Sonic News Network:Requests for User Rights/Rainbowroad6w (Chat Moderator Demotion)

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Rainbowroad6w (Demotion) Rainbowroad6w (Talk):Contributions Edit Count

At the beginning, Rainbow was indeed doing a good job as a Chat Mod, and just recently, he decided to also run for Rollback. However, recently he has also been harassing users on chat, such as calling someone accessing HyperHearts58's account "obsessed", resulting on said person breaking into swearing (the problem was solved later). But most recently, he shamelessly wrote a comment on Firbin4576's blog (link), insulting the whole site. I know he has made some notable videos, but he's pushing it too far. Vote below. Knowall, One Who Seeks Information - December 18, 2011 21:11

Edit from 12/24/2011: A few days ago from the date specified on this edit, I have confronted user Rainbowroad6w on chat about his demotion. He admitted to the claims of harassing other users and posting mean-spirited comments on blogs, one of which technically insulted the entire site. He claims he didn't contain himself back then, and apologizes for the insults. You may inquire him about it, if you wish, for he will confirm this saying. I would also like to apologize myself for the nuisance and to those who already voted supporting his demotion. I ask of you that you take this into consideration and decide what is best, now. Knowall, One Who Seeks Information - December 24, 2011 15:51

Support
VOTING IS NOW CLOSED
 * 1) Yes: He definetly deserves to be demoted. Mariosonic15 Time to speed, keed! 23:21, December 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) I'm afraid So: He has been too quick to react on things occasionally, and has made some of the wrong decision and a bit of harassment. We'll have to give him more time to adjust towards being a better ranking Networker. Serious   Sam  [[File:Minigun icon.png]] Heavy 23:26, December 18, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79
 * 3) Yes: He isn't very respectful towards others. 23:34, December 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) Chatmod yes: He isn't on chat much and I agree he does flame users a tad. -- 23:24, December 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) I haven't seen his activity on the chat, but lots of users are complaining about this, and the insults Sandra the Porcupine "No ordinary porcupine!"   18:50, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose
VOTING IS NOW CLOSED
 * 1) I have changed my mind: Rainbow openly admitted to me on chat and apologized for the insults, and he understands that what he did what wrong and that he didn't contain himself when needed. He will hold himself from now on and refrain his own comments if they are mean-spirited or insulting towards an user or the entire site. --- Knowall, One Who Seeks Information - December 24, 2011 15:56

Discussion
Knowall, One Who Seeks Information – December 19, 2011 16:11 Ok I am speaking here. First off, harsh words heard is actually me trying to be clear in what I'm saying so people will understand me. Maybe I need to explain that after speaking that way. Although it sounds harsh, it's just me being plain serious and trying to make myself clear. It's hard to communicate over the internet, you know.
 * Whoawhoawhoawhoawhoa. What is going on here? What did I ever do? Hyper overreacted because I said she was obsessed. She overreacted. Is it bad to say that? You guys are really freaking out over this? You guys just really don't like me, do you? And what videos?? You guys really hate me... --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher. ( Talk )( Recent finds and updates. ) 18:04, December 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * We don't hate you, but I heard tons of accusations about your behavior towards other users, claiming that you used offensive titles and stuff against them. It's not that we don't like you, but how about that comment you posted on Firbin's blog insulting the whole site? If you can prove us wrong, then okay, you can do it freely. In fact, I'll be actually happy you're standing out for youself and proving me wrong, this is for reasoning, after all. Besides, I DO like your vids!! I acknowledge that every time you post a new one! Heck, half of the site did! ---
 * Actually Supermorff, 58SlugDrones! said this could be deleted.-- Live and Learn [[File:Hyper Shadow.png]] 18:17, December 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, okay, I won't then support a demotion for that reason. But the discussion has been opened and must be seen through. -- Supermorff 21:04, December 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * What reason? Being offensive toward users? --{{User:Bullet Francisco/Signature} 00:01, December 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * For removing the section. -- Supermorff 01:50, December 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * What's goin' on here again? 58 told me I could take it down. --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher. ( Talk )( Recent finds and updates. ) 16:40, December 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Dear everyone, now that the demotion discussion has been started, it must be seen through to its conclusion. Even if you think you've sorted out the issues outside of the discussion (e.g. on talk pages or chat), you have to sort them out here too. Everyone that has changed their opinion (Knowall, I'm looking at you) must move their vote and explain why. I'm willing to leave the discussion up for a few extra days so that people (Rainbow) can convince everyone that voted in favour of a demotion that it's no longer appropriate. -- Supermorff 17:33, December 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Either way, I can openly say that I confronted Rainbow on the chat a few days ago, and he admitted to the claims. Said he was going to watch his ways from that point onwards, and that he would never insult any users or post mean-spirited comments again. And I am being sincere about it. If you wish, you can inquire Rainbowroad6w himself on the subject, he will confirm that we chatted about it. --- Knowall, One Who Seeks Information – December 24, 2011 15:38
 * That's really encouraging, and hopefully will convince people to change their votes, but it's not sufficient to remove a discussion. Knowall, you haven't even voted. Vote to oppose your own nomination. It's allowed. -- Supermorff 17:44, December 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * I included my vote. --- Knowall, One Who Seeks Information – December 24, 2011 15:57
 * After reading through everything, I still believe he should be demoted from chat moderator. Apologizing is great, but it does not excuse his behavior. He can always run for chat moderator again in the long run, and besides, he is hardly on chat, and was never on chat until this discussion opened. Whatever happens, I respect everyones opinion, and I am sorry to anyone who I might have offended by still showing my support here (Knowall and RR). -- 19:21, December 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's your opinion, so I will respect it. --- Knowall, One Who Seeks Information – December 24, 2011 17:35

As for insulting, I never remember doing so, except for the accidental (and regretful) thing I said to Hyper, and when I said I had insulted the whole site. Yes, that's a biggy. But it was more of just me being a little too full of myself that day (I was already in a bad mood) than it was me actually meaningfully insulting the site. That's when you wish you could take these things back. I also heard the my intro line on chat ("Sup chimps") might be insulting. Really sorry. I didn't know that might've been insulting. I've gone back to my old intro line ("Any kickbans lately?" lol).

As for people saying I'm not on chat that much anymore, please hear me out. I've been busy with a thousand other things (especially since it's the Christmas season, I have a lot going on). For one, I was really busy with a big Christmas production (which was seen live on internet as well). And then, I still had school to do (yes, school). Then I also had chores, getting ready for people to come over on Christmas Eve and such. And then, to add on to this, my own record, which is seriously almost done as we are about to finish the last song and get ready to do album artwork and stick it up on iTunes. I have had almost no time whatsoever to even think of getting on chat or editing mainspace or anything. I've had a little bit of time, but most of the time on the computer is spent working on my album, since I'm so close to getting it done. I'm going to admit I'm trying to get out of getting a demotion here, but seriously, for the most part, I'm innocent, or at least I feel that way. I don't feel I'm guilty at all. The worst, I think, I ever got was when I said I was insulting the whole site (and do take note that when I'm in a bad mood, I sorta just don't want anyone telling me I just did something bad... I take too much pride and become a little too full of myself, and I'm trying to work on that). Thank you for taking the time and reading this message. --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher. ( Talk )( Recent finds and updates. ) 16:08, December 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Reset Indent I read through that and I still support your demotion of chat mod, but not rollback. RR should keep rollback, but I still think your chat mod should be removed. -- 02:21, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Conclusion

 * Chat mod demotion - Sorry, Rainbow, but it seems that you and Knowall weren't able to make many people change their minds, so I have decided to remove your rights as chat mod. You are welcome to nominate yourself as a chat mod again at any time. I have not removed your rollback rights, however, because it was not clear in the discussion what people were voting for (except Bullet, who stated his opinions on the rights separately), but most people cited issues in chat as their reasons for voting against you. This discussion will be removed shortly. -- Supermorff (talk) 14:51, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

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