Board Thread:User Rights Requests/@comment-477304-20170417190140/@comment-477304-20170418024202

Hedgehogsonic11 wrote: Myself 123 wrote:

Hedgehogsonic11 wrote: Alright, so I haven't had the opportunity to write down my opinion on a PC about all this up to this point, but believe me, I've been observing this incident and the fallout that has resulted. Now, I'm going to be unabashed, blunt, and brusque, so if you're expecting eloquence, don't bother. Let me preface this with a simple statement. This is stupid. Everyone's up in arms over a practical joke. An actual joke is tearing this wiki's admin team apart. (Some things never change, do they?) I'm sure that I don't have to remind you of everything Ryan has done for the wiki, cause you can scroll up and see the logo right there. Or perhaps the background would be enough? No, maybe you should check your twitter feeds or your youtube sub box, and see how much you're putting on the line. Like it or not, Ryan is a big reason the wiki is what it is today, and he's shown over a large number of years that despite his harsh words and dismissive actions, he loves and cares for this wiki. That's why he has done, does do, so much for it, and you're willing to throw away YEARS of work for what's actually a freaking joke. This thread has spiraled into an attack on the man who has done so much for each and every one of us, a man whose name has become a great presence within the community, a man whose very name gives the wiki clout. If we're being objective, you're throwing away a valuable asset. If we're being subjective, you're throwing away years of companionship. Have I mentioned that this is over an actual joke? Like, I get that what Ryan did was wrong, and that he deserves some form of punishment, and cannot be allowed to just do whatever the hell he wants whenever the hell he wants. Ryan should be punished according to his actions. Could you reread that last sentence? Let's go through it one more time. 'ACCORDING TO HIS ACTIONS! 'You think this joke is worth a demotion? You think that the harm caused by this is worth the harm you'll do to everyone by pursuing this kamikaze mission? We need checks and balances on Journalistic, not checks and unbalanced punishment. "BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO," you say, "I WANNA SHARE ABOUT MY MISGIVINGS WITH JOURNALISTIC AS A PERSON!!!" Well, I'd love to break it to you, but that's just too damn bad. This isn't the place for that. This is a demotion thread. Let's try to stay professional and not devolve this (already circus-like) show into a crap-sling fest or a character analysis.

tl;dr: I oppose, and Journo should recieve a lesser punishment for his actions as opposed to demotion, and try to stay on the topic of the demotion thread and the events that lead to it, as opposed to Journo as a person or childish grabs at anyone else. Keep it a little professional, folks. Not to sound like a broken record, but unfortunately Journalistic's actions have made it pretty hard for anyone to talk to him about his behaviour and the admins seem to just ignore or excuse it. I would've preferred a less severe action, but unfortunately, I didn't see one. If this thread can at least lead to a discussion about his behaviour, then that'll be something. I mean you can temporarily block him or something. You're admins, no? The chat mod role may be disbanded but I do recall several methods of punishment that went along with rights. Have you considered any of them? I'm not an admin.