Board Thread:Administrator Notice/@comment-1669199-20140104230141/@comment-1669199-20140111221228

MoonMoonTheWolf wrote: Genesjs wrote:

MoonMoonTheWolf wrote:

Genesjs wrote:

"PG-13" applies to the general age group for teenage audiences (ages 13 to 16. Mature ratings start from 17 years and up). I don't recall ever seeing a Teen/PG-13 Sonic game/movie/TV show/etc. ever being made and given such ratings. Even Shadow the Hedgehog was an E-10+ game, despite some of the content that game possessed. So let me ask you this: What does created media with PG-13 ratings have to do with the Sonic series, and why should we care about those higher-rated media when they haven't been shown to have any impact on the Sonic series' general ratings? Becuase 13 is the minimum age to be allowed to have an account here, so at that age and beyond the average User should be expected to be responsible with the use of the language spread through other forms of their media (which they already are expected of, even though they sometimes use whatever language they like). This is what I have been saying already. My point in saying this is that in Chat, it would be considered harsh to have strict rules on use of such minor words, as long as they are used appropriately (e.g. not to insult).

It isn't really related directly to the Sonic series; neither are many of the subjects discussed in the Chat.

Thank you for your acknowledging your mistake about the personal attack earlier. Yes, the Internet Child Protection Act requires that a person be at least 13 years of age to surf the web/join websites without adult supervision, but it still does not change the fact that this Wiki does not cover any established PG-13 material (again, if I'm wrong, please list an example so I won't continue to make any mistakes on this issue). Even if they need to be 13 in order to join, most people should still be able to reasonably assume that Sonic the Hedgehog is a franchise that's unlikely to have anything that rates higher than an E-10+ game or a PG-rated movie or TV show (again, even Shadow the Hedgehog, arguably the most "hardcore" official Sonic game in existence, was an E-10+ game. Just barely managed to not land itself a Teen rating), so as far as the viewers should be concerned we're a site that covers a relatively harmless franchise about a blue hedgehog that runs faster than a rocket and seems to almost-exclusively eat Chili Dogs (as of late) that chases a fat, mad genius that is narcissistic enough to probably put his own face on even his own personal toiletries.

So? We shouldn't limit ourselves to only talking about Sonic just because we're a Sonic Wiki. When I was asking about what kind of relationship does PG-13 content have with the Sonic series, I was talking about that in a literal sense. Again, last I checked we haven't seen any PG-13 Sonic material ever made/licensed by SEGA, and Sonic is generally considered a children's franchise, so even if the ICPA requires children be at least 13 before joining/browsing a site without adult supervision, just what should anyone be afraid of them coming across here besides what we, the Users, could be saying to each other?

Once again, you have completely missed my point and you seem to have potentially forgotten what this thread that you started is about: Chat.

You have to be at least 13 to have an account here, and you have to have an account to get into the Chat room. (based on me attempting to enter while logged out. You can also sign in with Facebook, but Facebook's minimum age is also 13 so this doesn't make a difference.) So, anyone under that age who is only supposed to be able to view the other wiki content would not be able to view the Chat anyway, and would therefore not be able to see the type of vocabulary that may be used there.

It is the actual content of the wiki pages and forums that has to be suitable for the lowest possible age group that the wiki's subject, because they are open for anyone to be able to view. But the topic of this thread happens to be Chat, so that is what we are supposed to be discussing.

I can assure you I haven't forgotten that this issue is primarily about the chat. I was merely responding to arguments you've been making, and to me it sounded like you were not just talking about the chat but language/content usage for society at large as well, so I responded in kind. I don't think I've missed anything.