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BlueFlametheAman wrote: Journalistic wrote:

BlueFlametheAman wrote:

Journalistic wrote: BlueFlametheAman wrote: Journalistic wrote: BlueSpeeder wrote: Let's go into the root of the problem: why aren't we allowed to talk about trolls? I understand that "not feeding the trolls" should most definitely be a rule, but what's the harm in talking about vandals? Because you're still acknowledging trolls, which you should not do. Trolls wants to capture our attention, so by talking about them in the chatroom or in the mainspace, you're successfully completing a task the troll intended - by talking about them. And then what? What do you mean what? I'm not a storyteller. That's all that is needed to be said. You talked about the short term effects of talking about trolls on chat, but what about the long term effects? What's going to happen beyond "acknowledging the trolls", even though that happens whether or not people do talk about them? "This denies recognition to trolls that might otherwise turn them into long-term abusers." Emphasis on the word "might". Talking about trolls on chat doesn't really have a direct impact on whether or not they do become long-term abusers. Refer to my message above:

''"Let me tell you guys about this user (that I will not mention) that has caused even more damage to this wiki just because this rule isn't enforced:

Now, this rule wasn't enforced by the time this user came by. Given the fact this user made several sockpuppets and vandalized the wiki, it startled if not most of the users of the wiki. However, giving everyone the free will to discuss about this user caused extreme panic, up to a point other users started falsely identifying new editors as a sockpuppet of this user.

Those are the actual, real effects right there. If the rule was enforced then, most if not all of the users will not go hysterical. "''