Sonic News Network:Requests for User Rights/CesarTeamHYRO (Rollback Demotion)

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CesarTeamHYRO (Demotion) CesarTeamHYRO (talk): Contributions Edit Count

Cesar hardly even contributes this Wiki, about 95% of his edits come from his Art and Blogs, he also power-hungry as seen in his user page, sorry Cesar, I'm not implying that you are a bad user, but I don't think you should be rollback. Pacmansonic138 (talk) 18:51, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

Support
VOTING IS NOW CLOSED
 * 1) As the poster. Pacmansonic138 (talk) 18:51, August 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) Don't get me wrong; Cesar is a nice guy. But he does tend to rub his art in front of other user's faces. Especially ones who have made their OWN art. He brags about his art, and of what I saw, the most edits he does are on talk pages and/or blogs.BlueSpeeder (talk) 19:02, August 22, 2012 (UTC)BlueSpeeder-2:02PM-8/22/12
 * 3) The way you are acting on chat is making me support again.  We all  have our own   styles we   won't change  22:32, August 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) Per Pac, Blue, and Spyro. These guys basically summed up what I would say. And how Cesar acted on the chat didn't really help change my mind. Sorry, Cesar. <span style="; -webkit-border-radius-topleft:12px; -webkit-border-radius-bottomright:12px; -o-border-radius-topleft:12px; -o-border-radius-bottomright:12px; -khtml-border-radius-topleft:12px; -khtml-border-radius-bottomright:12px; border:4px ridge blue; background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(top, orange, red); background-image:-webkit-linear-gradient(top, orange, red); background-image:-o-linear-gradient(top, orange, red); background-image:-khtml-linear-gradient(top, orange, red); background-image:linear-gradient(top, orange, red); -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em #000000; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em #000000; -o-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em #000000; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em #000000; background-color:#000000"> Metal ' Mickey ' 272   22:56, August 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * 5) I'm going to have to support. Cesar hasn't done very many edits lately, To Be Honest. Pac also gave some good reasons as well...--- 23:03, August 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * 6) I'm afraid I have to support this. The way Cesar acts sometimes show great immaturity. He often breaks rules on chat, and doesn't follow certain policies bolded on the policy page at times. He tends to be arrogant when it comes to artwork, and kind of makes fun of artwork by saying his is better, which is going against our Be nice policy. He also complained on chat about this demotion, which is not the way anyone should act when demoted. I wouldn't want anyone who acts this way to maintain their position. For those of you who have not seen the way he acts on chat, ask me or a chat moderator for full detail. It is unacceptable, and I'm surprised he hasn't been banned from chat. His lack of general respect and kindness towards other users would be another reason for a demotion. Another notable reason he should get demoted is his lack of use of the tool. I've seen him active while spam edits or unconstructive edits were being made, and he doesn't seem to use the tool. -- 19:42, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * 7) Changing my vote again, Per Bullet's vote and information he's revealed in the nomination discussion. Lloyd the Cat  "I don't die. I just go on adventures."  20:39, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * 8) Based on information that was recently provided, I am now supporting Cesar's demotion. You're not a bad person, Cesar, but you need to work on your maturity and overall respect for others, and their opinions, be it in your favor or against. I know that you can improve. 20:57, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * 9) At this point, I'll have to change my vote as well, those above me have spoken my opinion. 21:58, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * 10) I can't say about Cesar's behavior on the wiki since I haven't seen him until recently. However, his attitude on chat speaks volumes. He neglects to accept the weight of his demotion and has almost constantly moped about it to the other people since he got on. --AdmiralLevi.Signiture_B.gifAdmiralLevi._Salute_B.gif 22:19, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * 11) Per Admiral, Sacor, Gen, and DF. 22:36, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * 12) Per BF. [[File:Super.gif]] You don't have to come and confess  [[File:Super.gif]] 02:27, August 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * 13) Per pretty much everyone above.
 * 14) Per all Sonic 153.png ☯Sly the Fox☯ Sonikku and Bureizu RushAdventure Blaze pose.png 11:31, August 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * 15) Per everybody
 * 16) Yes: Per all the people. 11:58, August 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * 17) Per Blue. --[[File: Walk.gif]] Shadowunleashed13 "I am...none of me..."  [[File: Walk.gif]] 12:51, August 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * 18) Per all  P i t s B r o t h e r    1 4 3
 * 19) Per all. Sorry Cesar; you're a good person but you need to improve on some things. Sandra the Porcupine "Either you do or you don't."   14:56, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 20) Per all, sorry Cesar the way you were acting made me support. Thunder the Hedgehog  12:28, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Oppose

 * It's one thing to never contribute to the wiki and ask for the promotion. But when you've already proven yourself worthy and haven't done anything (good or bad), demotion is not the solution. Additionally, if we demoted everyone who hasn't been here in a while and their page looked suspicious, do you know how small the amount of admins, let alone beauracrats would get? If he or anyone demoted just for being innactive came back, that wouldn't be fair to them.

VOTING IS NOW CLOSED
 * 1) Per DF and Jake. --   Willaca    (talk)    05:29, August 23, 2012 (UTC)

Discussion

 * I'm going to remain neutral here. Cesar has before shown a few behavioral issues previously, but as far as I'm concerned, his attitude has greatly improved in recent days. I cannot find any reason to have him demoted from Rollback, because 1: It's left no harm to have him promoted in the first place, and 2: He hasn't abused his powers. 20:07, August 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm gonna have to remain neutral as well. Although I find the things decribed to be unfit behavior for a good User, I'm curious as to when most of these behaviors occured. According to Sacor Cesar has been improving the negative aspects of his attitude. I have no reason to believe Sacor is lying, but do you think you can provide any recent examples of the behavior you described Pacman? If you can I imagine it'd provide more weight for your case. Lloyd the Cat  "I don't die. I just go on adventures."  20:12, August 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just keep in mind that I may have "lief" so to speak, if my stated opinion differs from other users observing his recent attitude. As far as I'm concerned, he hasn't been very rude to anyone recently, though I may be wrong. 20:20, August 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey, the whole denomination is a run-on. LolBlueSpeeder (talk) 20:24, August 22, 2012 (UTC)BlueSpeeder-3:24PM-8/22/12
 * @Gen & Sacor I guess your right so I will scratch off some things, though he still hardly contributes this Wiki looking through his contributions. Pacmansonic138 (talk) 20:28, August 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * There are many users here who have user rights that no longer contribute here. That doesn't give us the right to have them demoted, unless they return and decide to abuse their powers and/or act immaturely. Cesar recently made a blog addressing his absence on the wiki, so he couldn't have been misbehaving or abusing his rollback rights if he hasn't been here to do so. 20:32, August 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Uh... Cesar, I don't think you're allowed to oppose your own demotion. Besides, Pac set up this nomination for other reasons besides you being inactive. 22:27, August 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'mma go neutral too. Per Sacor & Gen (Ohmygod123 (talk) 23:07, August 22, 2012 (UTC))
 * @Glitch Cesar is allowed to oppose this demotion. It's a community discussion regarding the removal of his rights, so he, and anyone else, are allowed to express their support or opposition of the discussion. 23:24, August 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm changing my vote to neutral. 02:54, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * The main reason for his demotion wasn't even for being inactive. Pac just mentioned it. I'm not sure why everyone seems to think that. It's his behavior that's unacceptable. -- 19:49, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * May you elaborate a bit on what exactly Cesar was doing on the chat? I may reconsider my vote based on this information. 20:09, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * As would I. Lloyd the Cat  "I don't die. I just go on adventures."  20:12, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * Cesar has issues with offending other users when it comes to artwork, on and off chat. Listing specific examples would be useless, because he's done a lot, both on and off wiki. Aside from the artwork, Cesar has issues with an attitude, and needs to be constantly told not to break the rules. I've heard he's improved his behavior in the past couple of days, but that may be because he has a demotion right now. I recall a few weeks ago when Cesar called someone stupid for a link they posted, but that was just about as bad as it necessarily got, and that was a few weeks ago. It's mainly multiple minor offenses when it comes to attitude. He's also mentioned to users that he drew an offensive photo, and I believe he linked some users to it. He mentioned it in main chat, and while he didn't link to it in Main chat, he mentioned it was on his dA, and he PMed the link to users, some without telling them quite what the picture was. It wasn't just him doing this though. I believe other users, even chat mods joined in on the linking and mentioning of this photo. What it comes down to is Cesar having issues with respecting others, and having a bad attitude. Most of his offenses are minor, with a couple ones that stick out. While one of these offenses alone aren't enough for a demotion, I believe Cesar's continued attitude and his habit of disrespecting users and sometimes their opinions is not how anyone, especially a rollback, should act. -- 20:29, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm remaining nuetral, due to the fact that I'm not a "chatty" person. -Please leave a message after the tone. 23:28, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * @Cesar This wasn't set up because you are inactive, but because of your behavior and the lack of edits you make. Pacmansonic138 (talk) 03:07, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

Conclusion

 * Yes - Cesar, consensus is in favour of you being demoted, so I have removed your rollback privileges. This discussion will be removed shortly. -- Supermorff (talk) 16:30, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

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