Thread:Sonicisawesome2448/@comment-477304-20150630114119/@comment-4220590-20160625110208

Sonic saiyan wrote: Iizuka "overlooked his own statement" is ridiculous. He created Shadow, clearly he intended Shadow to need a Chaos Emerald for Chaos Control in SA2. And in SA2 he never is far from an Emerald when he uses Chaos Control - there is no circumstance that even rises to being disputable, he only uses Chaos Control near an Emerald during the entire SA2 story and it is impossible to name even one instance where no Emerald was nearby that you speak of. Therefore he is always close enough to one to draw power from satisfying the need for an Emerald.

It hits a point that to incorporate Chaos Control into Shadow's gameplay in Sonic Heroes, Sonic Team allows Shadow to access a Chaos Emerald BEFORE the player can even collect one Emerald - which means there are technically 8 Emeralds in Heroes when there are supposed to be only 7. This is the first big example where the gameplay of a Sonic game messes up the rules of Sonic's own canon without actually changing the canon (not counting clearly not canon things like the life system) which actually is an important point.

And in Shadow's game, Shadow collects his first Emerald before the player can use any Chaos powers (excluding using obviously non-canon cheats) and please do not bring up the promotional video that plays when the game is first loaded but the player has not actually started story mode - the one that skips around the story's timeline like a movie trailer - it is clearly not canon. And when Doom takes the Emeralds away from Shadow at the end, you cannot prove that Doom floated himself far enough away to cut Shadow off from their power. Though watch Doom closely when he uses Chaos Control - Doom never physically touches a single Emerald yet performs a full power Chaos Control (which indisputedly requires power from all 7) - in fact the Emeralds are initially floating over Shadow's head farther than an arm's length from Doom.

And like I've said a billion times on Sonic Battle already, he has an Emerald from before the start of the story up until nearly the very end, and when he gives up his Emerald and has no Emeralds, he still is close to Gemerl who has all 7 Emeralds so he can still draw power from them.

Even in Sonic Generations, Shadow is close to Emeralds since he is guarding the yellow Chaos Emerald.

Sonic06 is a mess what with Amy learning non-canon chameleon powers, the Emeralds' timelines being indecipherable, and an actual mistake getting into the spoken soundtrack where the voice actor messes up a line and then redoes it, and many other goofs. Early in the story he disappears in light but never called it Chaos Control, therefore since Iizuka said CC requires CE and Shadow did not name call, it must be assumed it is not Chaos Control - an easy fall back is "it was just Shadow's speed", sure it can't be proven but it is the only one that falls in line with the canon without changing anything. Really don't want to get into the rest of this mess.

I never said the Sonic Battle quote is "not correct on this" - i said the Sonic Battle quote DOES NOT SAY WHAT YOU THINK IT DOES. The quote makes literally zero mention of any Chaos power therefore YOU have to prove that the quote says what you think it says but that is impossible because there is no mention of any Chaos power. I really hate repeating myself.

So I'm really tired of repeating myself. Sonic Team has never actively said what you want to actively say in the article about the other Chaos powers. What you have said is speculation that could be true but cannot be proven beyond a reasonable doubt because Sonic Team has never said it. We have to go with the way Sonic Team has handled it by only parroting what Sonic team said: Shadow's Chaos Control requires Chaos Emeralds and he can also use these other Chaos power (no mention of Emerald). It is best to give up on this Sonic saiyan. This user does not give up on his convictions no matter which argument you lay out His reasoning is fundamentally different from the objective view.