Talk:Sonic Generations

This page is going to be spammed a lot, so we need to protect Sonic Generations... Hey! Bullet!  The Easter Bunny is Here! 01:04, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Picture perfect
Um, how many pictures of the two sonic's running together do we need for this article?--Mystic Monkey sez. 03:06, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Personally, I think we only need one.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 03:41, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Should someone make a page of Classic Sonic, or no? Temporary signature is temporary 06:06, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

My answer would be no. Sonic is Sonic. It doesn't matter what he looks like. There is no need to make more than one article for the same character in the same continuity.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 06:27, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Temporary signature is temporary 06:28, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Anyway if we did make a Classic Sonic page we would need to make a Classic Tails Classic Knuckles Classic Eggman ETC - Robbie the HedgeBoy

just saw thepage and it's true we need only one image Ediskrad327 13:26, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Big change :)
woah this page changed alot! did slugdrones do most of this? he's really good at editing pages. i thought the previous one was good but slugdrones made this page alot better.-- DarkRoUge

No, 58SD did not do this. In fact, 58SD has been inactive for quite awhile.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 05:21, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

but i saw slugdrones do all this. even though he is inactive. check the history! he fixed up the whole page. its like we're nothing without him. -- DarkRoUge

That is not Slugdrones. That's Sonic100jam.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 06:45, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

slugdrones is the one who added the info box, and cleared up all useless information and fan opinions. he made it really neat whereas jam's contributions were just additional slug did the most around here.-- DarkRoUge

December 31st, 2011?
Cant be December 31st 2011 Everything will be shut anyone must of edited that cause there is no proof to me i think it will be Summer or June or july due to a *Fast* Gameplay Trailer

I agree Sega tends to launch there Sonic games around summer. Gives Summer of Sonic something to glee about.--''' Mystic Monkey is at the  Chao Garden  this Easter. ''' 12:46, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

I deleted the December 31st thing because we have no proof its probaly going to be summer or end of summer --Robbie The HedgeBoy 14:02, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Well somebody put it back check it out.phierbalistic 16:50, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Well listen up its turns out thats the RETAILERS date not the Release Date... --Robbie The HedgeBoy 12:14, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

All I know is that, according to an interview on X-Play, the game will be released at the end of this year. KylOverlord 16:35, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Launch Date
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Why did the word holiday make you think November? It's probably referring to summer, maybe even June, when the first game was released.  Myself  123  21:23, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Holiday may be refering to the holiday in the South Hemisphery (Or whatever it's typed)--Luke the hedgehog 17:00, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Page lock
This page has been locked until tomorrow. Now I'm well aware that a Spanish interview mentions something about Tails, Knuckles and Shadow, but this doesn't necessarily mean that those characters are going to be in it. Now the User SonicWiki said that this [roughly] translates into "We have taken every opportunity we can use Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, etc". This sounds to me like they're saying that they might use these characters among others. Therefore, these characters should not be put on the page without a creditable source. Thank you.  Myself 123  00:56, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Well that sounds more solid than the other thing, I only locked the page for a day, so you can add that to the page when the lock is up.  Myself 123  17:50, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Well common protocol is to add characters to the characters section.  Myself 123  18:03, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Just add the characters.  Myself 123  18:18, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Where it says Confirmed Characters. =/ Alter the Wolf   Protector of Chaos   18:24, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Problem with main image
Forgive me I am not an expert on this site's policy but shouldn't only official images be allowed? This image is fan made (albiet using part of an official image) and therefore isn't it fannon? Don't get me wrong it looks awesome but I think it's misinformative to place this image on the Sonic Generations page as the main image because it suggests that this is official artwork from SEGA when it is not.Jacktheinfinite101 02:29, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks.Jacktheinfinite101 02:55, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Too much Artwork
When Sega releases info on new levels, the Gallery section will be filled, shouldn't we lessen the amount of pictures in the gallery?--Bullet Francisco Don't Be a Jerk to the Bullet!  18:07, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah it would probably be a good idea... --Rainbowroad6w 00:15, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Planet Wisp?
Are there any sources that hint that Planet Wisp will be in the game? Otherwise, I think it should be taken out of the article. The Master of War Games! Curiously Adventuring! TheWarGame 19:30, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Discrepency
A few months earlier when a game for Sonic's 20th anniversary was announced, the announcement said it was supposed to be for the Wii, did it not?--Kagi mizu -Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 18:01, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Um everything else says it is only for the XBox 360 and PS3. --Rainbowroad6w 00:14, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

...Actually... check this blog out... --Rainbowroad6w 22:26, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Wait has the game been confirmed for the 3DS?
I just read something and people (like me) are still thinking it could be typo (which has happened before), yet it is unlikely. So, saying this, we obviously know that SEGA themselves have not told us it is for the 3DS. Shouldn't we get rid of this info on the article until we're positive that it'll be for the 3DS? --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher.( Talk )( Wanna check out some recent finds of mine? ) 23:03, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

3DS version, now with extra confirmed
http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=158947 I'd say it's pretty darn official that Sonic Generations is coming to the 3DS. I still don't get SEGA's logic on this, but I'll roll with it since that's one less reason for me to finally cave and spend oodles of money on a PS3. Teamrocketspy621 00:31, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

I just hope this is real this time, this is the only system I have that Sonic Generations is going to be on. The Swell King is invincible!!!!! I am Imsosuperswell1 21:44, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Classic and Modern - That's it
Alright, since this edit war's obviously going to keep going, I'm gonna clear things up here: There is no "Dreamcast Era" in this game. To call it an era of its own is a mockery to the word, since it's barely got any games to justify differentiating it as such. As the clear debut of Sonic's modern design, the "Dreamcast Era" is the earliest part of the Modern Era. If someone wants to disprove me and prove that it's an era of its own, you can either point out that there's a third Sonic running around that I've clearly just missed, or that each system generation gets its own separate era, meaning that there are Master System and Saturn Eras separate from the Classic Era and that Gamecube/PS2/Xbox and Wii/PS3/360 are the other subsections of the Modern Era alongside the Dreamcast Era. Am I saying there won't be stages from Dreamcast games in Generations? Absolutely not - I'm saying that to act like so few games and their respective stages deserve their own era is just looking at this from the wrong angle. The developers have made a clear-cut distinction that there is Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic, Classic gameplay and Modern gameplay, and Classic Era stages and Modern Era stages. It's just the dichotomy of the game. Even if they talk about the inclusion of stages from the Dreamcast games, that does not imply that the Dreamcast games alone get their own separate era. Teamrocketspy621 20:30, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

The director of Sega of America begs to differ! This video was on the page, but was removed for seemingly no reason.  Myself <font color="Black">123  20:53, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

And is the director of Sega of America working on the game himself? I wouldn't expect him to be. Representatives and executives can say things that aren't entirely right when they're talking about things they aren't completely familiar with. Do not put stock in the word of an American branch of a Japanese company. I've heard Nintendo of America say plenty of things that confirmed not to be true, like "There is no Legend of Zelda timeline." It does not make any sense that as few as two games would get their own era, regardless of what an American representative who is not directly working on the game says. Teamrocketspy621 01:02, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Now you're just poking holes in it. I would think that the Director of a gaming company would know what he's talking about. Also, he's the only person to actually say anything about this, though I agree with you that 2 games (there are 3 sonic games on the Dreamcast BTW) isn't enough for an era, that's what he called it, so that's what we're calling it.  Myself <font color="Black">123  18:19, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Dude, Teamrocket, SEGA THEMSELVES said that there is a Dreamcast era. Have you not been watching the interviews with the people working on the game? Because they have been saying that there is "a Classic era, a Dreamcast era, and a Modern era." --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher.( Talk )( Wanna check out some recent finds of mine? ) 00:35, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

It might not just be Dreamcast Games, but also games released during that time. Either that or there will be lots of Dreamcast Game levels in Sonic Generations. The Swell King is invincible!!!!! I am Imsosuperswell1 20:29, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

From today's PR: "Set across three defining eras from Sonic the Hedgehog’s twenty year history, Sonic Generations™ for Nintendo 3DS will see SEGA’s mascot speeding through new stereoscopic 3D levels designed exclusively for the handheld console." THAT'S the kind of proof I was looking for - something on paper, not just an American representative of a company branch that is not actually making the game offhandedly saying "Yeah there's gonna be Dreamcast levels, lol." I rest my case, and I solemnly accept the truth that I was wrong. Somehow, this is not the first time I have thought more logically than the people actually making the games. Teamrocketspy621 18:47, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Dude...that was moronic.

-<font color="#000000">SalaComMander 18:53, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Sala, he admitted he screwed up and you really don't have to tell him that was moronic. That doesn't help anything and doesn't make him feel any better about the fact he screwed up. --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher.( Talk )( Wanna check out some recent finds of mine? ) 18:58, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

He didn't just "screw up", he argued with 100% confirmed facts. He thought he knew more about an unreleased Sonic game than the director of SOA (not to mention insulting his intelligence). The closest he came to admitting he screwed up was claiming that that very same director was not a reliable source of information, thus he couldn't be trusted. Just to clarify, you were aware of all this, right? -<font color="#000000">SalaComMander 19:13, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

...And I suppose you think I'm just some stupid kid now, am I right? I was wrong. Is it not enough for you that I actually came back to this talk page and said, "Yeah, so, you guys were right all along, and I didn't trust sources I shouldn't have doubted," rather than just silently skulk off to lick my wounds? I specifically came back to this page not to reignite arguments, but to admit my undisputed defeat. And what do I get? Someone who I don't know at all, twisting my words to say that I'd called the director of Sega of America unintelligent, rather than just possibly misinformed. I cannot be right every time - although I strive to do so, sometimes logic and common sense just flat-out doesn't square up with how game developers think. And sometimes, I'm not always sure they're the ones making the right decisions in the first place, but that's another story. This is not the first time I have been wrong about something like this, nor will it be the last, I wager. Perhaps next time, I'll just stay silent rather than apologize for such vehement arguing. Teamrocketspy621 00:20, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

You never said you were wrong for doubting the director of SOA. The only thing you admitted was that you were wrong about was the Dreamcast era, and even then, you did it in a manner that made it sound as if our sources aren't as reliable by saying "THAT'S the kind of proof I was looking for - something on paper, not just an American representative of a company branch that is not actually making the game offhandedly saying 'Yeah there's gonna be Dreamcast levels, lol', which, by the way, is insulting his intelligence, and also shows ignorance on your part. I don't think your just some stupid kid, but I do think that you need to learn how things work a little better.

-<font color="#000000">SalaComMander 05:40, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Too Many Pictures
You guys we have got WAY too many gameplay shots. We should cut it down. If we keep this up as new gameplay shots come in, the page will end up being TOO LONG. --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher.( Talk )( Wanna check out some recent finds of mine? ) 00:35, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Great. --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher.( Talk )( Wanna check out some recent finds of mine? ) 01:09, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Exclusives
Are those levels actually stated to be exclusive to the 3DS? Not being a reader of Nintendo Power, I do not know.  Myself  <font color="Black">123  18:21, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

So, Nintendo Power have stated that Casino Night is exclusive to the 3DS but they haven't confirmed Launch Base?  Myself  <font color="Black">123  10:45, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Seaside Hill and City Escape?
Source? Knuckleschaotix 19:27, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Good, somebody deleted it. I didn't think so. Knuckleschaotix 21:14, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

There was no source, so I deleted it.  Myself  <font color="Black">123  21:16, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Warning
If we know who is the unnamed nemesis, please let me make the article of him/her. I never created an article in this wiki before. Respect the Brawler. CesarTeamHYRO 02:43, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

A wiki isn't about who can create a page first, it's about a community contributing to give everyone as much information as possible.  Myself  <font color="Black">123  20:37, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Tails, crisis city and plnte whisp confirmed???
since when were these confirmed?- 14 sonicstar

Tails was confirmed in a video interview at E3 (I posted a source). I haven't heard anything definitive about those other two though. An anonymous source gave TSSZ an alleged complete list of levels, but I don't know if I trust it o_0 Here's the article though, if you'd like to see it: http://www.tssznews.com/2011/06/08/exclusive-source-confirms-near-final-sonic-generations-level-list/ The Variable 06:06, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Archive
It takes forever for this page to load. Can I archive it?--

Bad info
"This is the first game Classic Sonic is rendered in a CGI artwork. " Forgetting 3D Blast, Sonic 3, Sonic Jam, etc, are we?Gerardwayjr 01:30, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Classic Sonic might appear again in the future.
The Wiki page says that Classic Sonic will not appear in the future because of what Aaron Webber stated but it was misinterpreted.

RubyEclipse: Looks like my quote got taken out of context - I can clarify here.

The article cites me saying "only for this game", but that's not actually what is said. The line is: "Just for this game, we brought back Classic Sonic", implying simply that he was brought back specifically for this game, not necessarily 'once and for all'.

Will Classic Sonic ever be seen again in the future? That's a good question, and one that all the teams at SEGA will determine. I'm personally stoked to see him return in this game, and I know many of you guys are, too!http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?374015-Aaron-Webber-confirms-that-Classic-Sonic-is-back-for-this-game-only.&p=6712799&viewfull=1#post6712799

I honestly don't think Classic Sonic will appear again anytime soon, otherwise Modern Sonic's purpose of existence will just become Null then. I think its best that Classic only appears in special occassions in the games or whatever. Lloyd the Cat "I hog that hedgehate!"  21:28, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

One Question
The info of the stages and bosses and stuff, is it even official? CesarTeamHYRO 18:55, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think so. I've never even heard or read anything about that. But I'm going to keep it there just in case it's actually true information. Metal Shadow:  The Ultimate Robot  18:57, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Spoilers
Should we include that spoilers for the characters on their respective pages, or should we wait for an official confirmation? For example, should I list Sonic Generations under appearances for, say, Charmy, on his page, or should I leave it? Knuckleschaotix 15:50, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

No. I recommend not putting it there unless more information backing up their appearances in the game comes out. Because in later months, if alot more information about characters comes out, and none of those characters are mentioned, it would make this wikia look like a laughingstock. If someone does put it on a character's article, then I would just put hinted by it, meaning they could or could not appear in the game. Metal Shadow:  The Ultimate Robot  15:55, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

I think there shouldn't be 2 sections for bosses. I think we shouldn't put the bosses in the characters section. Espically since the final boss is in the characters section, and just put the bosses in the spoilers section. 3P START! 14:18, June 25, 2011 (UTC)3P START! 10:18, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Bosses
{{Shan|text=I don't think "Genesis" and the "Information Pod" are bosses. According to TSSZ, there will be "limited demoes of the classic 16-bit games," which is what I believe to be "Genesis". They also mentioned something about information on all Sonic games, and all things Sonic, I think this is the "Information Pod".

Shield Video! and Some Classic Modern Switching!
I found a video consisting of the shields from the Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles games for Sonic Generations!thumb|342px|right|The shield video!﻿ Should we put ti in the Generations article or the Green Hill (Sonic Generations) article? Lightning the Hedgehog:  The Electricity Master  14:15, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe, the shields don't look like they're fully animated mind.  Myself <font color="Black">123  14:22, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Who knows? Maybe that's what they'll look like in actual gameplay. Lightning the Hedgehog:  The Electricity Master  14:24, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

I doubt it.  Myself <font color="Black">123  14:27, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Other Characters
All the videos have said only Classic and Modern Sonic but I found this on the official Sonic Generations page on Sega.com.

<p style="margin-left: 40px">"Unlock New Adventures Once you complete each level and ‘free’ Sonic’s captured friends, you’ll get to go back and take on more challenges with them at your side."

This could be related to the circles with the character's names on them. The Master of War Games! Curiously Adventuring! TheWarGame 21:02, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Game engine
It should say that the Hedgehog Engine is for graphics, and Havok is for physics. You know, games aren't automatically limited to one engine, and you can't prove Havok will only be used in demos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcbZxeUbGys&NR=1 ???????? -- DiscoDuck The Original  09:21, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Why did you put that video there? What is the point of that?

PC and Wii U confirmed??? I think not
I do not think it will come for the PC because Sega gave up on it long ago. And it won't come for the Wii U. I've even checked their website with that game and it says Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and Nintendo 3DS. Thats it, i'm sorry to say. Can someone pleease delete the information about the PC, because it is false.

"It has also been repeatedly hinted for the Wii U"

Do you people even read the trivia? it says that Sega have expressed their distaste in porting it to the Wii U and decided it would come to the 3DS for the Nintendo people. They obviously don't want to release a game 6-8 months after the release of the game do they? Can someone delete this information, because the Wii U isn't even out, and they are making the game for 3 consoles, not 5. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic-  -A Proud Sonic Fan  11:36, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

The point that Sega gave up on the PC is an opinion, no offense. There are references that state it will (look closely to the article) including a preorder. The Wii U info has already been deleted so... yeah.

The Master of War Games! Curiously Adventuring! TheWarGame 19:16, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Well, if you want to see the truth SEGA has...

here

then you might be wrong. If you can't get to the link, look at Sega's website. SEGA stuff is official. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  22:35, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Sega's website didn't say Sonic Heroes was for PC but it is. The Master of War Games! Curiously Adventuring! TheWarGame 20:55, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Red Rings AND Gold Rings?
Since when? I've heard about the Red Rings, but not the Gold ones. But I hope it's gold and not red, because red rings + 360 = no. Knuckleschaotix 14:26, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but it's true. Look Sonicyay2 14:35, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for rubbing it in. -_-

But what about these gold rings?

Knuckleschaotix 14:38, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Dunno. Maybe add a referance? Sonicyay2 14:43, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, don't ask me. I have no idea where this came from. Knuckleschaotix 14:45, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

The red rings were in Sonic Colours, and in each version, they both had different purposes when collecting them all(even though it was hard)

Gold Rings, Super Sonics are golden

Coincidence?

Wait until the game. Until then, if there is any more information on the game, don't do anything(not, just keep adding info when you people find it)

Pinkolol16, I love Sonic-  -A Proud Sonic Fan  03:08, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Aren't the normal rings golden? 71.146.138.91 00:54, July 20, 2011 (UTC)MetaRyan

There needs to be a source for this. And if there is one, I think they mean the five red rings in the levels and the normal golden rings. Why would they have both and why haven't they been seen in any gameplay videos if there are also collectable gold rings? Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure this is a misinterpratation. The Master of War Games! Curiously Adventuring! TheWarGame 20:46, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Stardust Speedway
Okay, here's the dilemma:

Today, Chemical Plant was confirmed, and the boss of it was confirmed to be the Metal Sonic race. This hints at Stardust Speedway. My question: should I make a page Stardust Speedway (Sonic Generations), or should I just leave it? Keep in mind that all the other hinted/leaked levels like Rooftop Run (Sonic Generations) have pages.... Knuckleschaotix 14:25, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

No. All you're going on is the fact that Metal Sonic's been confirmed.  Myself  <font color="Black">123  17:20, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Well, TSSZ did mention that he would be ''Sonic CD's boss. ''That probably means Stardst Speedway. I'll be keping my eyes peeled....

Extra Stages
Chemical Plant Zone was revealed, and Metal Sonic was revealed to be the boss of it, but in the stage Stardust Speedway. Then I read on a couple of articles that there would be possible boss fights with enemies that you fought in different stages, like I read for Crisis City, Silver would probably be the boss fight in Soleanna. Could this mean more past stages from other Sonic games will apear in the game besides the ones listed? But as boss fighting stages? Lightning the Hedgehog:  The Electricity Master  18:15, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

Who knows, the game's not even out yet! We just don't know at this point. But I want to wonder why people delete stages even when they've got offical images(which is quite strange...) Pinkolol16, I love Sonic-  -A Proud Sonic Fan  02:49, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Probably because they're either trying to make it difficult for us to keep track of the information, or because they're mad because the stages they wanted are probably not gonna be in the game. Lloyd the Cat "I hog that hedgehate!"  02:52, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Tough Luck for them. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic-  -A Proud Sonic Fan  03:23, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Sonic Heroes is a Dreamcast era game, not a modern game.
Classic refers to the 5th generation of video games, Dreamcast refers to the 6th, and Modern the 7th. Sonic Heroes was made in the 6th generation, and would have been for the Dreamcast if the Dreamcast wasn't retired so early. There are 3 Classic, 3 Dreamcast, and 3 Modern major zones. 71.146.138.91 00:50, July 20, 2011 (UTC)MetaRyan

This is true...-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 01:01, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

No, Sonic Heroes wasn't on the Dreamcast, therefore it makes absolutly no sense what-so-ever to have it as a Dreamcast era game.  Myself <font color="Black">123  12:12, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

It makes perfect sense, actually.

It doesn't have to be Dreamcast to be Dreamcast era. An "era" is a field of time, similar to "age" (e.g. "Information Age", "Stone Age"). If it's 6th gen, I'm sure it's Dreamcast era. Gamecube was running at the same time, so it, too, was the Dreamcast Era (Nintendo fans would call it "Gamecube Era").-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 04:44, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Akamia after looking here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_games and researching Sonic Heroes. Apparantly it was originally going to be Sonic Adventure 3 and on the Dreamcast (as she/he said) and the Dreamcast and Gamecube were released and had their highest points at around the same time.

The Master of War Games! Curiously Adventuring! TheWarGame 03:26, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not the most reliable source on the Internet, but still, that was from the start anyway(SAdven3 rumour) Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  06:30, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

True, the Dreamcast/Gamecube/PS2/Xbox were all in the same generation, but that dosen't Sonic Heroes will be in the same era, it's ridiculous to have an era dubbed "Dreamcast" if all the games aren't Dreamcast games.  Myself <font color="Black">123  16:26, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

True, but better than "Gamecube Era". I'm pretty sure they would rather refer to a Sega system than a Nintendo system.

The Master of War Games! Curiously Adventuring! TheWarGame 18:05, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Please, none of that makes sense. This is all speculation by fans based on the fact there are 9 stages and you're all just trying to make it evened out.

Sonic Heroes is a sequel to SA2, but it meant to be SA3 originally is a rumor. Sonic 06 may have had similar gameplay for SONIC, but not for Shadow, Silver, or any other characters. In fact, Tails was mixed with SA1 and Heroes and Rouse was mixed with SA2 and Heroes. Shadow was similar to Shadow The Hedgehog plus more. Blaze was a 3D version of Rush and Silver and Amy were completely new. It was like mixing multiple of the past games together. Sonic's gameplay was based on the fact this was this basis for the gameplay since SA1 anyways, as was the Advance series (with the exception of being in 2D due to being handheld). This means this game was not really THAT worthy of being suspected to be possibly SA3. However, it did have similarities to Unleashed. The Match Speed is a prototype for Sonic Boost. Sonic Unleashed was originally going to be SA3, and that is NOT a rumor. But it was considered a different title due to being too different. In other words, it WAS going to be SA3 but ended up NOT being. They've even said that it is possible they'd consider making it still if fans showed they really wanted it, hence the recent preaching.

My point is that SA3 does not currently exist and so Heroes is not part of the Adventure series. It does not fall under the name "Adventure Era" nor "Dreamcast era". If it were part of the same era it wouldn't be called "Dreamcast Era". If that were the case they'd be able to call it part of the Modern Era for being 3D, or part of the Classic Era for being more like the Classics only in 3D and being classic 3D Sonic games, since the word's meaning could easily be applied to the Adventure series by now. Or, one could suggest that SA1 is Classic and SA2 is Modern due to which half of the 20 years they were in. SA2 came out on the 10th anniversary making it the second half.

BUT, SEGA says there's 3 eras and the middle era is titled "DreamCast" or "Adventure", isolating SA1 and SA2 together. Heroes is "Modern". If it were part of this in-between era then it wouldn't be called "DreamCast" or "Adventure" era. Otherwise "Classic" would be "Genesis Era" and Modern Era would have to choose between one of the 3 7th gen consoles. Heroes, Shadow and Riders were all also on Xbox and PS2, so would that make them part of the Adventure series era as well due to being on Gamecube? I mean, the Adventure series weren't on PS2 or Xbox. But Heroes WAS. All of them were on Gamecube tho, but SA1 and SA2 originated on DreamCast. And they titled the era "DreamCast". Sa2 was the last DC game so it WAS the end of the "DreamCast era". You can't say it's too small for only having 2 games when there's only 3 games on the Classic Era, considering Sonic 3 & Knuckles a full game, which it technically is. If the DreamCast Era wasn't just for DreamCast it wouldn't be called that. They'd call it "Middle Era" or "Mid Era" or something.

Just for the heck of it, notice the tone of the franchise, the character personalities and designs have also dramatically changed from the Adventure series to Heroes. Especially Knuckles and Shadow's faces being reshaped, yet maintaining that shape-design throughout the games since. Knuckles' model may have changed over time, but overall still looks like Knuckles from Sonic Heroes but not from SA1 or SA2. The Promotional Artwork is also CGI ever since Sonic Heroes. Tails 2 Tails are also maintaining a specific shape since Heroes. Just throwing this out there.

-FBA

Spoilers?
Are there any sources for the Spoilers section? And if there are, then why aren't they announced under the regular Characters and Level sections? Robbynascar28 Chuff Chuff! 12:01, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

I would just like to clear something up
The latest trailer everyone's been talking about isn't a Sonic Generations trailer, it is a trailer for Sonic's 20th anniversary, therefore it is wrong to assume that any levels featured in said trailer will appear in Sonic Generations. The trailer is completley irrelevant to this game.  Myself <font color="Black">123  17:59, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think people thought it was a Sonic Generations trailer because it had Generations in the video. I know it doesn't have anything todo with the game, but that is what I think made people think that. Lightning the Hedgehog:  The Electricity Master  18:01, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the levels in the trailer shown are the levels in Sonic Generations.--58SlugDrones! 06:38, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, it kinda reminds me of the Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 2 trailer called "A look Back". In the trailer it showed clips from the first Harry Potter film and said the title, then some more clips before showing the logo of the second film followed by clips from the second film. Then the logo of the third film and some clips from the third film and so on. After it showed clips of the 7th film it said something about the conclusion and showed clips from the final film. This is similar to that, though I don't think it's really a trailer for the game just a celebrating vid.

But the reason people might relate it to Sonic Generations is because out of all the games included in Generations and all the stages from those games that made the cut for Generations, each game showed up in the vid and each stage did as well. They all showed about 2 or 3 stages, but 1 out of 2 or 3 of those stages were always one of the chosen levels in Generations. Sometimes they were even them MOST shown stage. Sonic 1 mostly showed GHZ, Sonic 2 mostly showed Chemical Plant, Sonic & Knuckles mostly showed Sky Sanctuary, Sonic Adventure showed Speed Highway, Sonic Adventure 2 mostly showed City Escape, and THEN it showed Modern Sonic and started continuing the patter from Heroes onward. (This is also a sign on where "Modern Sonic" and the "Modern Era" are introduced into the history, seemingly considering the Adventure series and era as part of the Classic Sonic side merely remastered for 3D I guess.)

-FBA

Death Egg (Sonic 3?)
In the Boss List, it claims that the boss Death Egg is from Sonic 3.

Most of these bosses are obvious as to which game they are from as they are the only option. Some of them we know what game they're from but not sure which area if they're fought multiple times (Shadow SA2)

However, Death Egg is in both Sonic 2 and Sonic 3.

In Sonic 3, Death Egg is a stage with a boss at the end where you fight a floating circular enemy with his own mini spiked tankes by changed gravity up and down over and over. Then chasing Eggman, you fight him in the giant Eggman robot by hitting his fingers, then dodging his laser and nose-flames while hitting the Master Emerald in his chest. Then chasing Eggman himsefl. Then Doomsday Zone starts and you chase him, redirect his missiles to himself and then chase his other Eggman robot. Yeah, it's pretty cool as he is such a persistent villain you basically fight him 6 times in a row.

HOWEVER, this is probably considered 3 seperate bosses. Death Egg Zone Boos. Death Egg Zone Final Boss (aka Sonic & Knuckles - Sonic: Final Boss) and Doomsday Zone. Now it'd be cool if Doomsday Zone were in Generations, and if somehow it was included in "Death Egg" even without using the word "Doomsday".

But, Sonic 2's "Death Egg Zone" is ONLY a boss where you fight Silver Sonic and the giant Eggman robot. It is possible this is the boss in Generations as the new Sonic comic cover showing Sally also shows Metal Sonic jumping Sonic while Sonic attacks Silver Sonic who we haven't seen since Metal and Silver Sonic were near each other in tubes in Eggman's base. This same comic had a small image of Sonic Generations on the corner of the front page.

Most likely this is the boss in Generations. Now, that'd be cool but the other D.E.Z. would've been cooler. But that's how it goes, especially when there's not even the slightest evidence to support one of them. lol

-FBA

Why This Page Should be Locked To Where Only Admins Can Edit
For those who want to edit the Sonic Generations page, please read on. You know about the leaks that were extracted from the demo on Sonic's Birthday, right? And you guys really want to add all of those leaks to the page.

But you can not add the information anywhere you like. All spoiler information will be under the section I made called "Spoilers". All of the leaked information will be there and nowhere else. No leaked information will be on character articles as well. Just under the "Spoilers" section of Sonic Generations and that is it.

Spoilers need a spoiler warning because not everybody wants to know leaked information about a game because they like waiting for information about a game they would like to buy. If you add spoilers without a spoiler warning then you will "spoil" the patient gamers because they will accidently see it. We do not want to spoil our readers, do we? So from preventing this from happening, I made a section a long time ago with the name "Spoilers" so that all spoilers will be under that section so that whoever wants to look away can look away and whoever wants to read it, can read it.

What if someone would say, "Oh, I don't go to SNN because they have spoilers everywhere and I accidently read them." Would you like that? Really, please stop it now for whoever is doing this. Honestly, now I think alot of people who do not like spoilers must have read this information from our site because this has been going on since June 23rd. It's really embarrassing.

I already made a whole blog with a punishment for a block, but since nothing has changed since, I will go more strict by suggesting that this page will be locked to where only admins can edit.

Thank you. And your opinions please?--58SlugDrones! 05:50, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

If this problem (people constantly putting spoiler information outside the spoilers secion) continues to occur and people keep flat-out ignoring warnings, then I say go right ahead and lock the page. It'd probably be best if we do so anyway, since this is such a high-profile title. Lloyd the Cat "I hog that hedgehate!"  05:58, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Finally! But I'll wait for others.--58SlugDrones! 06:00, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. This page should be locked if the problem persists.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 08:53, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

No. I disagree. Some non-admins want to edit but can't because of it being protected for admins only. Just no. Please don't. I can't edit on this page longer. IceSeason101 11:53, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Unregistered contributors have been troublesome for me since the page was created. I always have to correct them whether they're spoilers or not.--58SlugDrones! 05:44, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Leaked info is not a spoiler. A spoiler is something that spoils your enjoyment of a game. In any case, the rule on the wiki is and has always been that it is not edited for spoilers. It says so on the front page. -- Supermorff 18:18, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Supermorff, these leaks do spoil the enjoyment of a game. All characters, levels, bosses, pictures, icons, plot, cutscene names, all missions, the final boss fight, the main story etc. were all revealed in one demo. Definitely, all information in the demo spoils the enjoyment of the game.--Administrator • (Contact) 05:04, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Well I'm not sure I agree (particularly about characters and levels, which would be in the game's manual anyway), but that doesn't change the fact that the wiki isn't edited for spoilers. If you don't want to be spoiled, why are you going on the page for this game anyway? -- Supermorff 06:43, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I've found a better Sonic Generations 3DS image!
I've found a better quality 3DS boxart of SG on a site I found. I'm not sure what you guys say on editing it on the page, but I found a better quality one!

What I mean about poor quality is the boxart we've got now. Modern Sonic is not his normal blue, and the backround and himself look way too bright! Classic Sonic looks fine, but Modern looks too bright for himself. If you think this pic I found should be put on, then see it here.

If you think the image is good, then say for yourself here. I'm asking if I can put this image on because it's better quality then the one we have now.

Tell me. Should I?

Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  14:37, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Since no one has bothered to click the link, i'll put the pic up anyway!

The reason I'm not putting this on a blog post, is because of the fact that it is boxart and I really want to put it on the page. But what about the public, well, have your say on this section. I'll need 3 yes' before I put it on(or if anyone can even put it in that box. I can't!) Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...   I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  14:54, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Are you sure someone just didn't edit it?--58SlugDrones! 15:02, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Nope. Pic came up as I was looking at it. Not edited at all. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  15:04, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

What I mean is, I was surfing the site it came from normally, but when I saw it, I KNEW it was better than this one. Modern Sonic looks way too bright.

If there is anyone who can put pictures inside that infobox, in replacement and explain why the other one was bad, then please put this picture in. The pictures is good. I've seen it in it's full size.

It was the first boxart for the game, and the only one, according to the site.

Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  22:29, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Um, hello? Anyone going to put the image on the page?

Well, correction, an admin >:( Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...   I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  12:49, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see much of a difference, no offense or anything. The current one is from an official source anyway.

The Master of War Games! Curiously Adventuring! TheWarGame 03:09, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

But the current one has bad quality, don't you look at Modern Sonic? His blue is WAY too bright to be him. The picture I found has the perfect blue for Modern Sonic, and Classic Sonic too! The boxart looks way too bright as it is now. Modern Sonic's blue is so bright his eyes are practically glowing! And that's not what we want to see. My one has perfect quality and it's better too! My one had got better blue's than the one found by someone else. The picture I think is PERFECT FOR THE GAME!!!! You compare the two and I guarantee you my one will be of better quality.

And if the boxart does turn out to be what I've put there, then all of you will be wrong. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  09:57, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Come on
Of course they had to lock the page for admins only. We are or was the number one gaming wiki on wikia! But now, we won't be because of the page being locked. I mean, what if a non admin found true info on Sonic Generations? They can't add it because it's locked. Who's with me? IceSeason101 11:34, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I am with you. Seriously, I found boxart and I can't put it on because of this! TRUE BOXART!(3ds, i got a better one, and i can't put it on.

Really, that's my they invented an undo button and warnings were invented.

I've tried to tell people I've found official artwork, and they won't believe me.(i mean come on, modern sonic in the pciture in the page doesn't even look like him. Light blue? that's not ModSonic colour)

I'm going with IceSeason. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  12:40, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

And continuing, let's say(i'm using this as an example) found more plot. They wouldn't be able to edit it because of the admin only editing it thing.

Do we want to REPEL people from the wiki? Or ATTRACT them?

I found Boxart, and now, I can't put it on.

I think What IceSeason and I havec said is enough. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  12:46, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I just said one thing. IceSeason101 20:59, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

What is this "plot" thing you found?--58SlugDrones! 10:03, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

@58

I was using that as an example. I'm saying if they did find more, just if, they wouldn't be able to because of the lock. Same with my official artwork. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  10:14, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I see. As for Sonic's fur color, well we are only going to use the images SEGA has given to us. An adjusted color by a fan is not needed. And I do not mean to boast but I am one-step ahead of you guys in the plot (not all of you but) but I did not add the information because whatever I know is not confirmed, vague but most likely official but a few things are a bit puzzling right now.--58SlugDrones! 10:20, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think it was done by a fan. Look at Sega's website. The picture is exactly from there.

Here is the link in case you don't believe me.

Now you believe me? Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  10:32, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Am I supposed to be looking at the two Sonics at the bottom?--58SlugDrones! 10:39, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

No, you are supposed to be looking at the boxart on the page. To the right I think. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  10:46, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

The image SEGA provided for a large image download is the one on the page (alot more dull).--58SlugDrones! 10:49, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Well, because I live in a different country, it comes up different, like the one I found. The image I found came from a site which sourced it to Sega Australia's site(i think) and I can tell, because I have looked at it and it does have the one I found.

AND, if it does turn out(the actual game) to be like that, you'll all be wrong.

And the link I gave you, it probably directed you to your country's Sega website, which has the wrong boxart. What I found is on Sega's Aussie site and it's official.

Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  10:55, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I can see it, you're right but do you have a large image? And I do not live in any country SEGA has provided so far.--58SlugDrones! 11:01, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Yes. The image came full size. The link to the LARGE image is that one to the gaming site I gave you above.

I'll give it anyway. Here you go. That is the link to a LARGER(I like doing that, it professes BIG) image of the same thing

There is the image for your understanding. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  11:11, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

There, I will unlock the page for you so that only you can add the boxart. When you're done, I'll have to lock it again, sorry.--58SlugDrones! 11:25, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Only problem, I can only add it to the gallery because I don't know how to do that to the info box sorry...

I'll add it to the gallery. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  11:29, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Unlocked, you may now edit.--58SlugDrones! 11:31, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting Pinklol doing that. I also think that will be fair. Gotta go fast! "Sonic Boom!!"

No problem. But do not expect me to do this again.--58SlugDrones! 11:42, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Why is she taking so long? I am beginning to distrust her.--58SlugDrones! 11:45, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

No need to distrust me 58, computer is taking a long time to download image. I'm not making havoc. Absolute no need to distrust me. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  11:49, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I apologize. I have uploaded it for you. Just add it to the gallery.--58SlugDrones! 11:56, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I have just done so, 58. Weird thing is, when it's night(and it is here) the computer goes really slow. Thank you for helping me prove I found a picture from an official source.

See you round.

Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan  12:05, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

It's no big deal.--58SlugDrones! 12:07, August 12, 2011 (UTC)