Talk:Sonic the Hedgehog

Quote
Whaddya think about changing Sonic's quote at the top of the page to 'Sonic's the Name, Speed's my Game!'?

Hmm, I do like that idea.

Knuckleschaotix 23:28, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed 69.34.212.118 03:30, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Mascot
When I was in an elementary school in Puerto Rico in 1999, the school mascot was Sonic (the classic one with no green eyes). Can we post that up? User:Male Wavemaster Enzeru
 * Sure, go ahead! :) sonic was origanly ganna be a rabbit and weres a bo tie

Question
How do you write Japanese on the SNN? 207.74.196.20 18:40, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Just copy Japanese characters off Wikis and paste them where you need to. Keep in mind which characters you need to use and when. (ex. Katakana for character names) Enzeru 14:47, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

VANDALISM ALERT
What the heck??? The sonic the hedgehog character page is empty!(noticed: 2-13-09) It was just fine yesterday! SOMEONE needs to do something about this. I hope the WIKIA people can restore it. -Pissed off fan of Sonic

Someone keeps deleting mostly everything from the Sonic Article!, HE WILL BE BLOCKED INDEFINITELY--Lil&#39; DJ 01:52, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

We're missing games Sonic will appear in and was supposed to appear in, plus cameos. Enzeru 01:31, 24 January 2008 (UTC)Enzeru

23:00, 9 July 2008 (UTC)Liveandlearn

Idea for every character than just this one...
Insted of all the information from games, cartoons and comics all packed into one profile, what if each characters seperate roles in different medias and existances had there own personal articles and were listed in disambiguation when the search name comes up?

Also when people put a name in the search such simply as "sonic" they get the disambiguation list to help pinpoint exactly what they are looking for. This way it would be easier to collect the exact information one requires without checking through chapters of one page.

And so on with each character. this way it would collect alot more useful information of each characters in there respective existances.

Mystic Monkey 86.128.33.12 21:25, 1 May 2008 (UTC) who faved SNN and credits the hard working Sonic fans.
 * I was thinking about this same thing the other day. What I was thinking was maybe, since there is so much content and technically, a lot of content (such as likes, dislikes and relationships) only applies to certain continuities.  Here's my solution: why don't we use the Sonic the Hedgehog article to show the history of the character in addition to a summary of the different continuities, each with a main article template that would link to pages such as the ones you are thinking of. Stumpers 00:24, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Like what they generally have in common as a breif and show where to go from there? Thats better than what I had in mind than ending up at a disambiguation crossroad.

Mystic
 * Basically. Regardless of which storyline you follow, it's still the same Sega license, so I think we can expand on that more than we currently do.  Plus, then we don't have to worry about users attempting to define certain storylines as canon or non-canon (usually you see this arguement as something being canon to the games or not) because of a theory of theirs, as often happens on fictional Wikis. Stumpers 04:57, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. Sure some of us prefer to follow one plot than another, but all in all, if it has Sonic on it should be dealt with fairly. Just suggesting some conveniance methods so people won't have to look through a huge page or lots of pages for something. Thanks for Listening.

Mystic Monkey -86.128.33.12 12:41, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm glad you feel that way! I'm on another Wiki where there are certain things unproved to be separate from the video game continuity and they are shoved to the bottom of the character articles, and in them changes made are called inconsistencies with the video games and so on, even when it was released before a particular video game!  So, just FYI that's what I'm hoping doesn't happen here, but luckily we have more clearly defined boundaries with this series.  And, of course since we're catering to fans, we should try to cater to all fans, which is why I feel your idea is great: the fans that only are interested in the video game series can go to that page and not need to worry about something only being applicable to another continuity.  Win-win, IMO! Stumpers 21:51, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I think that it's a good idea.I would do it,but i only know how to create talk articles.I joined yesterday.4 tildes live and learn

Holli?
Ages back, when I had to go to my public library for internet, I checked up on Sonics "real" name as I once considerd that Sonic was just an alt name like Tails actual name is Miles Prower etc.

Now it was ages ago but I was looking through some sites and found an interview where Sonics before name or "Secret identidy" could be 'Holli'.

As it was ages back, I was naive and wasn't up to date with the Sonic fandom without internet so I got excited and grafted the name in my memory. Sure I may have stumbled onto a joke and wised up these days but still might as well do all for this place. Never saw that site again.

I dunno if Sonic was a regular hedgehog and wasn't always blue like in the European origin story but if anyones kind enough to help me authenticate, it would put abit off my mind as well. Thanks.

Mystic Monkey --86.128.33.12 02:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

PS. Talking about Sonic from the game series... and maybe StC if that the canon games do accept and share the same with Europeans view. I prefer to believe and stick with game reality than other.

I heard his full name was Oglivile Maurice hedgehog...Wow. Sounds worse than Mr. NeedleMouse.

Sonic's Height
In the old SatAM show, it was "about 3'4''" in the words of Sonic in the episode Sonic Conversion. Worthy of mention?

home
Acording to the Japanese instruction manuels,Sonicwas always on Earth.I edited the part that said he was on Mobius in the recent games.Liveandlearn 04:01, 12 July 2008 (UTC)liveandlearn

well sonic lives on the planet earth ,he always lived on earth.the word mobius was just used by naka by describing the loops or something and it was mistranslated for the home of sonic


 * Guys,Mobius=Sonic 1 and CD.Earth = Sonic 3>(forwards).Get it?SatAM was always in Mobius.Obvious.

Age
In the Japanese instruction manuel,Sonic is 10.Sonic 2 says 11.Age isn't mentioned until Sonic Jam,which says 15-16.Sonic Adventure 1&2 and Sonic Heroes say 15.Sonic Chronicles says 17.Since the majority say 15,his age will be listed as such.69.149.254.96 00:53, 26 July 2008 (UTC)liveandlearn,though not signed in right now.
 * I've got Chronicles and it never said anything about his age.Fair field fencer F F F  10:25, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Shouldn't we mention all those ages on the article and since Sonic Chronicles is the most recent we should probably set that as the default age for him. - User:Slayer25769.

Shouldn't you consider that Sonic can be aging, I mean as far as I know right now, Shadow is the only hedgehog that can't age... -- Shadow the Hedgehog  Befriend me... Or perish at my feet!  19:25, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, you have to remember that real-life time isn't the same as in-game time.--Kagi mizu -Seeya  'round ~ 19:31, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

i recall the Sonic 3 Players guide back in 1994. It said Sonic was 18, Knuckles was 15 and Tails was 5. Sonictoast 00:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I am starting to think that japan sonic is a little kid and the U.S Sonic is supposed to be older.

Supersonicdude91

Shadic?
Im sure that Sonic+Shadow Fusion for Shadic is not real and purely fanfiction. Permit to delete?--Mystic Monkey 13:07, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Did you check the super form page.If not,add Shadic into it.The Tails Doll Killer 05:00, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * No, I'm pretty cirtan Shadic is fanon, as is Phoenix. Flashfire212 09:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Storyline
Shouldn't we write about Sonic's role in each game's storyline? This would allow to portray him more easily as a character? I'll wait for your answer. Leader Vladimir

Comic section
It's too long. We'd be better off simply making a new article with this information. Like Sonic the Hedgehog (comic character). The info was simply copied from The Archie Sonic Wiki, not that I'm judging. I have copied info from other articles to different wikis myself. Saves the hassle of having to look through all sorts. But seperating the comic section into an article would be a good idea. In fact, I think there should be articles for individual versions of character if they've got enough info.Fair field fencer F F F  16:49, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Personally, I feel that's very unnecesary. We just need to trim it to give a basic summarization of his role in the comics, not a full story, lol. What do others think? <font color="#BF00FF">LORD  <font color="#CCFF00">SLJCOAAATR  <font color="#FFEF00">Sonic Wikia Admin 17:05, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Detailed articles and sections are good if somebody's looking up a subject, but two major histories in one article is too many. I say merge the comic info into the article I've suggested and simply leave a small summary here and a link to the comic article.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  17:15, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Meh. If you insist. <font color="#BF00FF">LORD  <font color="#CCFF00">SLJCOAAATR  <font color="#FFEF00">Sonic Wikia Admin 23:45, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Quotes
Why does Silver have quotes but Sonic doesn't? Enzeru 17:46, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Birthplace & Backstory
Are there any details on this Christmas Island place? What's more, is there anything on his backstory? I'm fourteen (15 20/06/09), so I haven't really played the early sidescrollers and 3D games. I just haven't seen anything on the subjects, so I'm just askin'.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 23:20, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Games.
Sonic has one of the longest pages in this Wikia, but his page doesn't really explain his part in some of the games, mainly after Sonic Adventure because most of his old games are "STOP EGGMAN" I think that We could move most of his conception stuff to another page and explain his roles in the games, comics, and tv shows, like most of his friends. Any ideas? <font color="#000080">Shadic <font color="#000000">the  <font color="#000080">Hedgehog  11:40, 30 May 2009 (UTC)


 * In general, we are trying to move information about the comics and TV shows into separate articles, like Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie), Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic the Comic), Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic X), etc. I don't feel that it would serve any purpose to separate out the conception stuff, but we should definitely have a new section on his role in the games. Feel free to add one! -- Supermorff 13:26, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Quotes
In my opinion, I think most of those quotes really aren't needed. -- Y o r kayyy!  RAWR! 21:10, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * If you feel that way, remove them, but be prepared that somebody may disagree and add them back again. -- Supermorff 21:15, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, I really don't wanna get anybody mad. But a "quote" is something that somebody says regularly. Sonic only said these things like, once, in a game. -- Y o r kayyy! [[Image:Smile spin.gif]] RAWR! 21:19, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I personally believe that a quote is something memorable that a person says. They don't have to say it regularly.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 19:35, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * In other words, something that helps show or emphasize that character's personality, beliefs, and morals.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 03:14, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree. The quotes aren't really needed. Besides, this article is already too big. Alexrd 15:12, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Too Big!
Wholly Moly! I know I can be rude (and I know I have been, recently, so sorry), but how many pictures do we need!? In my opinion, I think the Gallery section could be scaled down a fair bit. I just don't think we need 10 pictures for what 3 or 4 could show. Just my opinion.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 16:46, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree, but probably best not to trim too fast. Perhaps we should limit to two pictures per game or something? -- Supermorff 20:58, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, I said 3 or 4 because 2 seemed too small. Also, I didn't mean it literally. I'm just saying we should trim it down from 50 or something pictures to a smaller number, like 30. I don't know the exact number, but it could be a little lower.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 21:10, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Or how about a subpage? Like Sonic/Gallery or somethin similar and just have the important pics that help explane Sonic's story in there?CLARKMASTER! 21:15, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmm, yeah, yeah! A gallery article for characters with huge galleries. We oughtta clear it with an admin or bearecrat first though, but I think it could work.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 21:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Two pictures per game was actually my suggestion, because I don't think that's too small at all. If you want to try setting up galleries on separate pages, do a trial run first so that we can see what it will be like. Maybe just try for Sonic before applying to other characters, for example. -- Supermorff 21:02, 7 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, FFF is against it, but someone could try it (I don't know how to make redirects, or move certain parts of an article). I wish I could do it myself, but I have little experience in that field.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 21:09, 7 July 2009 (UTC)


 * 103, that is how many pictures are in Sonic's gallery. That's all I'm gonna say.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 21:59, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * WAY. TOO. BIG!! the amount of pictures must have practically doubled! If this does not constitute an extra article for all the pictures, can someone at least tell that Sonictoast guy to cool it?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 18:06, 17 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't see what the big deal is. The only thing better than 103 pictures of Sonic is 104 pictures of Sonic.  i mean this is his Wiki, He's entitled to the biggest gallery.  Sonictoast 06:47, 19 July 2009 (UTC)


 * A detailed and well-rounded Gallery is good, but not when it takes up a large amount of space, and starts to cause lag. That's why I've suggested a different page for the larger galleries.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 16:07, 21 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The Super Mario Wiki has those separate gallery pages for Mario and Luigi because of their number of pictures. I would be okay if we did that for Sonic.  Though i prefer having the gallery on the same page as the profile.  Sonictoast 18:28, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, looks like the idea was taken seriously! Yay!--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 22:41, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Princess Elise
Who keep removing Princess Elise from Sonic's "Love" category??? Every day I keep having to put it back there! It's getting very irritating -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog  04:03, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it's some "SonElise" hating IP who's doing it. Anyways, it probably doesn't go there unless signified as "Sonic Next Gen before time was reset" maybe? In any case, you might want to keep an eye on the page a little earlier in the day to catch the guy doing it, so you can catch the guy redhanded.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 04:17, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, while I personally don't approve of the pairing, I get up at 6:40 a.m. Portland Time, so I could keep an eye out for the guy if you want.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 04:21, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, that'd help a lot. Also, after you undo his/her edit, be sure to remember the IP Address. I wanna talk to this stinkin' SonElise hatin' vandaliser!! -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog  04:26, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I have a problem with SonAmy fan(s)!
I have once written in Sonic's personality, "He is also well known for his brother-like friendship with Miles "Tails" Prower and his uninterested romantic relationship with Amy Rose."

But instead someone wrote "and the "will they or won't they" romantic relationship with Amy Rose".

I thought it was ridiculous to write in such a style, so then I wrote "his uninterested romantic relationship with Amy Rose" again.

Then that "Will they or won't they" thing showed up.

Then I wrote something like: He's not interested in having a girlfriend neither he really thought about it.

Then it was written "his ambiguous romantic relationship ith Amy Rose"

Then I typed "he is not interested in romantic relationships, especially with Amy."

I assume that SONIC DOESN'T LIKE AMY, because he has never shown any interest in her in any media, right? And besides if he does, I think it would be more appropriate to type that he is uninterested in her, because in all media it is always like this:

Sonic:Uh-oh (runs)
 * 1.(Amy is coming)

Sonic: Ah!...Amy!? (runs away)
 * 2. Amy: Sooonnniiicccc!

Tails: Amy's coming Sonic! Sonic: Uh-oh! Better hide!
 * 3. In Sonic Battle:

Amy: Hey Sonic! Sonic:Oh, *puts his eyelids down*...Amy... Sonic:Don't tell me you joined in too!? Amy: It looked so exciting! Why wouldn't I join? And besides I'll be keeping my eyes on you! (comes closer and winks at him) Sonic:...Ewwhh...(disgusted)
 * 4. In Sonic Riders:

Sonic:Amy? What are you doing here? Amy:Fated lovers are akways drawn together, silly. (winks) Sonic:(embarrased or disgusted) *mumbles* ...Amy...
 * 5.Sonic Riders:Zero Gravity:

(Amy hugs him) Sonic:AGKH! Lemme go!
 * 6.Sonic Unleashed:

There is more. But doesn't this mean he is uninterested? Every Sonic fan knows that he is uninterested in Amy when it comes to romance. It is shown in every media. He doesn't like romance, it is even clearly mentioned in Sonic Central that he is uninterested in romance, especially with Amy.

Am I right?-- 58SlugDrones! 'I WILL SHOOT YOU INTO AN OBLIVION!'  09:40, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but there has also been evidence that shows he may like her. You've only mentioned the evidence against it, not the evidence for it. I think that those SonAmy fans are actually being reasonable, in that while they could say that Sonic likes Amy, they instead say "Will they or won't they" or "Ambiguous relationship", meaning that Sonic may like her, he may not. I'm a SonAmy fan admittedly, and as far as the relationship thing goes, they are actually being reasonable, compared how to some Users and IPs have acted on the whole Knuxouge vs Shadouge thing.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 14:10, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

....!....*sigh* Well, there is so romantic relation in the series except this:


 * 1. Amy likes Sonic


 * 2. Rouge likes Knuckles

And anyways, none of the games have shown that Sonic is interested...tch..kuh..okay maybe it is hinted (I haven't noticed any hints) but most of the times (and almost in EVERY game) he is uninterested in her, he always tries to get away from her, and he has never gotten near for trying to confess or hinting that he has feelings for her. And why would Sonic hide his feelings like that?

Right?

And besides in Sonic Central, it is mentioned that he is uninterested in romantic relationships because he doesn't have the time, and in Sonic Riders proves that he thinks it's disgusting (like me!). And Yuji Naka did say that Sonic will never get married (this also proves that Sonic doesn't like romance like me!)-- 58SlugDrones! 'I WILL SHOOT YOU INTO AN OBLIVION!'  12:31, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, Sonic Riders never showed that Sonic is disgusted by Amy, albeit just bothered a little by her constant pursuit of him. Also, there was that official Q&A that said that Sonic is indeed interested in Amy, he just can't admit it. Also, I've noticed a few hints, not all of them conclusive of romance, but do prove that he does indeed care about Amy.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 14:39, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, he was disgusted by Amy, see that cutscene where they are in that forest-like place, when Amy winks at him, Sonic seems to hesitate or feel bothered because she said,"And besides I'll be keeping my eye on you." just see his face expressions, he seems to freak out. He did the same in SRZG, when she winked at him, he was embarrased.

And, so what? Doesn't Sonic care about all of his friends? See how nice and caring he is to Shahra in SATSR. Nobody ever said about Sonic loving Shahra because they are just good friends. So that's the same with Sonic and Amy.

Isn't it true, that he is not interested in Amy, he always tries to get away from her, especially when she's mad. Even if he does like her, he is still not interested to confess it to her. And besides, that's what Amy was meant to do, chase after him, trying to win his heart but she can't and never will...well that's what Yuji Naka said. Although Sonic finds Amy annoying, but he still takes her as a friend.

SEGA will never give Sonic a relation in canon series (aka videogames).-- 58SlugDrones! 'I WILL SHOOT YOU INTO AN OBLIVION!'  01:03, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Alright: 1: He is not disgusted by Amy, he has never been disgusted by her, only annoyed with her or embarrassed by her. There is a BIG difference between those words. 2: He is indeed interested in Amy. 3: You've just proven my point! Sonic and Amy's feelings are mutual (though differing in strength of those feelings), but whether or not they will ever have a relationship is the big question. It's been a huge debate that even the Sonic Team have taken notice of. So, that's why fans put "ambiguous" or "will they or won't they", because fans know they both like each other, they just don't know if anything will come of that relationship. So, now do you get my point?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 01:21, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Listen. He doesn't, he has no feelings for her. He thinks she's a pain in the neck. He doesn't want her love. He doesn't want to return his feelings..why? Because he doesn't like her! He gets annoyed by her, because he doesn't want her to get all romantic because he doesn't like her back.

Yuji Naka said that they'll never get a chance to get married, it's more like an Amy-style to always chase Sonic...why? Because he doesn't like her. They'll never get married because Amy will never win Sonic's heart.

He freaks out due to her arrival, doesn't that mean that he is uninterested? He is always not interested in her, weants to escape from her.

Maybe he likes her, maybe it's his secret, maybe he likes someone else, maybe he cares for her (ofcourse he does!) but he is uninterested in her.-- 58SlugDrones! 'I WILL SHOOT YOU INTO AN OBLIVION!'  05:22, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

You know what 58, this is starting to sound more like your personal opinion on the subject. Yes, Sonic and Amy will most likely never tie the knot, and that makes a lot of sense. However, that last sentence you said, one again, proves my point. Their relationship is not concretely known! So, that's why fans put "will they or won't they" or "ambiguous"; because no one knows how Sonic feels about Amy for sure! I could be right, you could be right, but we don't know!--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 04:36, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

...!....but...umm...I did agree with you, maybe he might (BUT I STILL THINK HE DOESN'T) I am taking your point of you, I'm not saying that he completely doesn't like her it can be possible (BUT I STILL THINK HE DOESN'T).

All I'm saying that he isn't interested, not that he doesn't like her (FOR ME, HE DOESN'T. Half of it I'm saying that he might but on the whole I'm saying that he isn't interested.

Thanks for calling me 58, I miss that nickname, no one calls me that anymore. You made think of those goods old times when I used to play evil on this website and everyone went against me *sigh* (I'm so emo!). Yup good times! I really put some effort those days.-- 58SlugDrones! 'I WILL SHOOT YOU INTO AN OBLIVION!'  13:56, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've decided to conclude this debate by posting a link to the interview by Sonic Team where it is confirmed that Sonic indeeds has feelings for Amy beyond friendship. It is no longer a subjective topic so 58SlugDrones, quit rewriting the Amy Section with out-of-context accounts of Sonic and Amy's interaction with one another. These articles are supposed to be a resource of fact and verification, not for you to interject your selective reasoning and personal opinion. Save that for the Sonic fansites.

YOU IDIOT!!! You've invoked the wrath of 58! I'm all for the cause, and yes, the site you linked to has some interesting and convincing points, but 58 already thinks that interview is fake, so you're efforts are futile!!!

-SalaComMander

I completly agree with 58.

-James50

(Character)
I noticed something. You see, Sonic and Shadow both have a game that uses their full names, but I noticed that the Shadow the Hedgehog article isn't called "Shadow the Hedgehog (Character)". So uh, why exactly did we do that?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 16:27, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Launch, I've changed Sonic the Hedgehog back so it redirects to the character page. This is a pragmatic issue, because far more articles that link to Sonic the Hedgehog are actually referring to the character. -- Supermorff 17:29, October 6, 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, I'm also moving the Shadow articles back the way they were. This is because a dedicated disambiguation page is unnecessary, since the only two things that "Shadow the Hedgehog" may refer to are the character and the game - all that is needed is a disambiguation line of text at the top of the page, linking to the game, which we already have. -- Supermorff 17:38, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Well, I wasn't complaining, it's just something I noticed.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 18:08, October 6, 2009 (UTC) .

Backstory
Um, has anyone else noticed that we know absolutely nothing about Sonic's backstory? I mean really, all we know is that he was born on Christmas Island, met Eggman at some point, decided to try and stop Eggman, and that's it. We don't know who Sonic's family is, how Sonic got his superspeed, any of that stuff. Now that I think about it, it's actually the same for every character, except a select few. Does anyone else think that makes for some decent trivia?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 20:41, October 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * Nope. That is, in fact, the absence of trivia. -- Supermorff 20:49, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

???--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 20:50, October 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't see the point in saying that we don't know something. There are a lot of things we don't know. Let's focus on what we do know. Besides, as you said, a lot of other characters are the same, so it's not even as if we should expect to know. -- Supermorff 20:59, October 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * Simple as pie my good friand, simply read the comics to find all the info you need, glad this worked out.


 * To Supermorff: Well, it's just that with all of the latest characters (exluding Silver and to a lesser extent, Blaze), there whole life is laid out for us in their debuting game, and Shadow has had his entire life explained, while with some of the first characters, like Tails, Amy, Knuckles, and Sonic himself, all we know is their history from their first game onwards, and nothing before that.
 * To ???: Uh, dude, that's for the comic continuity only, which is not canon to the game continuity, which is what I am talking about.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 22:12, October 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * Many of the things you mentioned (family, how they got super powers, how they met their nemesis) have not been revealed for Silver or Blaze either. But in any case, this simply amounts to: we know more about some characters than other characters. I don't see how that is notable. -- Supermorff 18:41, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Well, it's just something I noticed that bugs me a little. I already took note of the fact that Silver and Blaze are exceptions, but some of these characters that have been around for only a few years, if that, have their whole story laid out, while the characters who started this franchise have nothing said about their past. I mean, how did Sonic get his superspeed? Why does Tails have his two tails? When did Knuckles become Guardian of the Master Emerald? How did Amy get the Piko Piko Hammer? What's more, who are their parents, where are they, and what happened to them? These are just a few questions that have come to my mind.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 19:02, October 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * And yet, the answers to those questions don't have any impact on the characters as they are now. From a storytelling perspective, there is no real reason to give any backstory about these now-iconic characters. However, if you do want answers, then the best bet (as ??? says, above) is to pick some other continuity and go with what they say. -- Supermorff 19:11, October 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * To Kagimizu: From your question about Sonic's speed, the American manual of Sonic the Hedgehog (16-bit) says his sneakers give him super speed, and in Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, his sneakers still give him super speed. But in the newer adventures, it doesn't say how he has super speed. My guess is he was born with it. -- Unregistered Contributor.

Gallery
I've been hearing that one of the new 'rules' is that each article can only contain a maximum of 10 pictures per gallery, so that they don't overflow. But here's an idea: why not, instead of 10 pics, have one picture from each game in the gallery? It wouldn't be too many pics, and it would really balance out that section. -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog  03:02, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Well, I wouldn't mind that personally, so long as people add any other pics to the /Artwork subpage, because that's what the thing is for!--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 03:12, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Great! Now would you please tell that to Paintballer, otherwise he'll just delete whatever new images are there and ban any IPs who add to it. -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog  03:20, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

By Paintballer, I assume you mean LB. And don't worry, he doesn't seem to check the galleries. Oh and Shelly, I think you should check your signature.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 03:23, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Detailed Story description?
I made an edit explaining in far greater detail Sonic's role in Sonic Adventure. Now, I'm not saying that the decision to undo the edit was a bad one. I just personally think the edit was a step up from how it was before. I think if we are gonna talk about the character, we should cover ALL the details, that includes his role in each game in detail.

Now, I know that my telling of his role was probably a bit wonky and inaccurate --after all, I myself don't like Sonic Adventure a lot-- but, that's where the rest of the community should come into play, altering the thing till it's really as accurate as possible -- after all, isn't that what this wiki is dedicated to, "becoming the ultimate source for all things Sonic"

- standard header

Herman2000 18:42, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Locked?
From what I can tell, the page has been locked -- but WHY? Herman2000 19:34, November 2, 2009 (UTC)


 * From what I can tell, it's only locked to unregistered users. If you've got a username, it shouldn't make any difference. And since anyone can register, I don't see the problem. -- Supermorff 19:58, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

I myself am registered, but I cannot edit this character, so, it's not "only locked to unregistered users". So, there is a problem. User-697. Nothing less. Maybe more. 21:16, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

I had protected it merely because parts, or should I say, "chunks", were being taken out of Sonic's article, namely in the "love life" section. Someone keeps taking out love interests of his from other continuities. Sally Acorn, Breezie, etc. Only late did I realize that  Supermorff  -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog  05:20, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it's not some IP. It uhh, was Supermorff. I've been meaning to talk to you two about that.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 05:24, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

...Funny, I thought I just SAID that. -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog  05:32, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Shelly, you should know this by now, I'm not the most perceptive guy around.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 05:46, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I know it. The question is, "will I ever stop correcting you?" -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog  05:59, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

This coming from the girl who didn't know the difference between admins and bureaucrats? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't I have to remind you at some point who the active admins are? You really wanna play this game Shelly?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 20:51, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

That's it, I'm finished talking to you two. -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog  03:45, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Shelly, you are joking, aren't you? I was just playing around.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 03:48, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

I thought the article was locked from being edited by unregistered users? Herman2000 23:51, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it was. Shelly thought it was an IP undoing her edits, not a fellow admin (and now bureaucrat).--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 07:39, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Well, in the light of the recent Article-deletion that happened yesterday, I suggest that, maybe, that be brought back into place? Herman2000 11:38, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Which article got deleted? -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog  06:10, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

At the time I wrote my last message, the content of this character-article got deleted almost completely by an unregistered user. I undid the edit that caused that. Herman2000 12:28, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Whoa! That was vandalism! Thanks, Herman! *locks page, swallows key* -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog  04:15, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Damnit, that happened again!? That's it! Leave the article locked I say!--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 04:20, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

And Launchbanner, you try unlocking that page ONE more time regardless of reason, we're gonna have problems, you and me! *cracks knuckles* -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog  04:25, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

LB, since a 'crat (Shelly) can strip an admin (you) of their abilities and rank, I strongly suggest you listen to her.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 04:29, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

sonic's age
sonic is 18 years old--alex t hedgehog76.111.246.172 23:55, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

No, he's not. The official Sonic Channel profile page lists Sonic's age as 15 in-universe. Herman2000 03:49, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

He was 10 in the first game, 11 in Sonic CD (based on Amy who was 8 in that game, but 12 from Sonic Adventure onwards), 14 in Sonic 3 (based on Knuckles who was 15 in that game) and 15 from Sonic Adventure onwards. --Vae Infectus 16:39, December 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure extrapolating from the ages of other characters is appropriate. -- Supermorff 17:48, December 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Sonic is and has always been 15 (or 16). http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v506/FoxPrower/Sonic%20The%20Hedgehog/bio.png and in AoStH Robotnik called him a "teenager". (A. Friend)

(facepalms) Sonic, I love ya and all, by WHY chili dogs? WHY?! They're disgusting! Shima the Hedgehog 16:40, January 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * First of, tastes differ, what one thinks disgusting another may love. Second, I thought it was established that this page is about discussing the article's content rather than the character? Herman2000 19:11, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Sonic is 15, as stated on Sonic Channel.  Myself  <font color="Black">123  20:23, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

hail storm
something's wrong with the "ム" on "ヘイルストーム", try putting it on source mode.186.10.29.64 17:41, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Quote
"What you see is what you get, just a guy that loves adventure. I'm Sonic the Hedgehog!" -- Sonic All I wanna know is, when did he say this? -- Shelly ' the ' Hedgehog  I'm not a monkey! 02:56, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Gives a reference. It says he said that two Shadow in SA2 before their second battle.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 02:59, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Kagi. I was afraid no one would answer my question -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog  I'm not a monkey!  03:04, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

The Gloves
Is there any source that states why Sonic characters wear gloves other than for just character design.


 * All the main characters of the series have gloves, is a sort of "normal hand" of them, nothing really that worth to bother with. BGMaxie (talk)
 * Guess they think it's comfortable like you never know when eggman makes a blizzard 69.34.212.118 03:35, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

whats up with sonic's speed???
every time i look at sonic's face i think about speed. hmm--i wonder he's so addicted to speed *ZOOM*  Jet  the Hedgehog bye-bye

It's actually quite simple. When he was young, he LOVED to run. By the time he was ten, he could already run as faster as a jet, so Uncle Chuck created the sneakers Sonic wears as they're the only ones that burn up or wear down from the great friction when Sonic runs. He was also very impatient, still is too. Sonic & Scrab  Master


 * Of course, the above explanation is only canon to the SatAM cartoon and/or the Archie comics. It was never stated why Sonic, in the games, likes to run as much and as fast as he does. Herman2000 01:24, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

58SlugDrones!'s recent edit
I do not see a SINGLE reason why MAJOR edits are so DISCOURAGED around here AGAIN, and to be honest, the way this one admin, Kagimizu, is handling it just doesn't add any positive light on the matter, either. Why discourage a perfectly fine edit like that? It doesn't make a shred of sense to discriminate an edit simply for it's length. As long as it's factual and doesn't destroy the article, it should be fine! Besides... didn't Fairfieldfencer say something about this being okay actually when I complained about that very same discrimination? --Herman2000 00:20, May 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Kagimizu has a habit of reverting edits without considering their benefit. Edit seemed fine to me. -- Supermorff 08:34, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Firstly, Herman; you have a problem with the way I do things, have the guts to say it to my face. Secondly, I am confused about this edit, but for one reason only: I could swear that Sonic's article already had such details on his relationships with other characters.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round ~ 18:07, June 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, it didn't have any such content last time I checked, and you seemed pretty unsure in your reply there about whether that existed or not, which just goes to show that your one problem (which in turn is the problem that I do have with the way you do things) seems to be big edits. Adding large, detailed descriptions is discouraged by you under the pretense that it has do be discussed by the administration, which never, or very slowly, happens, and frankly, that's discouraging one from contributing at all. Herman2000 20:57, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

hedgehog curiosity
i was just wondering something. i may seem like a massive weirdo, but im not really. i read somewhere about what species of hedgehog sonic is most likely to be, but i cant find it, and now im really curious. does anyone happen to know?

hedgehog curiosity
i was just wondering something. i may seem like a massive weirdo, but im not really. i read somewhere about what species of hedgehog sonic is most likely to be, but i cant find it, and now im really curious. does anyone happen to know?


 * He has a bare belly, like the Bare-Bellied Hedgehog.. Brandt's Hedgehog is a bluish color and is a fast runner... but uh.. they probably had no specific species in mind

Friendships
Throughout the years Sonic has made many friends and allies, even those that has not been in his friendship roster. Just like Mario from Nintendo, Sonic has made many friends from other Sega, well mostly characters created by Sonic Team. Characters which includes Amigo, NiGHTS, Billy Hatcher etc. Another thing is that Sonic has appeared in other games such as Christmas NiGHTS into Dreams, Sonic's very first true 3D appearance, and Samba De Amigo Wii. Don't you think you should put this info on Sonic's bio/info?

Good idea. Why don't YOU? -- Shelly   the  Hedgehog  I'm not a monkey!  05:10, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Sonic can run on Water...?
Is it already put down or should we add that in the Sonic X comics, Sonic can run on top of water, same as in Sonic Unleashed. However, in the TV Sonic X, he can't. Just wondering if we should put that down. Sacorguy79 11:38, August 12, 2010 (UTC)Sacorguy79

I don't know, but you should probably mention on his Sonic X page, as opposed to here.  Myself <font color="Black">123  11:41, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

If I Can Put This
If I Can Put This In the Article Is The Update Of Is Advance Sprite Leonardo Javier Faneite Freitas 18:04, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

No. Sonic &amp; Scrab  Master   Kongosoha!  18:17, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Ok Leonardo Javier Faneite Freitas 18:19, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

And This?Is The Super Smash Flash 2 Artwork Leonardo Javier Faneite Freitas 18:44, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Again, NO. Stop asking to include artwork from fan games. Sonic &amp; Scrab  Master   Kongosoha!  18:47, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Ok Leonardo Javier Faneite Freitas 18:49, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Sonic's Love

 * Hint : Guess Sonic doesn't love "Amy", maybe because he's already have a love included "Sally Acorn".


 * That really depends on the continuity yer looking at. In the games, Sally doesn't exist (besides an animal friend who is called Ricky in the Japanese version). In the Fleetway Comics, there is a Sally-character, but she's just the same animal friend as in the game. In AoStH, she did appear as part of the Christmas Blast special, though I'm unsure what relation she had there... In the Saturday Morning cartoon, Sally was Sonic's love interest, yes. In the Archie Comics, she used to be Sonic's love interest, too, but from what I remember, they broke up, right? --Herman2000 19:31, October 25, 2010 (UTC)




 * @Herman: Yeah they broke up in "issue 134", but they got back together in "issue 212". 216.240.90.224 20:28, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * But Amy is his girlfriend isn't she? SeanWheeler 23:06, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Not officially, no. She claims to be, but Sonic doesn't seem to have accepted her as such. --Herman2000 19:25, November 12, 2010 (UTC
 * Not officially, no. She claims to be, but Sonic doesn't seem to have accepted her as such. --Herman2000 19:25, November 12, 2010 (UTC

I basically would've said what the UC said. Sonic doesn't love Amy, it's the other way around. I have noticed that between Archie and Sonic Team, Sonic's personality is different in Archie and does have love for someone. That is Sally. Sacorguy79: I'll have to give myself a 19:29, November 12, 2010 (UTC)Sacorguy79

Sonic's Family
It's unknown about Sonic's past and if he has or doesn't have a family. Some fans ask about who is sonic's mother or father and if he has a brother or sister in the video game series.Sonic100jam 07:29, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

well in the game continuity we haven't seen any relatives although in the archie continuity he has a mother called bernadette and a father called jules, in sonic underground continuity he has a brothe named manic and a sister called sonia Ediskrad327 05:44, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Obviously,archie comics are more canon 69.34.212.118 03:39, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Alternate versions
I have always been curious about the whole alternate version thing. I think someone at Sega said that the Sonics in the TV series and the comics are alternate versions of Sonic. Probably when the creators of the TV series and the comics created their Sonic media, they meant for the main character of their series to be the actual Sonic. I just don't understand it!


 * Well, at least as far as the portrayal of the characters is concerned, it's obvious that they're not the same characters between media -- so the Sonic from the Comics is not the same as the one in the games, who in turn is not the same as the one in the cartoons etc. --Herman2000 18:31, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Boss?
Sonic himself is fought as a Boss in Sonic Rush when one plays as Blaze the Cat, and again when controlled by the Ifrit in Sonic Rivals 2. Due to this would it or would it not be reasonable to add the Bosses category to this article?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 20:39, January 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't forget Shadow the Hedgehog.  Myself  <font color="Black">123  21:25, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

Oh yeah, that too. Okay, with three games to prove it, I'm adding the category.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 21:42, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

And if those 3 aren't enough, there's Sonic '06 where he is a boss for Silver, and Sonic Heroes where he fights Team Rose and Team Dark as part of Team Sonic. Thinking about it, there are other playable characters who also appear as bosses.  Myself  <font color="Black">123  21:58, January 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm drawing towards the opinion that characters should not be categorised as bosses. Instead, we should create a page for the boss battle specifically (e.g. Sonic the Hedgehog (boss), or Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic Rivals 2 boss) or whatever). Thoughts? -- Supermorff 17:30, February 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's quite commendable, Supermorff, however it leads to the issues of how other characters have been specifically used as bosses in those games, meaning that other characters would have to have boss articles based on their scenes in Sonic Rivals/2. I'll have to give myself a [[File:Promotion image.jpg]] 19:30, February 8, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

Speed of Sound
The speed of sound isn't "more than" Mach 1, it is Mach 1.

So what? Sonic's proven many times that he can go above and beyond Mach 1. Way beyond...

-<font color="#000000">SalaComMander 05:18, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

So the article looks terrible and childishly written.

Yeah, I'm sure we'll get right on that. Imagine our embarrassment when we discovered that some random guy tells us that our page has a minor flaw in it that somehow causes the rest of the article to suddenly become "terrible and childishly written".

-<font color="#000000">SalaComMander 05:24, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Pics
Hello, I'd like to know where the pictures in the relations section came from...I think that some of them belong to sonic advance 3 but the others (sonic and knuckles arguing, sonic running away from amy and the other one of sonic and tails) do they belong to the same game? I'd really like to know, sorry if my english sounds strange, i'm chilean.

All the images in order of appearance on the page are:
 * Sonic Advance 2
 * Sonic Advance 3
 * Sonic Rush
 * Sonic Advance 2
 * Sonic Advance 3
 * Sonic Rush
 * Sonic Advance 2
 * Shadow the Hedgehog (game)

Hope that helps!  Myself  <font color="Black">123  20:46, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Me ayudo un monton, muchas gracias :)

Sonic X
Okay, I look through this page, and i see random topics. I've got one. In Sonic X, no matter what angle of Sonic you look at, it always seems as if he has three quills. Should i put this up? [|~Leaf the hedgehog]


 * Well, you might wanna consider mentioning it on Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic X), but, not sure what everyone else'd say to that. --Herman2000 19:00, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I believe that's already mentioned in the article.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 19:51, March 10, 2011 (UTC)