Sonic News Network:Requests for User Rights

Requests for adminship (RfA) is the process by which this wiki's community decides who will become administrators (also known as admins or sysops), who are users with access to additional features, most notably the ability to delete pages and to block users. A user either submits his/her own request for adminship (a self-nomination) or is nominated by another user. Please become familiar with the Administrators' how-to guide before submitting your request. This process is modeled around Wikipedia's RfA process, and more information can be found at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship.

Nominating
To submit a nomination for somebody else, please create a section below the "Current nominations for adminship" line listing the nominee's username as a piped link to his/her userpage. Below that, please include a statement about why you are nominating this person and why you think they will be a good admin. The nominee should then accept (or reject) the nomination, and include a statement about why (s)he wants to become an admin, why (s)he thinks (s)he is a good candidate, and what (s)he plans to do with administrator rights. All users must sign and date their statements.

To submit a self-nomination, please create a section below the "Current nominations for adminship" line listing your username as a piped link to your userpage. Below that, please include a statement about why you want to become an admin, why you think you are a good candidate, and what you plan to do with administrator rights. Please sign and date your statement.

Editorial Note: Adminship is NOT taken lightly. You may actually want to spend some time on your request. A couple sentences is hardly sufficient to show that you won't cause more problems than you solve with admin tools, let alone that you think that there is a good reason why more admins are necessary and that you would be a good candidate for a new admin, that you're willing to put time and effort into this wiki, and that you know how to use admin powers properly and would do so.

Discussion
Once a nomination has been made, users will review the nominee and declare their support or opposition by commenting. Such posts should be bulleted (with asterisks *) and preceded by Yes, No or Neutral. When declaring support or opposition in this way, please refrain from using a talk bubble, even if you frequently use one on talk pages. This is to help bureaucrats to easily determine who is for and who is against the nomination.

In this section, users may also make comments (to be preceded by Comment) or ask the nominee questions (to be preceded by Question) in an attempt to get a better idea of the nominee's strengths and weaknesses. Remember to use colons or asterisks (*) at the beginning of lines when responding to other people's comments.

If you wish to change your opinion at a later date, please strke through your original Yes/No/Neutral declaration (you can do this with the tags as follows: Yes produces Yes ).

This is not a majority vote. It is an attempt to assess the community's consensus regarding the candidate. Moreover, to become an admin, the candidate should have the support of most of the community, so if the vote is split, the candidate will probably not be given adminship. Any user can contribute, but opinions have more weight if backed up by reasons and evidence (e.g. occasions in which the nominee has done particularly good or bad work). The opinions of long-standing users, particularly current administrators, will also tend to hold more weight than recently-joined or inexperienced users.

After a reasonable amount of time, a bureaucrat (a user who has even more rights than an administrator, and can give other users admin rights) will read through the request, determine the community's consensus about whether you should be made an admin, and close the discussion. The discussion will be removed from this page, but is still accessible through the page's edit history.

Advice
Here are some pieces of advice for nominators and nominees:
 * Please read through and follow the nomination guidelines above. Failure to do so will harm your chances of success.
 * Demonstrate that you understand what being an admin involves. Read through Help:Administrators' how-to guide if you are not familiar with the role.
 * Admins are expected to be good users first, but this is not sufficient to be made an admin. Number of edits, number of pages created, being nice to other users, not engaging in vandalism, knowing about Sonic, etc. are signs of a good user, but they should have no bearing on the discussion for adminship. Only users widely recognised as good users should be nominated for adminship (those that have not demonstrated this through their work will have their nominations rejected quickly) and they do not need to prove this again during the debate for adminship.
 * Don't expect that the community will be familiar with your work. You must provide evidence. In its simplest form, this may include listing pages (or talk pages) where you have been particularly influential, but preferably you should provide a link to the Diff pages of major edits you make.
 * Similarly, don't expect that the community will necessarily be aware of your nomination. You are advised to request comments from regular users, particularly admins (a list of whom can be found here). Note, however, that only asking your own friends to comment is usually transparent and may harm your chances in the long run.
 * If you are an admin on another wiki site, this can provide good evidence of your suitability for adminship, assuming either you have been granted adminship in recognition of the work you have done on the site (as opposed to receiving it because you founded the site or were one of the only users) or you have been an effective admin having received the privileges. You must provide a link to the site in question.
 * Don't lie, as doing so will almost certainly result in a failed nomination.
 * Be patient. This process is not quick. If you cannot wait for the process to conclude at its own pace, you probably aren't ready for adminship anyway.
 * Remember that this is not a talk page. Please keep discussions relevant to the matter at hand and do not start to chat. For instance, try not to thank everybody who votes in your favour.
 * Don't attempt to influence the discussion by promising to do something if you are successful.
 * Don't talk about things that you don't do, only things that you do do.
 * Please be civil!
 * Read User:Sonicrox14's blog: User blog:Sonicrox14/So, You Wanna Be An Admin?! and take a second thought about adminship.

Current Nominations For Adminship
Here are the users who are currently nominated for sysop, rollback, or other privileges.

Murphyshane (Admin)
I nominate Murphyshane for adminship. It is true that he deserves it with his main-space edits, behavior and maturity towards this wiki. He truly does want to improve himself and the wiki and he has. I am proud of him, he has made more edits I have, so why not? Murphyshane and I are the same level. I became an admin so why can't he?--58SlugDrones! 05:30, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

I'll now list some pros and keep the cons to myself. Course, don't know what good adminship'll do me but

-- Murphyshane  I voted Blaze, so you vote Shadow Don't click here 23:01, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm nice to other users.
 * I was made Admin on other wikis for my frequent editing.
 * I edit daily
 * I'm quite experienced
 * I use good grammar and do not use words like "ur", "woot", "dis", "r", "u", etc.
 * I've kept a good reputation
 * I'm mature
 * I've uploaded several useful images
 * I don't cause trouble


 * Demonstration of use of Admin powers

Well, on WarioWiki I protected the main page because it was vandalised. People started replacing content with text like "Wario farts in Brawl yay" "Ur moms back" etc. A user also renamed it "Maud Page". I deleted unneeded pages like WarioWare: Touched (which was already an article so I turned it into a redirect) WarioWare, Inc. (same situation as Touched) and King Dedede (which had nothing to do with Wario), a vandalised page like Maro Land (it had all kinds of things like Mario getting shot), Plumber outfit, Biker outfit and Captain syrup (which were Spam and marked for deletion), User talk:81.104.126.252. (which contained another user's password)

As for being nice to other users, I like to help new ones learn how wikis work. Like, answer their questions, teach them how to change font traits, etc. I'm nice to them because I don't pick fights or tell them that they're bad users. I'm also polite to vandals, if a vandal were to vandalise a page, instead of telling them something like "Do that again and I will kill you!" I'd say "I'm sorry, but please do not vandalise a page again. Thank you." -- Murphyshane  I voted Blaze, so you vote Shadow Don't click here 10:22, August 18, 2010 (UTC)


 *  No  - I'm really sorry to be blunt, but you are making the same mistakes as last time. This is what your nomination looks like in the context of the advice and guidance at the top of the page:
 * I have the 5th most edits of all users Irrelevant
 * I've uploaded several useful images. Irrelevant
 * I'm nice to other users (except vandals). - Let me know when you're polite to other users, INCLUDING vandals.
 * I was made Admin on other wikis for my frequent editing. - And can you give examples of what you did with admin privileges on these other wikis?
 * Pages I've created Irrelevant
 * You've got a lot of potential, but I really want to see you improve your nomination first. If you can show that you did good admin-related work on those other wikis, that would be sufficient evidence in itself of your qualification. -- Supermorff 09:49, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

I say Yes Murphyshane should become Admin.Murphyshane has created a lot of articles that will help this wiki.He has the 5th most amount of edits and he has 3,000 main edits.He deserves Adminship and I'm not saying this because were good friends I'm saying it because its true and he deserves it! Ultimate Dude  127 19:50, August 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes - Okay, so I finally got round to looking at WarioWiki. I see that the Main Page was indeed vandalised, but that you weren't the one to personally fix that, and when you decided to protect it nobody had vandalised it for 8 months, so I'm not sure that was necessary. You did some good work deleting unneeded pages, although you could have done better on the cleanup - you deleted "Red (Pokemon Trainer)" and the page "Red", but there's still a disambiguation and "Red (Ashley's friend)" could now be moved to "Red", for instance. These are all small things, though, that you can easily improve on - in general, it seems clear that you'll use the privileges responsibly and not go overboard.
 * I also looked at comments you've left on user talk pages, and think you show decent restraint and civility, but I will say that a "block" is not the same as a "ban" - we don't ban people on Wikia. I was quite amused by this edit in which you said "vandalism is against our policy" - that's obviously true, but it would have been better to explain what the user had done that you had identified as vandalism.
 * But all in all, quite promising. -- Supermorff 08:06, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe - You're a hard working and dedicated user. I think you will do well as an admin. But I'm not sure if we need any more admins, but if others say yes, then I'll change my vote.  Myself 123  02:15, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I say Yes. This vote is not out of friendship at all, Murphyshane is a responsible;e user, with a large edit count, he's incredibly reasonable and so on. I don't think I've ever seen him have a problem with any of the users here. 14:45, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I say yes. Murphs been around for a bit now. sure I been out of the loop of things but I say if he is gerenally trusted and hard working then thats what we need right?--Mystic Monkey  sez 21:55, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yes-- Okay, really. I have said alot before now haven't I?--58SlugDrones! 12:55, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe: We already have plenty of admins; Me, Myself (and I; couldn't resist the pun), Morff, Toast, Shelly, Mystic, 58, SSM; I'm not even sure if I'm able to keep track of all the admins! He does have the qualifications, but too many admins could possibly lead to trouble.--Kagi mizu -Seeya 'round 19:51, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know: I'm a little unsure wether you should be an admin or not. You seem to qualify for the most part. But I can't shake the feeling that something's missing. But like Kagimizu said, he have enough admins already. Sonic &amp; Scrab  Master   Kongosoha!  20:17, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

The guy has been waiting a long time. He is obviously loyal to this wiki and cares for its well being. He's kind of a punk sometimes, but so am I, I have a weakness for picking on Shadow fanboys. Why he wants to be an admin? I don't know. Not like you get payed or anything. But he's a good user to have around and I think he's earned the privilege. yes Sonictoast 04:53, November 12, 2010 (UTC)

True, we have alot of admins here. It can lead to trouble but it is unfair if he has everything worthy to be an admin. He has done alot and has shown a good behavior, there is nothing to disagree with that. Can't we just make him the last admin?--58SlugDrones! 15:28, November 12, 2010 (UTC)

What do ya mean I can be a punk Sonictoast? -- Murphyshane  I voted Blaze, so you vote Shadow Don't click here 16:16, November 12, 2010 (UTC)

@Murphy: Maybe: I admire your loyalty and determination, but if you keep up the list of good behaviors and procedures in handling vandals and Trolls, then you'll definately have my vote. However, I'm going to watch you and see how you do with Administration privleages and see if you can handle such responsiblities, should you recieve it. Try not to do anything that can hurt your relationship with the community, and I think you'll go very far.

@58 & Kagimizu:

58SlugDrones! said: "True, we have alot of admins here. It can lead to trouble but it is unfair if he has everything worthy to be an admin. He has done alot and has shown a good behavior, there is nothing to disagree with that. Can't we just make him the last admin?"

Kagimizu said: "We already have plenty of admins; Me, Myself (and I; couldn't resist the pun), Morff, Toast, Shelly, Mystic, 58, SSM; I'm not even sure if I'm able to keep track of all the admins! He does have the qualifications, but too many admins could possibly lead to trouble."

Not trying to sound rude, but the whole point of this nomination is to determine whether or not Murhpy has the capabilities required to handle a position in which he will need to regularly, if not daily, participate in and be able to handle his privileges responsibly and professionally. Yes, we have many Admins here, but half of them (if not more) are inactive, and some (not all) of the Admins whose status is listed as "Active" probably does very little to handle situations of certain natures when they occur, such as cases of vandalism, harassment, etc, and the regular users have to wait until a lot of the current Admins show themselves before any issues in which they can't solve on their own, are solved by said Admins. Also, it would be great if any newly appointed Administrators continue to contribute to the site's information while also handling their responsibilites as Admins. I myself don't think this would be very difficult to do, but then again I don't know how everyone else completely works.

So here's the point I'm trying to establish: We need people who can be here for a certain amount of time (like about an hour or so at the very least) a day, if at all possible, to patrol the site, while also doing their part to contribute around here other than just handling vandals, and if these Admins have to leave, then at least one Adminstrator can remain and keep watch on things. Will Murphy, along with any future Admins, be able to pull all this off? Who knows, but I think that should be the standard for any Admins on any encyclopedia website such as this one.

And another thing: Just because there is a large number of Admins doesn't mean we shouldn't close any nominations, because (like I just stated) we don't need Admins just as a number count, we need Admins who can prove that they can efficiently do their job and not put aside any responsibilities and tasks they had before hand just because (and if) they acquire Adminship. That's basically saying that we're allowing people to work hard around here for a certain while, and once we give them Administration, they can completely stop doing what they were doing before and keep using their powers as long as they stay active and just use them to stop vandals, delete spam articles, give messages to Users, etc.

We need Admins who can do their jobs efficently and still contribute to the site. That is what makes a good Admin on a website like this. Sorry if it seems like I'm repeating myself, but I felt that these points should be established. And I'm not trying to insult or call anyone out, but (in my opinion) nominations should never be closed because of, well, what I stated above. Also, if we keep getting Admins who fufil the requirements I listed above, then why should it be a bad thing to have a large number of Admins if they all do their duties while still greatly contributing to the website? To be perfectly honest I think all we really need to do is just watch who we give Administration to (if we think they deserve it) and see if they meet our standards and then some, and if they don't, then we can just revoke their privilages and wait until someone else comes around and succeeds where the previous new Admins could not. Numbers shouldn't be a determination as to who is worthy and how many Admins there can be, skills, determination, proffessionalism, mannerisms, and overall contributions should really matter in discussions like this. Phoenix the Cat The flames reborn....  21:53, December 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * That's a bit of an essay, right there. You've actually highlighted quite a lot of problems with the current process. The whole point of the nomination is not to determine if Murphyshane has what it takes to be an admin (technically) - it's to determine whether there is consensus in the community about whether he should be an admin. I've just looked over the above nomination again and I still don't think the consensus is there. The number of existing admins may not be a good reason to just close down a nomination, but it's as valid a reason as any other to vote against a nomination, which is what Kagi has done. The fact is, on any wiki, it will always be harder to get adminship when there are a lot of active administrators. Considering our size, we have a lot of active administrators. -- Supermorff 09:51, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

@ Supermorff:

Supermorff said: "The number of existing admins may not be a good reason to just close down a nomination, but it's as valid a reason as any other to vote against a nomination, which is what Kagi has done. The fact is, on any wiki, it will always be harder to get adminship when there are a lot of active administrators. Considering our size, we have a lot of active administrators."

I agree with you. However, if you really think about it, what is it that will keep the current Admins we do have that are active around for possibly months, if not years? Allow me to elaborate: I believe that having a large number of Admins could be a good thing, especially if this site one day develops to the point where information gathering and activity occurs on a daily basis (such as WoW Wiki, before it moved out of Wikia), I don't necessarily believe that every single User we give Administration privileges to will always continue to display the traits which the entire community found attractive during said User's nomination. What if, say, one Admins who was well liked for his positive, outgoing attitude and willingness to work for the community, along with doing everything he could to contribute to everything which covered, say, the games media for Sonic the Hedgehog, one day suddenly stops displaying these traits and becomes bitter or impatient with other Users, and stop contributing to the site's information altogether, except probably just fix cases of only vandalism?

I'll use myself as an example of a typical User on a Wikia website. Naturally, if I encountered an Admin like that, I would discontinue to support his actions because I believe that he is no longer doing anything to seriously help out our website and is no longer displaying the overall attitude of a User whom I once trusted with special privileges to protect the site and its members, while also serving as a peace keeper for any incidents which were to occur around here. I would voice my concerns to said Administrator, and other members of the community (if said Administrator continues his negative and possibly harmful behaviors), and see if anyone else would agree with me that we should have said Administrator have his privilages revoked, then replace him/her with a User who we believe would better suit the community and the website as a whole.

Another example I can use is the ability of certain Admins to remain active on a regular basis. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think that the maximum amount of days that an Admin cannot show one's self on here is 30 days before being written off as possibly inactive. Some may also question some Admins' ability to stay active if they hardly ever show up around here to contribute, or they do show themselves but don't really contribute at all. Example: We have an Admin or two show up once for about every 2 weeks, and they only edit on the days they show up (the amount that they work on those days can vary, but that's not the point), and then disappear for another 2 weeks before continuously repeating the cycle. I'm going to use myself as an example of a typical User once again. If I were paying attention and noticing this, I would begin to think that maybe this said Admin may have some problems which are making it difficult for him/her to show up and do anything here (although I may quickly throw this possibility out the window if it continues to happen excessively), or that said Admins may have too many other responsibilities elsewhere and, even if I like them personally and think they are great additions to the Admin roaster and to the site overall (when they are around), may hinder their ability to carry out their responsibilities here. That could easily turn into a problem for everyone here because the lacking presence of this said Administrator could do little to nothing on our ability to patrol and manage this site, and may make it difficult for certain problems (such as anonymous IPs that excessively vandalize, editing disputes, cases of harassment between Users, the creation of SPAM articles, etc.) to be taken care of quickly and efficiently.

I would suggest to another Admins or Crats my concerns about the Admin(s) who I think are not appearing and contributing as much as I think they should be, and see whether any of them would agree to ask said Admin if they are too busy to carry out their Administrative responsibilities here at SNN. If said Admin(s) agree, then we can revoke their privileges and have a nomination to see if the community can find a User who can demonstrate the said abilities of the previous Admin, but do so as frequently as we think sounds fair and reasonable, or if said Admins refuse and say they will contribute more but fail to do so each and every time they're asked, then we can revoke their privileges immediately and have an election for a nominee we think would serve as a better replacement.

I know I talk a lot, but bear with me. Anyway, this is the point I'm trying to make overall here: I don't believe that any of the Admins here will always be here to contribute to the SNN all the time for whatever reason(s) (such as what I stated above, or maybe even reasons which none of us would think are logical, or just weren't expecting. I could list those ideas too, but I'm not going to because I think this comment is long enough as it is), and because of that I believe we should never close down any future nominations for Admins and Crats in case we need any replacements for the ones we currently have in the future. It's okay to state that the number of Admins as a way to express one's self as to why they think there should not be anymore Admins, but that statement's influence over the decisions made on future nominations will only last for so long because, like I just said, none of us would be able to stay here forever. We all have to leave sometime, whatever the reason may be. I'm going to stay neutral on Murphy's nomination because I haven't been paying much attention to his contributions as of late, and I will only make my judgments on his abilities once, and if, he aquires Adminship. Phoenix the Cat The flames reborn....  21:47, December 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, I just have to point this out: it would be really good if, in future, you limited yourself per comment to only the most important few points you wanted to make, and make them succinctly. I'd love to respond to all your points, but by the time I get to the end I've forgotten what the first paragraph was about!
 * Obviously we don't expect admins to stick around forever. The fact that we've had turnover in the past demonstrates that this admins can and do leave. But I'm not sure I agree with - or, honestly, fully understand - your solution. The number of active admins will change over time, so if there are fewer admins in future, there will be fewer barriers to new admins being promoted. So what's the problem? -- Supermorff 22:29, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

I've already established what I didn't agree with, which was closing future nominations just because of the number of active Admins that we have here. I'm sorry if I've irritated anyone with my excessivwly long messages, but I just wanted to point out my reasons for disagreeing with a certain viewpoint in a detailed manner, so I wouldn't have to go through the trouble of saying my opinions and then having to answer question after question as to why I have my opinions if some decide to question me. That's it. I will be sure to limit the amount of text in any of my future comments. Phoenix the Cat The flames reborn....  22:39, December 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm not irritated, I just don't think I can provide a satisfactory response to comments that long. As I said before, if the nomination was closed (it hasn't been yet), it would be because there was no consensus in support of the nomination, not just because we already have too many admins. If some people take the number of active admins into account when casting their vote, that is entirely their own business. (Your own vote is further evidence of the lack of community consensus for the nomination.) Nobody is advocating the position that you are arguing against. -- Supermorff 22:55, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Grand Admiral Leviathan for Secretary Admin
I nominate myself for adminship. I feel that I would do a good job as such, for these reasons;


 * Most users here already know me, and I know them. Some newer users here often ask me for assistance (If I have left a message), and I'm always happy to help.


 * Like the above, I'm always happy to help with situations that need resolution, or new users that need help around.


 * I still help a lot with the vandal situation. Like my nomination for rollback, Adminship would also be the next step up, and greatly help me delete the pnony articles they make, and ban the users responsible (In some cases)


 * I am always on here. On weekends, I stay here up until I can't see anymore, then get back on in the morning. The only times I'm not on is during school hours.


 * I always check every edit made here, no matter how tedious this job can get, to make sure no vandalism or harassment is going on in articles and Talkpages, respectively.


 * I have a good amount amount of edits for an admin nomination.


 * I have helped contribute to the wikia by creating many much-needed articles, like so, so, and so. Those are only some minor examples.


 * I have created articles regarding all of the S3 and S&K bosses and mini-bosses, then went back and added images and expanding them. I'm also responisble for creating articles about the shields in that game as well.


 * This may be unnecessary, but I'm also responsible for bringing Userboxes to the wiki.


 * Is it worth mentioning that my edits have surpassed FFF?


 * I have a good gauge on what's wrong and what's not.


 * I feel (Key word feel) that I am able to stop some (Key word some) arguments, although that's not all the time.


 * Despite insurmountable odds, I can even fix even the worst situations. Just see Here. (October 25)


 * I have recently became a Bureaucrat here, while my experiences as a Bureaucrat there are limited ths far, it will be a leap forward, and hopefully will prove my capability to be an administrator here.

Now, I sound like I'm glamorizing myself here, I have many flaws that I'm working on getting rid of, such as,


 * I'm a bit rash. Unfortunately, right now is a stressful time for me. My family is supposed to be moving to Florida, but they won't tell me when, so I can't say goodbye to my friends. One of my friends died last weekend (I just now learned about it) in a car accident with her mom. We had known each other since fifth grade. My other friends don't go to my high school, so I'm stuck alone with the FREAKS from last year. I'm also having to deal with rumors being told about me, the harassment that goes on everyday in my life, and the fact no one will do anything about it. Don't get me started about my little brother (Yes, this one.).


 * My sense of justice is a bit strong. This may not be so bad, but sometimes my sense of justice gets me into trouble sometimes, as well as the fact that I ack before I speak. I'm trying to avoid this, but it is [Unfortuantley] inherited.


 * New comics. I used to dislike and flat-out HATE new comics that pop up around here, but in the recent months I've been working on my toleration for such comics that pop up.

I know I will use my adminship lightly. I will not ban other users for no reason, and I shouldn't even have to say that. You won't see me banning every user that posts a rude comment on my comics, that would just be plain out of line for me. If I ever do so, give me a good whack to the back of the head, and throw me into a river.

I hope that the majority of the admins will say yes, but I will respect your decision if you say no. 19:32, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I say yes. He's done a good job helping me keeping this wikia how it is. Sonic &amp; Scrab  Master   Kongosoha!  19:42, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I say yes I know he's helped with the vandal problem a lot and he generously asks them to stop he is a good user for adminship 55 Skcor Ezalb 23:34, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe - You're a hard working and dedicated user. I think you will do well as an admin. But I'm not sure if we need any more admins, but if others say yes, then I'll change my vote.  Myself 123  02:15, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I say Yes.Admiral has done lot's of work.He may flaw in being nice to everyone, but so do I and ssome of the other user's.But he deserves Adminship. Ultimate Dude  127 22:25, September 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Did you read my nomination before posting that? Also, what do blogs have to do with this? A good majority of my edits are mainspace. AdmiralLevi.Signiture_B.gifAdmiralLevi._Salute_B.gif 22:50, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think you know what 'Brash' and 'Forceful' mean. Take a good long look at my post, is there anything in there that is mean or rude? No. 23:48, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

That last message was an example of rudeness.Moon the Hedgehog's power level is higher than Frieza's!! 23:52, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Read 'Things I am improving on' #1. 23:56, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I never said you couldn't voice your opnion! I was just making sure you actually read my nomiation! 00:07, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

You know what? Nevermind. This is all pointless. 00:18, September 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Maybe: We've got a good few active admins here (7 just off the top of my head) already, and on top of that, as you've admitted you can be rash, which makes me think you might do something regretable. Just working on it isn't necessarily enough; you have to be able to handle things calmly no matter what. Also, your comments could be a tad bit more polite sometimes.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 00:26, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * "I will use my adminship lightly. I will not ban other users for no reason, and I shouldn't even have to say that. You won't see me banning every user that posts a rude comment on my comics, that would just be plain out of line for me. If I ever do so, give me a good whack to the back of the head, and throw me into a river." AdmiralLevi.Signiture_B.gifAdmiralLevi._Salute_B.gif 00:28, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Not every rude comment, but if you got into a fight that got heated enough, I don't know how you'd handle it. on top of that, as said before, your comments at times are a little less than polite. You can prove that you have control over your temper and avoid making rude comments (regardless of who starts it), then I'll change my vote. Three things an admin needs the most are experience, reputation, and maturity.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 00:35, September 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * I understand your point, but going to such harsh measures would be completly unorthodox, I would never go to such lengths. AdmiralLevi.Signiture_B.gifAdmiralLevi._Salute_B.gif 00:42, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

You say that now, when you are calm and not in the middle of a fight. However, anger can make one do things they normally would never do. Your advertisement for your adminship is also somewhat questionable; it asks your friends to vote for you, who would vote more based on friendship than actual ability. I know this is not true for all friends, but the question is still there.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 01:26, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

No. A good admin must be responsible, get along with other users and use good grammar. Though these are not ALL the requirements, these are a few. The second one isn't one you exactly "excel" in. And now you've adopted this new name, "Grand Master Admiral Levithan." We don't need braggarts in our staff. -- Shelly ' the ' Hedgehog  I'm not a monkey! 01:33, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

I understand A and B, but C. .. 01:44, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, Shelly. I gave him that name. It's the title given to the commander of a fleet and is two titles higher than Admiral. The name is also known as "Grand Fleet Admiral". Sonic &amp; Scrab  Master   Kongosoha!  02:24, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

No: What I expect are more bigger, greater mainspace edits. Mainspace edits that can bring good and up-to-date information. And thus, I do not think an overall of 4000 edits is enough to be an admin. You are a good user, indeed but you seem outspoken and harsh to other users and vandals. I do not appreciate admins who start acting rude or cutting in all of a sudden and thus I know admins who do that, but I do not wish to name them. You are pleasant and you are very good around here, your mainspace edits are good but try making articles, more articles and try being involved in discussions that are involved in changing the wiki rather than about fan-fiction. I can consider you, but adminship, not quite. Just keep it up.--58SlugDrones! 05:56, September 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * That was two months ago! AdmiralLevi.Signiture_B.gifAdmiralLevi._Salute_B.gif 12:46, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

I vote yes. Let's see how much difference it makes.

-<font color="#000000">SalaComMander 18:12, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

i'll vote yes, just work on your rashness and you'll be fine.-- G e  r  o  yo  00:01, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

No (Sorry): Well it is tough to say so because you do and you dont, even though you do mainspace edits, you do them merely like: Correcting, Spell-Checking and sorry to say a few not so good edits as well. Well for an admin its a different story, You make comics...I dont know what to say about that (*sigh*), Because of your comics you are everyones friend, thats one reason they are voting for you. Well you also say the you go in many forums and blogs to disscuss the improvment on the SNN. Well on thet point, it dosent matter, I mean KHGensis, Genesjs, Blaze Rocks, Amy Rose 1515 and Mighty the Hedgefox also come in the forums and it doent seem that a really big thing has happened and is a good excuse for adminship, does it? No. So sorry buddy maybe if you follow things me and 58 do, you know mainspace edits by, addind rare photos, cameos, creating pages, correcting, headings and vandalism.--DiscoDuck 04:52, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Levithan, I would consider atleast 2000 mainpace edits for adminship.--58SlugDrones! 10:57, September 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * All right, I have a legitmate question. Do mainspace edits really matter THAT much? If you take a look at how many Mainspace edits some of these Admins have, most of them are lingering around the 600-800 mark. Looking at a chart of edits for one user with edis in the ten-thousands, most of her edits come from forums. The same with Mystic Monkey and Launchballer. About the comics, most of the people who voted here don't even read my comic. I later asked some of them if they did it out of friendship, and pretty much all of them said no. AdmiralLevi.Signiture_B.gifAdmiralLevi._Salute_B.gif 13:28, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Well, actually mainspace editting is the most important thing in this wiki. Obviously our goal is to make this place the number one source of all Sonic and the only way we can do that is to do mainspace editting. And I agree with you, Sonicrox14, Mystic and Launchballer don't deserve adminship, I know. But that's not my fault, I wasn't there at the time of their adminship, unfortunately. Sonicrox14 and Launchballer got bureaucracy out of luck, they got it without getting adminship. They just got it because the website was running out of admins, that's all. But now this wiki has alot of admins so it's not going to be for me to cast your vote. If I were there, at their adminship voting I would give a strict no and even till now if Launchballer and Sonicrox14 would ask for adminship if they didn't get it that time I would still give a no. I don't care about what forums or blogs you people do, it would never impress me if you guys have more edits than I do or even if users here have been here longer than I have, the only things I care about is mainly mainspace edits, vandal dealing and participation in improving the wiki. I am glad to say that User:Supermorff, User:Sonictoast, User:Murphyshane and User:Kagimizu are such great users, I do wish for more users like them. Levithan, you are close to them but not quite I'll tell you again-- you are doing good, just keep this up and become more active in discussions regarding improving the wiki, uploading rare pictures, creating articles etc. Because these are the things lots of Sonic fans come here for, they may not know us, they don't care how we talk or how we make blogs. There are lots of people who just come here for information and don't edit at all, so we need more mainspace editors, more people who can make articles, upload pictures no other website has. You need to improve that, if you do then I will certainly vote for you. And don't forget about the discussions.--58SlugDrones! 14:18, September 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Not yet - I've just looked through your mainspace contributions, and I've got to conclude that you are a truly brilliant vandal fighter. No question that you're very dedicated user, that you really know your way around the wiki despite focussing (I think reasonably) on your own side projects. I have one main area for concern, which I was very pleased that you highlighted yourself in your nomination, which is your interactions with other users. You can be rash and you can be rude. Now, I realise that in some cases you have not intended to be rude, but as you said intention is not always clear over the internet, and even though you did not intend to be rude your words very much came across as rude. It's happened a couple of times in this discussion already. You have already made attempts to improve on this - that's fantastic, but I think you just have a little further to go before adminship.
 * Also, Drones, Launchballer is not now an admin and has never been a bureaucrat. I've seen that incorrect statement somewhere before but I still don't know where it came from. -- Supermorff 18:56, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * 58, you DO raise a valid point about the mainspace editing, You win that round. But I'm going to hold my ground with the discussions about wikia, I have been active in such discussions, I might not be a regular in said department, but I am involved, be sure.


 * Supermorff, I can't say thank you enough. I'm glad to see that at least one admin understands my points, and I'm also glad that there's someone of authority that isn't ready to cut my head off and deny my nomination because of a handful of rashness to other users here. You're right, I may not be ready yet, but, like you said, I only have a bit more to go. AdmiralLevi.Signiture_B.gifAdmiralLevi._Salute_B.gif 21:05, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe: You're a popular user, you're webcomics have provided joy to many users. But i'm not really saying yes, not really saying no. Maybe if ya stick at it, who knows? -- <font color="Crimson">Murphyshane <font color="#00b6ee"> I voted Blaze, so you vote Shadow <font color="#C0C0C0">Don't click here 21:11, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Anyone else care to shoot me down? -- 03:26, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I still say you should become Admin, Admiral. I originally thought you were when I first came here... Sacorguy79's RPG Level Up is OVER 9001!!!!! 17:45, October 1, 2010 (UTC)Sacorguy79

Perhaps I will reondsider my vote if i see and improvement in attitude. I'm not criticising Lev, you're one of my best friends, but the phrase "Anyone else care to shoot me down?" isn't something I'd expect out of an admin, again, I'm not critisising, just trying to point you in the right direction. Also, in the Advice section, it says to be civil. -- <font color="Crimson">Murphyshane <font color="#00b6ee"> I voted Blaze, so you vote Shadow <font color="#C0C0C0">Don't click here 17:50, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yes: I've heard his side of the story on Xbox LIVE (we're friends there), and he gets along fine with quite a few people (contrary to what Shelly said). He has lost his temper once on record (something about a user called "Moon-something"). He uses good grammar (something Shelly was wrong about, as well. Some new people who become vandals, he warns, and they snap at him. But he means well, they just misunderstand (a flaw with the internet that makes people seem rude). And he's not a braggart.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 01:23, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Yoo-hoo? 16:00, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

This wouldn't be a good time to run for adminship cuz Supermorff aint around -- <font color="Crimson">Murphyshane <font color="#00b6ee"> I voted Blaze, so you vote Shadow <font color="#C0C0C0">Don't click here 18:08, October 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * It's been going on since September. AdmiralLevi.Signiture_B.gifAdmiralLevi._Salute_B.gif 15:52, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Mine's been goin' on since August. I am a very paitent woman man __ <font color="Crimson">Murphyshane <font color="#00b6ee"> I voted Blaze, so you vote Shadow <font color="#C0C0C0">Don't click here 15:55, October 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well your 'ship hasn't been left with only Five yes's, three no's and four maybe's. It could go anywhere from here. AdmiralLevi.Signiture_B.gifAdmiralLevi._Salute_B.gif 15:59, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I got 5 yes's and a maybe.....gotta love lemons -- <font color="Crimson">Murphyshane <font color="#00b6ee"> I voted Blaze, so you vote Shadow <font color="#C0C0C0">Don't click here 16:02, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Hell Yes: Judging by the reasons, and the fact I have a great mind for choosing (just look at my opinion at Princeofallsalads on DB Fanon, and he's now a bureaucrat,) I say he's amazing. Other than the fact he can be hotheaded at times, all-in-all, he's an awesome choice. He notices even the smallest mistakes (see his most recent edit on this page. The Air Konvict is on death row.

Nearing two months now. . . 02:30, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

Mine's almost 3 __ <font color="Crimson">Murphyshane <font color="#00b6ee"> I voted Blaze, so you vote Shadow <font color="#C0C0C0">Don't click here 17:28, November 2, 2010 (UTC)