Talk:Tails Doll

Should we make a robotic counterpart category?
I think it might be a good idea, but what do you guys think? -- 050294 01:33, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Meh. Maybe. We should probably get other things sorted out first, though.  SLJCO  AAATR  So  ul  01:38, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Revisions?
I say, old bean Alexrd, what's with the excision of colour scheme? Removing Ghost-series gems I can accept, but it's difficult to deny that the creature is orange / white...? The Doctor... IS IN Molten Scandium  19:37, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed, it's difficult do deny that the creature is orange and white. Everybody can see his picture. There is no need to fill those fields. Those are for articles without pictures. Alexrd 21:30, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Or for users who can't load pictures, or for visually-challenged users who rely on text-reading software for details. -- Supermorff 21:37, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah some times my PSP does not load the pic on some pages-- Noname The Hero  ( Hero Talk ) This is the liberty we've won for ourselves....OUTER HAVEN 23:39, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

why does everyone think that there is a tails doll curse? THE DOLL ISNT EVEN SCARY! C'MON!--Sunny the Hedgehog 23:55, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Well the tails doll curse is stuped indeed but the story is kinda freaky. A doll that can eat your soul.-- Noname The Hero  ( Hero Talk ) This is the liberty we've won for ourselves....OUTER HAVEN 22:00, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

There is another curse that hypnotizes you. And Sonic's Theme Backwards. lol. The soul stealing thing is fake, but I don't know about the song one... I mean, how many times do you hear Tails Doll's japanese name, die, and sunshine in that song backwards!?

why cant we put down on Trivia that Tails Doll might be created by Travelers Tales? Sentai the Husky  Live Free....or DIE HARD!  13:22, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Because it's just an assumption without reason. Alexrd 13:19, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

oh, 'k then. Sentai the Husky  Live Free....or DIE HARD!  19:32, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

ok how about this, i put down what Tails doll is in Japanese. if it's useless, then just tell me and i'll erase it.-- Sentai the Husky  Live Free....or DIE HARD!  03:50, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

Um,I found A Tails Doll sprite,But I don't knoe if it's fan Art or not. Can Someone help me?-Sharna 22:43, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Fan Art, definately. Tails Doll never got any sprites, since he's never been in a 2D game.--Kagi mizu -Seeya  'round ~ 22:45, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Kay. I thought so. It looked rly real so I din't know.--Sir Rath 22:48, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Trivia
The Trivia section is about trivia of the Tails Doll (individual) not any tails doll that was created. For that, I suggest to create a page for any tails doll, except the character. Alexrd 00:02, November 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * You can do that if you like, although I have no problem having some info about all the tails dolls here. -- Supermorff 08:11, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Lock
should we lock this page so that only admins can edit it? Midnight Wolf  Don't be hatin'!  13:54, November 26, 2009 (UTC)


 * Tempting. Has there been recent trouble to warrant it? -- Supermorff 17:32, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

* shrugs* i dont know. but you can never be too careful Midnight Wolf  Don't be hatin'!  16:21, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Why? There's no reason to lock it.Alexrd 10:28, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Tails Doll Curse
Kay, so I know the curse doesn't really exist, but it is wildly believed. I think we could add a section mentioning that it's a popular belief that tails doll is cursed.  Myself 123  21:58, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't. It would only feed that lie. Alexrd 21:00, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Not unless you put a warning stating that it's not real. Sonic &amp; Scrab  Master


 * I agree with Alexrd. We don't need it, it doesn't add anything. And no, it's not a popular belief. Nobody with any sense believes it. It is, in fact, a popular joke, and nothing more. -- Supermorff 17:47, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

We could at least add something that has to do with its meme-ing. It appeared ar Summer of Sonic 09-- Milo the  echidna  13:54, December 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * That's better - a notable reference. It would be good if you can find a couple more. -- Supermorff 17:58, December 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * besides, the curse is a bunch of spam. so why put it on the wiki if spam is not allowed? Midnight Wolf  Don't be hatin'!  16:55, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Actually, playing Sonic's Theme-It Doesn't Matter backwards produces deep and dark grunting about sunshine lol??? I heard that this was related to Tails Doll. It don't think it's actually a curse, but a subliminal message put in there by Sega. Also, tagging Super Sonic with Tails Doll glitched my game for some reason. But then again, it could be a coincidence. Until it is actually PROVEN that the curse doesn't exist or isn't a curse but something else (like a glitch), we shouldn't be too loose about this. Oh, and Supermoff, it never developed into a joke. There are several websites (I'm not kidding) dedicated to it.--Cross Drago 21:49, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

ITS A FAIK PEOPLEZ!! LISTEN 2 HIM!!!!

tailsdoll curse
so not real.they say people who play the game are cursed.(but it was a diffrent curse)but i played and beat the game and im still alive.so hes not real.

That's not the curse, anyway. The curse has to do with Sonic's Theme from SADX and SA2, hallucinations, and eventually a breakdown that makes you walk in your sleep. Nobody knows if it actually is a curse, though, and it may be a hypnosis that Sega put in Sonic Gems Collection to get revenge on Nintendo. Whoever made up the "BEFORE YOU DIE, YOU SEE TAILS DOLL" things has no common sense. lol--Cross Drago 21:52, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Hey I work on Fossil Fighters wiki please join and I'd like to join here. BillboyX 21:56, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Cleaned the article
I've cleaned the article from irrelevant and misleading information. The article is about Tails Doll (individual) from Sonic R, not other characters similar to it. Alexrd 20:56, April 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * It's irrelevant, yes. This article is about the character from Sonic R. Not about any other. If an article is needed for other character, let's create it. Alexrd 21:24, April 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * What? If an article is about someone, you talk about him, not another person. Alexrd 21:30, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

As well as their relationship with other characters. Sonic &amp; Scrab  Master
 * But that's not the case on this situation. As such, I see no relevance on talking about the other replicas. Alexrd 21:35, April 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * As you said yourself, it is unofficial. Unofficial information on a Wiki is considered spam. Alexrd 21:39, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Like what, my annoying friend? Sonic &amp; Scrab  Master


 * First, this is not Sonic Retro. Second, saying that we should have it just because Sonic Retro has it, is a fallacy. Third, it' still unofficial information. Alexrd 21:46, April 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * What's the part of "unofficial" that you don't understand?Alexrd 21:53, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. Sonic Retro is way better than us. Not to mention, some of the onformation your deleteing is from Sonic Channel, created by Sonic Team themselves. Sonic &amp; Scrab  Master
 * I belong to Sonic Retro. I've contributed to their Wiki myself. Besides, what information have I deleted which is from Sonic Channel?Alexrd 21:53, April 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * The Trivia on this page is good and should not be deleted. The Tails Doll cameos in the archie comics could even have its own section rather than just be in the trivia. The AoStH info is fun and good trivia as is the Sonic Rivals and Sonic Adventure info. especially since they are all other tails dolls made by robotnik. Similarly, the Metal Sonic page alludes to other robot versions of Sonic. The trivia clearly mentions that they are references or coincidences, either way they educate readers on Tails doll information. Sonictoast 22:05, April 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * The trivia section is supposed to be about the character itself. Examples are behind-the-scenes information about the character, official info about it's original purpose, etc... Not about other similar characters. Alexrd 22:08, April 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * nothing in the trivia is about a different character. Just other dolls of Tails which are objects, not characters. The Trivia is simply making readers aware that the Tails doll concept is present in a number of different Sonic texts. Plus the Archie comics cameo is the actual character about whom the article is for.Sonictoast 22:13, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Then let the Archie info remain. But the info on the chart is full of unofficial information, and I will remove it. You, as a sysop should revert these type of info too, instead of just revert. Alexrd 22:25, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. You don't need to tell sysops, admins, beaucrats, etc. how to do their job. Besides, I'm colser than you. I made over 4,000 edits in my time on this wiki. Sonic &amp; Scrab  Master
 * At least, Sonictoast understood my intentions, unlike you both. And what do you mean by saying you've made over 4,000 edits? Does it make you better than anyone? You need to grow up. Alexrd 22:47, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

I understand your intentions perfectly. You just executed them the wrong way. And about the 4,000 edits, that just means I have experience. Meaning, I have more experience than you, dude. I'm not trying to be rude. (imitating Sonic) I just gotta do what I gotta do! That's all! Sonic &amp; Scrab  Master

Who are you to say that I have less experience than you? By the number of edits? Please, be serious. Alexrd 23:02, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, man. (head spins around like from The Excorsist) Sonic &amp;  Scrab  Master

That's the way I see it to be honest. Admins have a lot of experience. That's y they are what they are. Sonic &amp; Scrab  Master

I tend to appreciate what Alexrd is trying to do, but I disagree with the way he has done it - and I also think that antagonising him in the way certain people have done on this talk page is immature and unnecessary. This page is used to document all characters that are called Tails Doll. There is more than one such character, but the one from Sonic R is the most prominent. Therefore, that character is the one mentioned in the introduction paragraph.

Alexrd, if you feel that information should be put into a separate article - that is, if you think that this page should be for the Sonic R character only - then DO NOT delete information. Instead, create the new article yourself and move information to that article, leaving a link on this page.

Can somebody please provide a reference to the Sonic Channel info on this page? In particular, as Sonic Channel is a Japanese website, how was it translated? -- Supermorff 15:20, April 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ah, apologies. I've just checked the page's edit history and see that the ongoing edit war is only about the information in the infobox. A couple of thoughts: Tails Doll has never expressed any likes or dislikes, the nicknames appear to be made by fans rather than used in-universe, and the idea of robots having 'family' continues to baffle me. -- Supermorff 15:26, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Same reason Tails Doll did. Nobody had deleted it. Or, if they had deleted it, someone else put it back. -- Supermorff 16:59, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Supermoff, and sorry for any trouble. I remember when FerralMoonrender had quit from SNN because of the great amount of fanon and childish stuff in the articles, and that's what I was trying to remove. But it's impossible with some members. At least you are one of the few serious people around here. Alexrd 17:32, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

But not even Supermorff is all work and no play. Many of the things u call "childish" can be useful. And u kept removing info that people who need help understnding the character need. Sonic &amp; Scrab  Master
 * Play what? Do you think a Wiki is a place to play? And what type of "useful" info have I removed? If it's not official info, there's no need to be on the article. Alexrd 18:06, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Its official al right. That's what it says on Sonic Channel and the Sonic website. Sonic &amp; Scrab  Master
 * What's official? I only see you complaining, but you can't say a thing that I've deleted and is official. Alexrd 18:43, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Quite simple, my friend. Go to Sonic Channel or Sega website, it'll give u all the info you need, pal. Sonic &amp; Scrab  Master

Sonic Channel is in Japanese, so please provide a link and a translation. Can somebody please also provide a reference to whether Tails Doll is the slowest character in the game. If not, then we will get rid of that information too. -- Supermorff 20:02, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

[http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://sonic.sega.jp/&ei=taW7S8CJBYvM8wSKnIzkBw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CA8Q7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dsonic%2Bchannel%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff Is this what your looking for? Enjoy!]   Sonic &amp;  Scrab  Master

No sir. You claimed that I've deleted official info. I'm asking you what info have I deleted. You can't make me go search something that only you claim. You are the one with the burden of proof. Not me. Supermorff, I've been trying to delete that info because: 1) Amy and Egg Robot are slower than Tails Doll. 2) There is no reference that can support that info. Alexrd 21:50, April 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * No, Sonic & Scrab Master, that is a translation of the home page of Sonic Channel. That page does not have any information pertaining to Tails Doll. Please translate the specific page that has information relating to Tails Doll. In fact, after a very quick check on the Sonic R page at The GHZ, I can see that Amy is indeed the slowest character in the game. Tails Doll actually has a high top speed. So info goes. -- Supermorff 22:20, April 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Then why don't you post the link? There is no info there that supports what was in the article, as such, I agree with Supermorff. Alexrd 22:45, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Tails Doll ATTACK!
The common name for tails doll apearing on the sonic r game. last time i saw it was after i won the last race with super sonic, after i pressed continue it ATTACKED! showed up and it looked into my soul ( it's really that creepy! ) but does anyone know why it does this??? killercrusher232 09:19, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

By the precurcers, GO AWAY TROLL. 12:35, April 7, 2010 (UTC)