request for adminship (a self-nomination) or is nominated by another user. Please become familiar with the Administrators' how-to guide before submitting your request. This process is modeled around Wikipedia's RfA process, and more information can be found at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship.

Nominating
To submit a nomination for somebody else, please create a section below the "Current nominations for adminship" line listing the nominee's username as a piped link to his/her userpage. Below that, please include a statement about why you are nominating this person and why you think they will be a good admin. The nominee should then accept (or reject) the nomination, and include a statement about why (s)he wants to become an admin, why (s)he thinks (s)he is a good candidate, and what (s)he plans to do with administrator rights. All users must sign and date their statements.

To submit a self-nomination, please create a section below the "Current nominations for adminship" line listing your username as a piped link to your userpage. Below that, please include a statement about why you want to become an admin, why you think you are a good candidate, and what you plan to do with administrator rights. Please sign and date your statement.

Editorial Note: Adminship is NOT taken lightly. You may actually want to spend some time on your request. A couple sentences is hardly sufficient to show that you won't cause more problems than you solve with admin tools, let alone that you think that there is a good reason why more admins are necessary and that you would be a good candidate for a new admin, that you're willing to put time and effort into this wiki, and that you know how to use admin powers properly and would do so.

Discussion
Once a nomination has been made, users will review the nominee and declare their support or opposition by commenting. Such posts should be bulleted (with asterisks *) and preceded by Yes, No or Neutral. When declaring support or opposition in this way, please refrain from using a talk bubble, even if you frequently use one on talk pages. This is to help bureaucrats to easily determine who is for and who is against the nomination.

In this section, users may also make comments (to be preceded by Comment) or ask the nominee questions (to be preceded by Question) in an attempt to get a better idea of the nominee's strengths and weaknesses. Remember to use colons or asterisks (*) at the beginning of lines when responding to other people's comments.

If you wish to change your opinion at a later date, please strke through your original Yes/No/Neutral declaration (you can do this with the tags as follows: Yes produces Yes ).

This is not a majority vote. It is an attempt to assess the community's consensus regarding the candidate. Moreover, to become an admin, the candidate should have the support of most of the community, so if the vote is split, the candidate will probably not be given adminship. Any user can contribute, but opinions have more weight if backed up by reasons and evidence (e.g. occasions in which the nominee has done particularly good or bad work). The opinions of long-standing users, particularly current administrators, will also tend to hold more weight than recently-joined or inexperienced users.

After a reasonable amount of time, a bureaucrat (a user who has even more rights than an administrator, and can give other users admin rights) will read through the request, determine the community's consensus about whether you should be made an admin, and close the discussion. The discussion will be removed from this page, but is still accessible through the page's edit history.

New format
Note: A new format of adminship discussion has been proposed at Sonic News Network talk:Requests For Adminship. All users are welcome to share their thoughts.

Advice
Here are some pieces of advice for nominators and nominees:
 * Please read through and follow the nomination guidelines above. Failure to do so will harm your chances of success.
 * Demonstrate that you understand what being an admin involves. Read through Help:Administrators' how-to guide if you are not familiar with the role.
 * Admins are expected to be good users first, but this is not sufficient to be made an admin. Number of edits, number of pages created, being nice to other users, not engaging in vandalism, knowing about Sonic, etc. are signs of a good user, but they should have no bearing on the discussion for adminship. Only users widely recognised as good users should be nominated for adminship (those that have not demonstrated this through their work will have their nominations rejected quickly) and they do not need to prove this again during the debate for adminship.
 * Don't expect that the community will be familiar with your work. You must provide evidence. In its simplest form, this may include listing pages (or talk pages) where you have been particularly influential, but preferably you should provide a link to the Diff pages of major edits you make.
 * Similarly, don't expect that the community will necessarily be aware of your nomination. You are advised to request comments from regular users, particularly admins (a list of whom can be found here). Note, however, that only asking your own friends to comment is usually transparent and may harm your chances in the long run.
 * If you are an admin on another wiki site, this can provide good evidence of your suitability for adminship, assuming either you have been granted adminship in recognition of the work you have done on the site (as opposed to receiving it because you founded the site or were one of the only users) or you have been an effective admin having received the privileges. You must provide a link to the site in question.
 * Don't lie, as doing so will almost certainly result in a failed nomination.
 * Be patient. This process is not quick. If you cannot wait for the process to conclude at its own pace, you probably aren't ready for adminship anyway.
 * Remember that this is not a talk page. Please keep discussions relevant to the matter at hand and do not start to chat. For instance, try not to thank everybody who votes in your favour.
 * Don't attempt to influence the discussion by promising to do something if you are successful.
 * Don't talk about things that you don't do, only things that you do do.
 * Please be civil!
 * Read User:Sonicrox14's blog: User blog:Sonicrox14/So, You Wanna Be An Admin?! and take a second thought about adminship.

Current Nominations For Adminship
Here are the users who are currently nominated for sysop, rollback, bureaucrat, or other privileges.

User:Sonicyay2 (Adminship)
I may have gotten into a bit of trouble back in May, but i would like to become an admin for the following reasons:


 * I would never not help Sonic wikis


 * I want to protect pages if a war between edits start or some ****ed up stuff like that


 * I want every Sonic wiki to be 100% complete!


 * I'll give users warnings if they are naughty, if they do the same thing again or something badder, they will get a ban.


 * Sonic News Network needs to be the most popular wiki on Wikia. Ever.

I'll help as much as i can! You can count on me! :D

No: 3 out of 5 of those reasons to become admin could be achieved as a standard User. On top of that, something a little more substantial could be provided, if you really are worthy of Adminship. I reccomend going through Rollback status first. Get a little more experience. And curse less (censorship is still cursing in my eyes).-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 00:19, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

NO: A lot of your edits have been reverted, I also think you are far from ready for adminship I really have nothing else to say. --

=== A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) (Adminship)===

I'd like to nominate myself for Adminship for the following reasons...


 * It would be beneficial for the wiki to have another eye in the sky. As any admin could do, I could spot vandalized or fake pages and rid the wiki of this injustice.


 * With my investigative skills (even if it doesn't take much), I can find out who made/edited said pages, and explain why what they did was wrong.


 * I'll ban on a "chance system" of sorts; I'll give users a maximum of 3 chances to cease fire, depending on the offense.


 * I'm going into mediation training (before training as a lawyer for my local Youth Court), so I will be able to neutrally settle disputes between users who might be arguing. This skill may prove useful on the field. And admin powers could end up being neccessary in case things get too out of hand.


 * I am going to become a prosecutor, and I find the skills of one to be of use here.

Please consider these points before voting:


 * Edit count: I don't want anyone talking about this. How many edits someone makes is irrelevant to the case.


 * Mainspace: I realize how I haven't been doing much mainspace editing lately. But that has no bearing here; Whatever is in the mainspace right now (except in the case of glaringly incorrect information) is all that I know about Sonic at the moment. I try to find new info, but I'm much too slow to add anything I think is new. Please, leave this out of your arguments.


 * Friendship/Enemity: This is mostly talking to my closer friends on the wiki, also serving as a reminder to the more professional of them. Please, leave personal feelings as my friend (or otherwise...) out of your arguments. What matters is deciding if I am truly worthy of adminship. Friend or foe relations don't shift tectonic plates, if you know what I mean.


 * Grammar: Of course I'm not perfect, but then again, who is? If you want to hear it from me, I think my grammar is sufficient enough for the standards of the administration. But that's for the administration itself to decide, not me. At any rate, please leave this point alone.

I'm here to learn about Sonic, and to serve others who wish to do the same thing. This is my nomination. Voters, I ask just one thing of you: Make it count.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 02:04, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yes: Akamia is a very good admin candidate. When I was a nominee myself, Akamia was considered well-deserving of the rank, but his time constraints didn't allow for it. He has a spotless record for activity and User interaction, with zero complaints or warnings against him. I fully believe he deserves adminship.--Kagi mizu -Seeya 'round 02:12, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Original: Neutral- Meh. I don't know much about you but from what i've heard, your a good candidate but i want to see more of what you can do to make it a yes. JaketheHedgehog 04:26, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Response: "More of what [Akamia] can do" meaning what? It's a rather broad category, this "what I can do" stuff.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 04:31, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

I mean what you can do and have been doing for the community as a rollback. I'm not very familiar with your edits on the wiki. I've only seen you on blogs. JaketheHedgehog 04:37, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I have made a few "arrests" on the vandal known as "iLike" (a nickname I thought up myself, but recently this very vandal has been known as "Japulley", I think). I have been fighting that guy's foolery for quite awhile. Now that he's out of commission again, and doesn't seem to be coming back, I don't really know what to do with myself. Heh. But anyway, recently, I warned a user who was fooling around with the Sonic infobox, trying to replace his current picture with one of him from Sonic Heroes. He stopped after I did so. Just now, someone else was trying to do something similar to Knuckles' infobox, except it was Knuckles' 2006 art. I reverted the edit, but I think a warning may be in order...-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 04:44, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yes- Now that you mention that stuff, i think i'm a little more familiar with your work. I think you deserve it. (P.S. I'm running for rollback, could you vote please?) JaketheHedgehog 04:49, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, that revert I just told you about was done by Sonic100jam. I thought I did it, though, but it seems he beat me to the punch. Heh. But sure, I'll vote.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 04:52, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yes- You're a great editor, you help out a lot with the troublesome users situation and you are dilligent in your work. You have a clean record for editing and with your social benefits, and on top of this I know you well outside of SNN. This vote is hardly out of friendship, Akaimia is truely deserving of the position. The only thing I worry about is his edit count, but that simply pales in comparison to his actual edits and interactions. -- 13:50, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yes:I haven't been seeing what you've been doing(sometimes), but I've read what you said about yourself. So, it's a yes. I've seen you deal with vandals, and you have the required amount of edits. Also your mainspace edits are great, so, yes. You are just perfect to become an admin. -- I Pity The Fool. - Mr.T 15:52, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yes: Akamia, you absolutely deserve it, vandals and more, you've been a major help.

 Bullet Francisco ''' Don't be a jerk to the Bullet! '20:41, March 11, 2011 (UTC)''

This makes 5 Yes and 0 No, thus far.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 02:45, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

I am becoming more active as I go. I have been out for a very long time, yes, but I am quickly regaining my active state. In fact, I feel completely active now. I try to make a useful edit at least once a day, except when I feel there is nothing I can do at that time. Any instances in which I would have used admin privileges would include deletion of pages that are marked as such, except when validity of said markings are questionable or the page doesn't need deletion/is fanon and can be moved to the creator's userspace. The latter would be my action if said creator is in a registered account. Also, as I said in my nomination, I will ban on a "chance" system. This system takes care of repeat offenders/vandals. An insta-ban, if the offense is particularly offensive.
 * Maybe - I think you've got the skills, but I'm not sure you're active enough. Are there any instances in which you would have used admin privileges if you'd had them? Also, I'd like to hear the opinions of some other long-standing editors before making a final decision. -- Supermorff 19:40, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Let me elaborate: Person "O" (offender) says something very evil and personally offensive to you (I'll spare everyone any details). If I see that s/he has done that, I will block "O" for offensive behavior and harrassment, assuming that you (or anyone else) haven't done it first. How long it will last depends on the situation.

I would have used my powers to aid in the stopping of "iLike"/"Japulley". I have tried to talk this user out of causing trouble, but failed. As far as I am aware, his movements have been put on ice. But that doesn't mean that there aren't still troublemakers, but this is something everyone is aware of, I believe.

I have no objections to hearing from some of the senior editors. I'm actually curious as to what they might have to say. Not to mention that some of them might not know me, so I won't have to worry about votes based on friend/foe relations from them.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 01:55, March 23, 2011 (UTC) Maybe-I'm not sure, you're a good user, but I'm not sure if we need more admins, if more people say yes, then consider my vote as such.  Myself 123  21:44, April 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, but you'll have to ask them to comment yourself, because some of them may not watch this page. -- Supermorff 20:42, March 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I know. I sent a message to Shelly and Myself 123, inviting them to this discussion, but neither have responded so far. I don't really know who else to ask. It doesn't make sense to me, to ask somebody who doesn't know me, or even if I don't know that somebody. So I can't decide. Everyone I know so far (besides Shelly, Myself, Fairfieldfencer, and 58SD) has voted.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 00:00, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well the thing is, this page has been up for a few weeks, if it nobody has commented on here yet, who will?
 *  Hey! Bullet!  The Easter Bunny is Here! 15:20, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
 *  yes  i've looked through akamia;s contributions, i think hes ready -- Amy50 Amy rox! talk2me
 * That makes 6 yeses and 0 Nos for Akamia.
 * Hey! Bullet!  The Easter Bunny is Here! 17:42, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
 *  yes  i've looked through akamia;s contributions, i think hes ready -- Amy50 Amy rox! talk2me
 * That makes 6 yeses and 0 Nos for Akamia.
 * Hey! Bullet!  The Easter Bunny is Here! 17:42, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * That makes 6 yeses and 0 Nos for Akamia.
 * Hey! Bullet!  The Easter Bunny is Here! 17:42, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey! Bullet!  The Easter Bunny is Here! 17:42, March 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment: At this point, I am inclined to think that consensus is in favour. A quick question to people who have voted 'Maybe': would any of you object if I granted admin privileges at this time? -- Supermorff 11:38, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

No: Didn't you just come? Your participation in the wiki is weak in my opinion. Kindly voice on what difference you would make around here. Getting adminship isn't that easy.--58SlugDrones! 16:34, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Comment: Akamia's been here since March 09 Drones

@Murph: That's not even two months. I disgaree with the vote. He didn't show up like forever.--58SlugDrones! 16:49, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

By March 09 I meant March 2009 -- 'Murphyshane - Morph! He's alive! Don't click here '16:52, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

He has been inactive more than he has been active.--58SlugDrones! 16:53, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, in that case, excuse me -- 'Murphyshane - Morph! He's alive! Don't click here '16:54, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, besides I just came here to vote. Man, I can't believe I showed up so early.--58SlugDrones! 16:55, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

I see. -- 'Murphyshane - Morph! He's alive! Don't click here '16:56, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

@Morff I do for now, wait a little longer, I don't think enough users have gotten a say yet. -- Hey! Bullet!  The Easter Bunny is Here! 19:11, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Comment: "Inactive more than [Akamia] has been inactive"... I am fully aware that I have been inactive. But I have rebuilt my activity since my return. And remember that I don't want my mainspace contributions getting into this. And my reasons have already been stated.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 22:38, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

58 said she won't be getting on here for awhile, so I wouldn't try. -- Hey! Bullet!  The Easter Bunny is Here! 22:41, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Try what? I was just explaining something that needed clearing up. Also, she said to explain what difference my adminship would make. I don't know what difference it would make, per se (Come on, who could possibly know that?! Besides a psychic, that is).-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 22:46, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Actually Shelly pointed out a good point as seen below, it would be a good thing to have lots of admins, as the safer the wiki would be. -- Hey! Bullet!  The Easter Bunny is Here! 22:48, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

True.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 22:49, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

@58 Who cares about his activeness? Talk about when he is active. And, he is not inactive, he has been active for months. -- I Pity The Fool. - Mr.T 23:09, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

I also did my research and saw Genesjs made a good point about the admin numbers a few months ago. -- Hey! Bullet!  The Easter Bunny is Here! 23:12, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

So, then, what's going to happen here? Not trying to sound impatient, but things are moving kind of slowly for me. And it's not just this nomination.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 23:22, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I vote no because I do not want anymore admins. Besides that, you have been inactive more than you have been active. Be more active, do more work. Show your presence. I barely see you here.--58SlugDrones! 07:02, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

I cannot be more "active" if I have nothing to say. I cannot edit mainspace the majority of my time here, because I don't have any new information to give. I do talk a lot in blogs, depending on what they are about. The reason you hardly see my bursts of commentary is because you live in a different time zone than I. Thus, swarms of edits drown out my own edits.

I come here every day, however. I help out and interact with the community whenever I can. But what your asking for is an impossibility, as I need a lot of time in real life to deal with the many different events in my life.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 22:03, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

NO: Most of these reasons could be done by other admins, and i agree with User:58SlugDrones!. Sonicyay2 14:44, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Response: I did not say these things couldn't be done by other admins. In fact, that is why I offer my help. It could prove useful in the long run.

My lack of activity in the past is now irrelevant, as I am active now, and have been active for a few good months.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 08:04, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Genesjs (Adminship)
I fully believe that Genesjs has earned adminship. He has been here for nearly 2 years and his contributions are absolutely incredible. He helps out on a regular basis and deals with a large amount of vandals. His edit count is significant enough for adminship. He also has a good tendency to make the right decisions when it comes to dealing with vandals. He has the 10th most edits on the wiki and absolutely deserves the title of adminship. He has great grammar and helps categorize images and reverts edits by vandals. For all these reasons and more, I nominate Genesjs for Adminship.

 Hey! Bullet!  The Easter Bunny is Here! 01:57, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes: I've known him to have a large and positive impact on the wiki ever since i've been here. JaketheHedgehog 02:00, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes: I concur on these points. Although the edit count is irrelevant, I agree that he does indeed help out on a regular basis. And I have seen his work, dealing with vandals. I think he's got what it takes. He should be admin-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 04:20, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe-I'm not sure, you're a good user, but I'm not sure if we need more admins, if more people say yes, then consider my vote as such.  Myself 123  21:44, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes- I watched over him since he first joined this wikia. I'm very proud of the edits he made over the time he's been here. He seems more than worthy for adminship.-- Sonic &amp; Scrab  Master   Screw the rules, I have money!  02:45, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Neutral: I've seen Gen use adminship and bureaucracy powers, and I must say that he is not a perfect person; he has made what from my POV are mistakes. However, he has only ever had good intentions behind his actions, so... yeah. Also, we've got a few admins and nominees already.--Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 02:54, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yes - You've made some good points there, Bullet. I agree that Genesjs should be nominated for Adminship, he has been around to stop vandals from time to time, and helps well with the wiki. He does show kindness and patience towards other users, but is usually quite firm at the same time, and I think those are the best points towards being an Administrator. I'll have to give myself a 11:25, April 14, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

Yes: Genesjs has been gone for a while but in the time that he has been here, he is quite a remarkable user. He is mature, intellegent, self-sufficent, and makes quite alot of edits and reports trouble. He is ok on his own and dosen't need someone to hold his hand through everything. To sum everything up, Gen is a fantastic user (and a nice guy) -- '<font color="Crimson">Murphyshane - <font color="#00b6ee">Morph! He's alive! <font color="#C0C0C0">Don't click here '14:42, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe :I actually think we may have too many admins. Though I nominated you, it is the number that counts. I think only you or Akamia should be an admin for now. I don't want to favor anyone over the other, so I'll keep my vote as Maybe.-- Hey! Bullet!  The Easter Bunny is Here! 20:33, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

@Bullet: Are you sure that us having enough Admins is what you think, or what someone else thinks? Not that I'm against your change in vote, I just want you to be certain of what you wish to do. Phoenix the Cat The flames reborn....  21:52, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well I would like you to be an admin, but I'm thinking that the number of admins it too much. But I guess I will stick with Yes. I guess quoting Jake "The more admins, a safer wiki." And I don't really think you can have too much admins. I guess that I will change my vote for you, I may change my vote for Akamia, it depends, though.-- Hey! Bullet!  The Easter Bunny is Here! 00:02, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with you on the number of Admins thing, but hopefully after me and Akamia's elections we won't need anymore for a while. And if it helps you feel more certain, I actually plan on doing my regular edits while handling Administrative work (should I earn it), and I plan on editing almost every day when I can like how I have been doing as of late. I have no intention of letting any new responsibilities that are bestowed upon me interfere with my ability to work on other things around here. Phoenix the Cat The flames reborn....  04:13, April 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes: First of all, I don't appreciate admins who manipulate others into changing their vote, rather than coming out of their shell and just giving their OWN opinion. 58, I'm talking to you. If you have something to say, say it in your OWN vote, not someone else's. That is abuse of power. Secondly, since the day he showed up here, Genesjs has tried hard to do nothing but help this place out! He busted his a** trying to upload all that info about the Archie Sonic comics, and to this day, is still looking for something to be taken care of here! Anyone who says no, look at the guy! Check his contributions - not the quantity, but the quality! It's been over 2 years, give him some credit!! -- Shelly ' the ' Hedgehog Amy to Shelly.png I'm not a monkey! 15:51, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

I do not manipulate others into chaging their vote, thankyou very much. My opinion is individual.--58SlugDrones! 16:32, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Then why did you tell Bullet Francisco to change his vote? -- Shelly ' the ' Hedgehog  I'm not a monkey! 17:11, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

No: Unless there is any admin work that remains undone I will not agree with anyone's adminship. I see a good future for you. By future I mean not now. I see that everybody wants to be an admin, time by time someone has to show up, by the end of the day we will get everybody having the status of an admin. Normally, yes you are active. By seeing it I do not see a difference if your adminship is granted now, the only difference is that we will be loaded with admins. But I believe you have the most chances of being an admin, perhaps. But I still vote no.--58SlugDrones! 16:32, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be a GOOD thing to have lots of admins, as long as they're responsible and cooperative? -- Shelly ' the ' Hedgehog  I'm not a monkey! 17:11, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe: You are just not ready yet. The way you deal with some vandals is mean and that's not the way to do it. Like you dealed with User:9551. You were very mean to him, you told the people who were taking his side to "shut up", and when Murph said he can edit, you said to him "what the hell are you doing". But at least you are still dealing with the vandals. Just lower the harshness. Also, I like your mainspace edits, they are very useful. But, do we need more admins? We have 19 admins, and most of them are active. If we have too many admins, when offenders, vandals and bad users come to this wiki, they will look at the list of admins, and it is too big, then they will leave the wiki because there are too many admins. If this happens with every bad user, what's the point in admins? There are a few problems you need to fix up. You will probabaly be ready in a month. -- I Pity The Fool. - Mr.T 22:51, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

@Jet Actually, most vandals don't come here and look at the admins. There will still be a lot of vandals to deal with, as well as locking pages, blocking users, deleting pages. and other responsibilities, the more admins, the safer the wiki will be. -- Hey! Bullet!  The Easter Bunny is Here! 22:58, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

@Jet50: First of all Jet, I never told anyone to "shut up" when they were taking iLike's side. I told them they were being foolish because they were easily trusting a person who has a seriously bad reputation on this Wiki due to his Trolling and vandalising nature. And as for me asking Murphy "what the hell he was doing", I was doing just that. Asking him what the hell he was doing let a well-known vandal walk free among the Wiki when he should've banned him as soon as he appeared, and because of that the Wiki was put at risk. I only acted the way I did because I did not understand why someone, even an Admin, would let someone who's been known to cause nothing but trouble run amok on the site just because this same person claims that he's "changed". That's what he said the last time he got back on here, but his contributions said otherwise. And while there may be around 19 Admins total, how often are most of them active?

"If we have too many admins, when offenders, vandals and bad users come to this wiki, they will look at the list of admins, and it is too big, then they will leave the wiki because there are too many admins. If this happens with every bad user, what's the point in admins?"

There is more to Administrative work than you're giving credit for at the moment. Admins deal with more than just vandals, which is also technically every responsible Users' job aroud here, especially if they're regular contributers. Admins settle edit wars, merge debates, enforce good behavior from Users on the Wiki in order to keep a friendly atmosphere, discuss site matters such as rule proposals, content management, etc. There are plenty of things Admins can do besides dealing with a couple of people who decide to go around attempting to ruin pages, so even if we don't get any more "bad Users" Admins will ultimately still have things to do, myself included should I have Administrative privileges given to me. Phoenix the Cat The flames reborn....  04:56, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Somehow, I knew that event would come back and haunt your RfA.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 05:00, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

I fail to see why it even should, because technically I was only criticizing the people who were siding with iLike because they were refusing to do their job in banning him and trusting him despite his infamous reputation. From my POV, all I was doing was trying to reason with people and only got harsh when they weren't listening and putting the Wiki at risk. Last time I checked, a person who's been permanently banned and sockpuppets needs to be banned no matter what, but if I'm wrong than the criticism in Jet's vote is well deserved. However, IDT I'm wrong. Phoenix the Cat The flames reborn....  05:04, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Relax, my friend. I think you were in the right. But I see clearly why it was brought up here; The harshness itself. No matter how one tries to justify something, most people try to poke holes in it. It is going to happen.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 05:09, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

The whole reason why I acted harsh was because I was certain that the people in question who was dealing with iLike during this incident knew about him and his reputation, and from what I could see they did. So seeing them let him go regardless of this knowledge is what set me off, because it's well known that iLike is a serious liar and it was shocking to me to see even an Admin set him lose when he should've banned him. I even went to the trouble to tell these people why I was getting angry with them over this, so it's not like I didn't just go off at them without trying to tell them what I thought they were doing wrong, I was trying to make them listen to common sense not as a fellow User but as a friend and acquiantence. I'm normally much better at keeping my cool than that though, and I'll admit that maybe I did acted a little too harsh, but I had good faith and that's the argument I plan on sticking by. However, it's not like I don't learn from my mistakes either, so the chances of me losing my cool like that are very unlikely to happen again. Phoenix the Cat The flames reborn....  05:16, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Very well. But you don't have to justify it to me. I already know what it was all about. I was there. :P-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 05:26, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

I know, but I'm doing so for everyone else who's watching this nomination so they can get a better idea as to what the situation was about and my motivations during it. Besides, like I said, I normally don't lose my temper easily, so chances are I won't snap that easily again anyway. Phoenix the Cat The flames reborn....  05:29, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

@Jet: I don't remember Gen saying "What the hell are you doing" I remember he was upset, but he never said that -- '<font color="Crimson">Murphyshane - <font color="#00b6ee">Morph! He's alive! <font color="#C0C0C0">Don't click here '13:07, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Not to sound impatient or anything, but its been almost 3 weeks now since this nomination was posted, and no one else has posted on this in more than a week now. I have a total of 7 votes for yes, 4 votes for neutral (if you count Myself123's vote as still a "maybe"), and only a single vote for "no". From what I can see I have at least 3 votes in my favor for promotion. If at all possible I would like to know what is going to be decided on this nomination now so we can finally bring this thing to a close. Phoenix the Cat The flames reborn....  15:17, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. Also, what about the new format? --<font color="Purple">Bullet Francisco <font color="Green">Don't Be a Jerk to the Bullet!  19:04, May 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Three weeks? Didn't you see how long it took for Admiral and Murphyshane to push through their nominations? Anyway, looking at it all, I thing there's general approval. The single 'no' vote reads more like a 'neutral' vote with respect to you personally. That said, I'm going to leave this open for a while longer. If anyone would actively object to Genesjs becoming an admin, please say so now. -- Supermorff 19:54, May 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * If memory isn't playing tricks on me again, I think that it took the both of them at least 1-2+ months longer for their nominations to end? I didn't remember clearly because other things have been grabbing my attention, but you have my apologies for not bothering to look this over. Phoenix the Cat  The flames reborn....  22:27, May 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes: Great user. I've looked at his contributions, and this guy has got quite the skill. He's wise, has nice sensable mainspace edits, and he doesn't fool around. He earned the rollback position, and now he's good for an admin. -- Secret Agent Flynn 01:24, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes: Great user. I've looked at his contributions, and this guy has got quite the skill. He's wise, has nice sensable mainspace edits, and he doesn't fool around. He earned the rollback position, and now he's good for an admin. -- Secret Agent Flynn 01:24, May 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * How would you know any of my behaviors or "wisdom"? You just met me, so I don't really see any logical reason for you to vote yes for me, and the fact that you're new around here won't really help your vote either. Perhaps you should look at our rules before making any further posts on pages like this. Phoenix the Cat  The flames reborn....  01:30, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

No: I'm sorry. I still won't agree. And Supermorff is right, Leviathan and Murphyshane waited for several months. I, myself, never even nominated for myself. I had to be nominated 3 times: once my Murphyshane and twice by DiscoDuck. And do you know how long that took? It took me like 6 months to become an admin. And, it was really difficult to earn votes unless I stayed and replied to every single vote. Being an admin isn't as easy as you think. I do not see a difference in you becoming an admin other than having a load-full of admins. The more admins we get, the more others will want to admins, by the end of the day we will get every user as an admin. I do not want that. Very big wikis like the Pro-Wrestling Wiki has only like 4 admins. And you know what? The wiki is perfect, note that it is alot larger than this wiki. This wiki going good with the admins we have now, there is no need for more admins. You think that if we have a load-full of admins, the wiki will be better, right? No. Not everyone can get a high status here. You want to become to an admin for your own benefit. Is that any benefit for this site? No. I do not want anymore admins. No matter what.--58SlugDrones! 06:59, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

58, did you even bother to look at how long ago I previously asked if a final decision could be made on this nomination? Over a month. I don't think it is necessary for you to bring this up, especially considering the fact that I even acknowledged that I remembered that it took longer for Admiral and Murphy to get promoted in a previous comment. Also, I'll be honest with you in saying that I'm beginning to get irritated that you still don't seem to think that I don't take Adminship seriously, when in reality I do. I'm also getting irritated that you seem to think that I only want a promotion for only my own benefit, because it's downright ignorant to assume something like that about someone when you haven't even shown any evidence that can support such claims. All I see you doing right now is trying to make me out to be some self-serving User who could care less about the Wiki as a whole, simply because you don't want any more Users to be promoted to an Administrative position, and I think that it is highly unfair for you to do that to someone regardless of your own personal opinions. Phoenix the Cat The flames reborn....  07:12, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Look, I see that you are disturbed by how I vote no. I knew you would be. Your message disturbed me as well. That's fair. Where is the benefit in having a load-full of admins when the wiki is running fine? Calling me ignorant won't help, it's just rude.--58SlugDrones! 07:24, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not disturbed, just insulted. Also, I didn't call you ignorant, I said that assuming something about someone with little to no evidencce is ignorant. And the number of present Admins should have no effect on how I should be able to do my job, or anyone else's for that matter. The goal for most people who want to help out here is to do just that: help out. I myself could care less how we get things done around here just as long as it still works and there aren't any serious problems. Phoenix the Cat The flames reborn....  07:28, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

You just told me you were irritated by how I think of your nomination and you said that it is ignorant of me to come with something that has little evidence. I don't need evidence, you do. I am just here to vote, and you are here to prove yourself worthy to change my vote. If you say that you want to help out, then that is why every user is here, they want to help out and that doesn't mean everyone else will have to be an admin.--58SlugDrones! 07:37, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

I do have evidence. You stated in a previous comment that I'm only out for myself and not the Wiki and that I don't take the position seriously, but did nothing to prove such claims. Since I know I can't, or don't even want to change your vote, then why don't we both just agree to disagree. You already stated your opinions more than once, and I have stated my responses to each of them, so why don't we save ourselves some headaches and just drop it? Phoenix the Cat The flames reborn....  07:47, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I vote no. That's final. Even if you do become admin, I won't disturb you. Like, I voted no for Lev's nomination, but then he came to the status of an admin but I didn't disturb him.--58SlugDrones! 07:50, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Alrighty, glad we got that out of the way. Anyway, glad to have you back. I hope your exams went well. Phoenix the Cat The flames reborn....  07:52, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Alter the Wolf <font color="#8A2BE2">Protector of Chaos  (Rollback)
I nominate myself for rollback position for the following reasons:

I am experienced: I have been a member of this wiki for almost a year now, and I have learned a lot about editing pages and properly setting up an article. An example of my work is the Lee Brotherton page. I completely updated that page all by myself and still to this day keep it updated with all of his latest albums, gigs, and events, which has inspired me to create the Bentley Jones Wiki, where I can truly put the knowledge that I gained here to the test. I am also helping out at multiple other wikis, but I am usually found here the most.

I am ALWAYS on here: Even if you don't see me editing, I am literally always on here (aside from when I'm at school or sleeping) monitoring, contributing, and doing my absolute best to keep SNN safe from vandals. If I get a message on my talk page while I am away, I am able to respond very quickly because my iPod alerts me immediately every time my talk page and any other page I'm following is edited, giving me a true connection to this wiki that will not alter. With a connection like this, I am truly beneficial to this wiki.

I am very friendly and will help anyone in need without question: I'm not going to lie to you, when I first joined SNN, I was very distant from everyone and preferred to just focus on improving SNN. That all changed after I met Amyroselove. She became my first friend on this wiki, and she may not know this but she also helped me to open up a bit. Because of her, I began to meet many people on here and some even came to me for help such as Spanishechidna, Goldenguy511, and Syber The Hedgehog, to name a few.

Yes!: DarkFuture definitely deserves this position. He has drastically improved the music pages on the wiki and i have seen all of his work. I truly believe he is ready for Rollback. JaketheHedgehog 16:43, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yes. Though he has had his share of mistakes, many of his edit benefit the wiki, he has about 600 mainspace edits, that is more than enough for him to become a rollback. He deserves the position.--<font color="Purple">Bullet Francisco <font color="Green">Don't Be a Jerk to the Bullet! 16:48, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks you guys! Alter the Wolf  <font color="#8A2BE2">Protector of Chaos   16:51, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

YES. DarkFuture definately desrves this position. He has always been there for this wiki, helping to stop vandals, and correcting mistakes made on the pages. Sure, he has made mistakes from time to time, but don't we all? He definately is in deserving of this promotion. Syber The Hedgehog 17:04, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

'YES. 'Only if he slaps himself.Nah im joking,but yes Alter deserves the spot.He is always on,he's always dong his best,and he also has delt with some vandals in the past months!

The Supreme,Fly the Fox! 17:13, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks so much! Alter the Wolf  <font color="#8A2BE2">Protector of Chaos   18:41, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Does Fly's vote count? --<font color="Purple">Bullet Francisco <font color="Green">Don't Be a Jerk to the Bullet! 23:09, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yes: Dark Future definitely deserves this position! he is a pro at editing. he is Awesome at stoping vandals. he knows A LOT about Lee Brotherton! I remember before I was a member of this Wiki or any Wiki (I used this Wiki for drawing Sonic the Hedgehog Characters on Sketch Star.) I seen him editing Lee Brotherton page a lot and editing other pages. he is also Awesome to talk to. he is a very Funny, friendly, nice, kind, & AWESOME person! and he is my best friend! ^_^ (Amyroselove 04:14, May 2, 2011 (UTC))

The first sentence was a good reason, but I don't think him being funny or knowing anything about Lee has anything to do with being a rollback. XD --<font color="Purple">Bullet Francisco <font color="Green">Don't Be a Jerk to the Bullet! 19:23, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yes: You bet your future I will vote for you! Your a good user, @DarkFuture and have a lot of experience of editing and showing us users a good time. I also love your friendships with others as well. Candy the Rabbit-   I Love Candy!  00:09, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

This may be s lot of votes, but so far only your friends have voted...--<font color="Purple">Bullet Francisco <font color="Green">Don't Be a Jerk to the Bullet! 20:51, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Absolutely: Your edits have been entirely helpful to this wiki, you deserve this small promotion. 02:51, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Everyone, thank you so much for this support. It really means a lot to me. Alter the Wolf  <font color="#8A2BE2">Protector of Chaos   21:07, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

It's up to Supermorff, but I think this nomination should come to a close. -- <font style = "background:black"> B u l  l  ε  t   <font style = "background:black"> (No vandals)  <span style="border-bottom:1px dotted; padding:4px; cursor:help; "color:#00FFFF" title="?"> ( Don't be A <span style="color:#1BC937;" title="If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.">Jerk ) 20:34, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Yes: You have proven yourself fit for the job.--58SlugDrones! 06:47, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Katrins (Rollback)
I'm nominating Katrins for rollback for several reasons. Katrins is a very friendly, kind, and caring person, she reverts many edits by vandals. Also, Katrins has been around for nearly 2 years. Thats more than enough to be nominated for rollback. She also cares deeply about her wiki, and is always working to improve it. Katrins, in my opinion, is more than qualified for rollback. -- <font style = "background:black"> B u l  l  ε  t   <font style = "background:black"> (No vandals)  <span style="border-bottom:1px dotted; padding:4px; cursor:help; "color:#00FFFF" title="?"> ( Don't be A <span style="color:#1BC937;" title="If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.">Jerk ) 02:07, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Yes! Katrins is an excellent candidate. She deserves it. Additionally, she is awake when everyone here in the U.S. is asleep. <font color="Red">Jake the Hedgehog <font color="Black">That's Just How I Roll! 02:35, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks you two ^^ Mikee the Echidna Speed is Everything!  02:54, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yes: Never really spoken to her, but she's done a good job, and no-one's ever had any real problem with her. I don't see why she shouldn't get this privelage.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 03:22, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yes: I think you have enough potential to be a Rollback now. You do a lot to make sure that everything is okay with he content, especially when most of everyone else is probably asleep. I wouldn't mind seeing how you use Rollback privileges. Phoenix the Cat The flames reborn....  05:02, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yes: There is nothing to disagree with. You'll be perfect.--58SlugDrones! 06:45, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you guys ^^ Mikee the Echidna Speed is Everything!  07:19, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yes: I've seen you do plenty of stuff to help the wiki (editing pages and stopping vandals) and I have to go with yes! Candy the Rabbit-   I Love Candy!  00:00, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Bunny ^^ Mikee the Echidna Speed is Everything!  04:25, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

SalaComMander (Adminship)
I swore I would never nominate myself for anything ever again, but...

I revert many edits by vandals, often when very few or no other users are here. I've been here for almost two years, now. I have more mainspace edits than the Admiral or even Shelly. I added all the music videos for every Sonic Underground song twice (something not really impressive, but I'm proud of it).

I know I have many flaws, and I know you guys know it, too, but I feel as if I'm deserving of this.

-<font color="#000000">SalaComMander 18:52, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe: You are with out a doubt an experienced user and look like you could do some great stuff as an admin. But i've never been big on your attitude towards other users. I don't want another S&SM on the wiki (No Offense S&SM). If i see a change in attitude then it's a definite yes but not yet. <font color="Red">Jake the Hedgehog <font color="Black">That's Just How I Roll! 19:05, June 12, 2011(UTC)

No: You really need to change your attitude toward other users, when I was a new user, you sorta intimidated me, and to new users you probably seem that way too. I'd also like to see more edits and activity other than on blogs.--

Plus your not even a rollback!--

Bullet, I would again like to point out that I have more mainspace edits than the Admiral or Shelley, so I don't think my activity is a problem. Did you know Shelley was one of our Bureaucrats and she doesn't even have 1,000 mainspace edits?

-<font color="#000000">SalaComMander 07:13, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Well, before now, SLJ and FFF (if I understand right) were drifting away from the wiki, when SLJ was getting ready to leave, he was worried and thought the wiki needed more crats. Shelly, and Kagi were nominated for adminship, they voted for each other, then Shelly became a 'crat. I understand she became a 'crat because SLJ was worried, also Kagi was FFF's nomination for 'crat, Kagi turned it down, saying Shelly would be a better choice, so Shelly ultimately became a 'crat. That's the best I can do to sum it up. look here: Forum:New Admins and Bureaucrat for why Shelly was made a 'crat. My vote remains a no.--

I didn't expect to change your vote. I was just saying that one of your reasons for saying no wasn't a reason at all. Plus, I'm more surprised that I've gotten a "yeah" and a "maybe" than a "no". I came into this expecting failure, but hoping for success.

-<font color="#000000">SalaComMander 17:26, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes!: Yes!! Gawd I can't believe you're not an admin yet, you'll do great being an Admin Mikee the Echidna Speed is Everything!  11:06, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

No: I'm with Bullet on this one. You show a rude and intimidating behavior to new users especially on blogs which I am not okay with at all and you need more mainspace edits, it should be hitting around 3,000 to satisfy me.--58SlugDrones! 04:35, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

No: I pretty much agree with both Bullet and 58. While I think that you have a decent level of knowledge and common sense, your behavior on here is lacking and I'm not sure if you're ready for a promotion to such a high-ranking position. If you work on your behavior and do a little more editing to mainspace, then I may reconsider my vote. Lloyd the Cat "I hog that hedgehate!"  04:43, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, and I thought my mainspace edits were the least of my problems. It certainly didn't hinder other admins. You also all seem to be generalizing too much. You act as if I find all the new users and start terrorizing them out of sheer enjoyment. But you people have seen what Jakethedude was capable of, you all know how immature Multiverseman is, and MetalShadow broke rules. Naturally, nobody does anything about these guys, and the story always ends up the same. I get scolded for "being mean", then everyone discovers what I knew all along, and everyone acts like I did nothing to contribute.

-<font color="#000000">SalaComMander 05:08, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

"You also all seem to be generalizing too much. You act as if I find all the new users and start terrorizing them out of sheer enjoyment."

I don't, it's just that the amount of complaints that I'm seeing you get won't help your nomination, regardless of what happened when anyway. Think for a minute: Would you think that the ideal Admin nominee is someone who is never complained about to other Admins? Or someone who, as of late, has been told to others that he's being antagonistic towards them? What would you expect people to think of the latter?

"But you people have seen what Jakethedude was capable of, you all know how immature Multiverseman is, and MetalShadow broke rules. Naturally, nobody does anything about these guys, and the story always ends up the same."

Then why don't you just tell the Admins to take a closer look at what these people are doing if you feel that they aren't doing their job correctly?

"I get scolded for "being mean", then everyone discovers what I knew all along, and everyone acts like I did nothing to contribute."

I, at the very least, never said that you don't contribute to the site in anyway, so I fail to see how I fit with "everyone" in this matter.

The only real reason I'm saying no is because of what's been going on with you and several other users, my vote has nothing to do on your capabilities. If your relations with other people become more stable, then I may reconsider my vote in a future nomination, but as of right now I don't see this nomination succeeding under the current circumstances. All I came here to do was simply vote and state my reasons why I chose to vote the way I did, nothing more. And my criticisms are rather small, so I don't see why this should be too much of an issue. Lloyd the Cat "I hog that hedgehate!"  05:56, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

"Then why don't you just tell the Admins to take a closer look at what these people are doing if you feel that they aren't doing their job correctly?"

I always tell the admins when I think someone is acting inappropriately. I reported Jakethedude on several occasions, Multiverseman never needed reporting because of how much attention he draws to himself, and I reported MetalShadow to Murphyshane (on dA), but he decided now was a good time to take a break.

-<font color="#000000">SalaComMander 19:08, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Sala, reporting users isn't a step towards adminship. You seriously lack mainspace edits and your behavior towards others is honestly not kind at all. You need to do alot more in my opinion.--58SlugDrones! 15:21, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Listen, I can take the rejection, but don't lie to me about why I'm being rejected. My mainspace editing is not the issue here, and you know it.

-<font color="#000000">SalaComMander 00:43, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

OBJETCION! We don't need him running the wiki! He'll ban all the admins, make himself supreme and ban anyone who disagrees with him! Neo-Sonic Hedgehog 00:45, July 9, 2011 (UTC)