Talk:Sonic News Network

Trivia Pages
ok, heres a strange idea that i've come up with. i've seen a few users who have rants about the characters' trivia getting erased. and we tell them to stop, because we dont need the trivia filling up the whole character page, right? well why don't we make a seperate page for each characters' trivia (exept with the characters who dont have much trivia to begin with)? we just leave some trivia on the character's page, then give a link to the trivia page to see more. any agreements or objections? Midnight Wolf  Don't be hatin'!  23:58, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

That might be a bit of a problem, because we would have to create a bigger list of links on Mainspace, and I don't think that there is really too much trivia to begin with. I think that the Articles should stay as they are because the amount of trivia that each article has isn't too great.... Genesjs 00:01, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

well, even before i signed up here, there was tons of unique trivia, but it did take up the whole page. i'm just saying, lets let the others decide Midnight Wolf  Don't be hatin'!  00:04, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

I hardly gave your idea any thought when I first saw it (Because I was in a hurry to write an opinion down, and I was trying to see if what problems might arise if we made seperate pages. I'm sorry I didn't think about your idea long enough to see it's benefits the first time....-_-'), so I thought about your idea some more, and I think that creating seperate pages for each characters' trivia might actually be a good idea, because it would actually be easier to keep track and manage the information placed in each characters' trivia. If seperate pages for characters' trivia are created, it would allow the characters' normal pages to have more free space, so more non-trivial information about the characters can be written in them. This would allow both users and visiters can have access to additional information about the characters they wish to view on the Wiki. I am going to say "yes" to your suggestion, Sunny. Genesjs 02:19, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Chaos from Sonic Adventure in Sonic X-treme?!
Ok I found some cool info here it is-

for more info look at http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_X-treme_storylines

Chaos & the DoomVirus

For thousands of years the "ChaosDoom," or Element Legion lay trapped, suspended in a state of lonely silence within the Master Chaos Emerald, watching seasons in the outside worlds come and go, generations birth and die.

Dr. Ivo Robotnik, convinced there was some ultimate power within, succeeded in breaking the Emerald, providing a long-awaited exit for the ChaosDoom. No longer trapped, they waste no time in spreading their evil throughout Mobius and its surrounding dimensions.

Initially (and in this game) though, all that takes affect is the DoomVirus, the poisonous atmosphere suitable only for the ChaosDoom. Any living creature coming in contact with the atmospheric rays of the broken Master Emerald fall into sickness, and eventually wither sway- Unless the Cure is found in time.

Robots and creatures made of Metal, Stone or Wood are controlled by and serve as initial hosts for the ChaosDoom. Even Robotnik's Boss Robots do their bidding. All of these machines are bent on destroying Sonic, for he alone poses a threat to ChaosDoom.

ChaosDoom's main problem is that in order to fully escape the clutches of the Master Chaos Emerald, they need TIME. Not a subscription to the magazine, but maybe a year to fully develop outside of their "egg."

To the ChaosDoom, the longer Sonic can be delayed or even eliminated the more time they have to develop. Protecting the Acts with robots and the Cure Items with big, huge and nasty Bosses will hopefully accomplish this.--S_U_F 19:05, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

Upcoming Products
Can somebaody update are Upcoming Products Comic list now cause you're only showing Comics 203#-206# and Universe #7-#9. So now i think it should show Sonic the Hedgehog issues 207#-209# & Sonic Universe 10#-13# asits Upcoming Comics of Now.

Rob O' the Hedge's Age?
Does anybody know how old Rob is? SEGA Fan BOSS 11:16, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

I dunno, this would be better suited on his talk page.  Myself  123  22:08, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Christmas pic
I think it would look better if it was centred. Just running it by before I changed it.  Myself  123  22:11, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

GACF checking in 12/12/09
Hey guys. I haven't been here in a while. It wouldn't let me log in for some reason. Oh well. Hey, guess what. In about three or four years, you guys might have some competition. I just recently upgraded to a full wiki site. It's called "Galactic Alliance Classified Files: The Federation Encyclopedia". I finally figured out how to upgrade to a separate wiki. Scratchpad seemed a little amateur-ish after almost a whole year. I'm trying to transfer everything from my scratchpad wiki to the federation encyclopedia. Last night I transferred three articles and I'm getting on now to do some more as well. Check it out sometime at federationencyclopedia.wikia.com. Hellspawn Shadow is the featured image at the home page as of now. The image is given credit to Fission07 on Deviant Art. I'd like to see you there. Most of it, believe it or not, is about Sonic the Hedgehog, if you don't already know.

User safety
Due to a sudden increase of vandals occuring on this Wiki, I have begun to question whether or not some jerk on the web is leading all of these troublemakers here. One incident of vandalism, in particular, involves one someone vandalising A certain User's User page by changing a comment that User has made into something extremely inappropriate and insulting, and when I saw the edit that jerk has made to this other User's User page, I literally snapped and gave this guy a peice of my mind. So after this incident was taken care of, I have begun to form some theories as to why this User has been attacked by these vandals more than anyone else recently, and I have come up with a theory as to why this has been happening recently. I think that the list of Featured Users that can be accessed in the white box at the very top of the upper left corner of each web page on this Wiki is one of the possible causes. Having a list of Featured Users available to anyone, User or not, could be giving these vandals a list of targets (Users) to attack when they decide to join the SNN. Having Featured User interviews posted the the SNN' home page might have something to do with it to, because all a person would have to do is simply scroll down the page and they will see any interviews of any Users posted there, and the vandals can use them to find out more about that person, so they could be tempted to go attack that person first before they do the other Users. So in other words, I think that the reason that we have had our User pages tampered with a lot by vandals recently is because we are basically putting ourselves up for target practice by posted our Featured User interviews on here and putting a link to a list of Featured Users at the upper left corner (at the very top) of every single web page that we have here, you can see the tag "Featured Users" with an arrow pointing to the right right next to it, you can't really miss it (It's below the search window). Anyway, I can up with a few ideas, but here's one of them: Why don't we move our Featured User's interviews to a more secure location on another page that I, myself, would create, and this Wiki would only be accessible to ong time members of the SNN, or Users from other Wikis that gain our trust, and put all our future Featured User interviews there? That way, no future vandalizers would be able to get information about our Featured Users before they join our Wiki, and they would have trouble picking out what they believe would be a first good target (Users. In other words, us). Making the list of Featured User available to Users only might help too, because the list can be easily accessed from the little white box that has the search window in it (again, it's at the upper left corner of the home page, all the way at the top. It's the white box that stands against the blur background of this Wiki), and having that list available only to Users will make anyone that isn't a User and only wants to join our Wiki to cause us trouble will have that much a harder time figuring out who they should attack first. Doing this might help our protection from vandalizers increase dramatically, if not just a little bit. I know that we can undo any edits that vandals make to our User pages, but I think that everyone would agree with me that we all want to protect our User pages from vandalizers at almost any cost, and I think that doing these things might help protect us, even if it only keep the level of vandals to our User pages to a minimum. Besides, like I just said, the sudden increase in the appearance of vandalizers has me worried... Anyway, that's one of my ideas on what we could do to improve User safety around here (I think, but that's why I wanted to have this dicussion with all of you, so we can figure out something that might work). As I said, I have already thought up a few more ideas, but I want to hear a few your opinions about this issue first, before I suggest them. Anyway, if any of you agree with my idea, then please comment. If not, then could some of you please find some way to take some time out of your schedules and discuss this issue with me and tell me what you think we could, or should do to help improve User safety on here in some other way that might possibly work? Please comment, I really want us to be safe from all the jerks on the web, and I want to find some way to stop those people from vandalizing our User pages too. I'm open to any of your ideas, but please try to think about this issue carefully before you say anything, because I think that this is something serious, and we all need to really think about our ideas and comments before we mention them. Anyway, any comments? Genesjs 02:54, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

you've got a point, but we dont need to create a whole Wiki for it. we just need to make a super secret page (that i guess aint so secret now), that only long time users know about Midnight Wolf  Don't be hatin'!  02:54, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Well, I don't think this would be neccessary. No matter what a vandal does, it can be undone just as easily, and the vandal banned.--Kagi mizu -Seeya  'round ~ 02:56, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, then let me change the "Wiki" thing into a "page" then, because I was more or less talking about something like that anyway ^_^' Genesjs 02:57, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

I think what we really need is to figure out how many new users there are on the Wiki, so each of us can keep an eye one a specific user and see the edits they do. And also, I'd like to point something out: Just yesterday, Another fellow user had his userpage vandalised (he had one of his polls removed) by NNewt84, who has been banned for approx. one week. So, it's not just the admins, beaurecrats and rollbacks being targeted. It's certain users being randomly selected. -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog  I'm not a monkey!  03:12, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Guys, you're making too much out of this. Like I said, absolutely any damage done can be undone in a snap, and the vandal blocked just as easily. Really, what can a vandal do that can't be undone or deleted?--Kagi mizu -Seeya  'round ~ 03:22, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

I see. Well, then we have to find a way to protect everyones User pages then. What if we all put locks on our User pages? That way, only we can edit them, and no one who isn't an admin or burecrat would be able to edit them; only we could edit our User pages. Genesjs 03:25, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Well, that might not be so perfect. There are a lot of user pages that would have to be locked, and what if a User had to use an IP address for some reason?--Kagi mizu -Seeya  'round ~ 03:27, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Why would they want to use an IP address? Genesjs 03:28, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Hey, you never know.--Kagi mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 03:36, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

IPs can be of use every now and then, you know. And also, what if we blocked a new user's userpage? Then they couldn't edit it at all! You gotta make a couple edits before you're no longer counted as a new user. In the past week, we've had to ban 3 vandals, and there's probably more on the way! I think Gen is right, some mastermind may be advertising SNN to neanderthals over the web. -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog  I'm not a monkey!  03:45, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, well there are a lot of users that might wanna mess with others. Chaotics Guy, Launchballer, Supremelifeform42; those are just the guys I've probably ticked off! Not to mention iLike. The point is, with every good User or IP that comes along, there are bound to be bad Users and IPs.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 03:52, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

I think I might know where some of these guys are comming from. I remember seeing a comment on a certain video on YouTube. And in this persons comment, he/she mentions "Sonic Wikia". So I think that some of these people are coming from YouTube, or some other places, because i'm pretty sure that there is at least a few million people who hate Sonic, and would go out of their way to vandalize anything relating to Sonic that they might know about, which could include Wikis too. So yeah, it's very well possible that someone might be leading these people here and mentioning to them about us. Genesjs 03:53, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but those same advertizements could be leading good Users here. Look, there's no way for us to completely stop vandalism from happening. The only thing we can do is keep an eye out for it and revert vandalism when we see it. Pure and simple.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 04:00, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but i'm sure that a lot of good Users on here would want to keep vandalism from occuring on their User pages at all. So maybe we should just allow everyone to put locks on their User pages, allow Users to edit them themselves, without the fear of anyone tampering with their work or information. Genesjs 04:04, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

I'd have to advise against locking up everyone's pages. Because only admins/beaurecrats can lock up pages. We can't lock them so that only registered users can edit them, because the last 3 vandals here were registered users! And, of course, we can't only lock them so that admins can edit. -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog  I'm not a monkey!  05:50, December 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * I have a few comments: first, my name is top of the feature user list on the top-left box and it has not led to my user page being vandalised. Second, if the featured user poll is not on the front page it becomes meaningless - it's to advertise the good work of our users and make the site feel more like a community. For that it needs to be highly visible. Third, if Sunny is being targeted for no reason this month, then the featured user item on the Main Page could well be connected. Fourth, Genesjs, I can protect your user page for you right now if you want, but then you wouldn't be able to edit it. There is no way to allow some users to edit while others cannot. -- Supermorff 20:24, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * In fact, I just agree with Kagimizu. Vandals can't do anything that can't be reverted. You can't protect all pages and you can't block all new users. The only viable measure is to revert vandalism as it occurs and block the offenders as appropriate. -- Supermorff 20:24, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Well, it's been quite a while since anyone has discussed this issue so, if there is anything left to talk about, then I'll be open to any new suggestions that anyone might have, because I am oficially starting to run out of ideas.... I will listen to any ideas that you have in mind. Phoenix the Cat 05:18, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Sonic Riders/Zero Grav Canon?
I've heard that most spin-off series aren't official. Is the Sonic Riders series canon to the main series? SEGA Fan BOSS 00:13, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

No, that game is a racing spin-off. -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog  I'm not a monkey!  00:52, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

How is it a spin-off?

Well, Sonic Riders had different gameplay from that of a typical Sonic game. It was just you controlling a character and racing to either the finish line or a certain number of laps. -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog  I'm not a monkey!  03:09, December 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * It is a spin-off, because of its vastly different gameplay, but I have seen nothing to suggest that it is not also canon. But then, canon is subjective, so it could be argued eitherway. -- Supermorff 17:00, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Buns>Anti-Bunnie
Since Bunnie's counterpart isn't Anti-bunnie anymore, we should move it to Buns Rabbot, and that's what I did. SEGA Fan BOSS 18:56, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Edit Pages
I don't like the new edit pages. I like how it looks, but it's so hard to make proper edits and respond to talk pages. When I have to go to the bottom, I have to scroll down manually instead of just clicking on where I want to go. Can you guys change it back? Sonic & Scrab  Master


 * I have no idea what you mean. My edit pages haven't changed. Check your preferences, because there's probably a way to change back in there. -- Supermorff 14:03, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Comics
Just thought I'd mention, we really need to start writing articles on all the various Sonic comics out there.--Shadow34 21:29, January 18, 2010 (UTC)Shadow34