Forum:Sonic Tournament Characters

Here we Go! I've taken the liberty of creating this chart, so we can keep track of who we decide will be in the tournament. I went ahead and filled in a handful of the really main characters just because I assume there will be no argument against them. However, let's not put more characters in until we've agreed on them. Sonictoast 23:25, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Update: I've added in all 42 playable characters and those who have gotten 3/4 votes so far.

Update: Alright folks, it is time to finish the list. Aweful shame that Blazerocks hasn't shown up this whole time. The characters who have received 2/3 votes will move up into the roster. If there are open spaces in certain categories, I will be assigning the characters in that category a number, then be using a random number generator which will pick which character gets to be moved up into the roster. Since there have been no objections to the 7 sega all-stars they too will be added. At the bottom of this page, we will start the "Wild Card" Nominations, so if you have a character who you think should be the wild card, be sure to nominate them. Sonictoast 04:21, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Alright Sonictoast, Murph, Super Guy 100 please check in before we choose the charactersBlazeRocks55 18:16, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Super Guy 100 reporting for duty!

Is sonictoast online then we can choose charactersBlazeRocks55 18:19, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

IDK. Super Guy 100 =)

Then we'll pick without himBlazeRocks55 18:23, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

M' kay. Super Guy 100 =)

Sonic and Sega bothBlazeRocks55 18:27, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

agree. Super Guy 100 =)

Hold everything let's choose the characters before we find out who plays whoBlazeRocks55 18:31, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Mighty v Fang/Nack? Super Guy 100 =) Let's do all the Sonic Heroes charactersBlazeRocks55 18:35, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Are you nuts? We can't fit that much characters on the roster! But, ok. Have it your way. Super Guy 100 =)

Dude we need 128 charactersBlazeRocks55 20:06, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

I forget who they are?BlazeRocks55 18:37, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

OK we'll have to do this around 4:00 Eastern my computers having issuesBlazeRocks55 18:39, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

What state do you live in?BlazeRocks55 20:06, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Murph, Super Guy. answer this question when you get back and I'll give you a new scheduleBlazeRocks55 20:17, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Gang, Sorry i missed earlier I was not aware we were meeting at that time. Anyway, Here is what I propose.


 * All 42 playable characters (Counting Flicky, not counting SatBK counterparts or super forms).
 * 20 more Game Characters
 * 10 Archie characters
 * 10 STC Characters
 * 10 SatAM characters
 * 9 Underground Characters
 * 10 Sonic X Characters
 * 10 aosth Characters
 * 7 Sega All-stars

Sonictoast 20:34, June 9, 2010 (UTC) To make it easy on you guys, the 42 playable characters in the series are (in no particular order):
 * 1) Sonic
 * 2) Tails
 * 3) Robotnik/Eggman
 * 4) Knuckles
 * Amy
 * 1) Metal Sonic
 * 2) Flicky
 * 3) Nack/Fang
 * 4) Cream
 * 5) Emerl
 * Big
 * 1) Shadow
 * 2) Rouge
 * 3) Omega
 * 4) Gamma
 * 5) Bark
 * 6) Bean
 * 7) Tails Doll
 * 8) EggRobo
 * 9) Chao (Playable in Sonic Shuffle and SA2/SA2Battle as ChaoWalker)
 * 10) Dark Chao (playable as Dark ChaoWalker in SA2Battle)
 * 11) Metal Knuckles
 * 12) Blaze
 * 13) Silver
 * Ray
 * 1) Heavy
 * 2) Bomb
 * 3) Mighty
 * 4) Espio
 * 5) Charmy
 * 6) Vector
 * Jet
 * 1) Storm
 * 2) Wave
 * 3) E-1000G
 * 4) E-1000R
 * 5) SCR-GP
 * 6) SCR-HD
 * 7) Black Knight
 * 8) Tikal
 * 9) Chaos
 * 10) Shade.

Dude, why Sonic the Comic? I never it before. How about some Mario characters? Super Guy 100 =)

I've never read Sonic the Comic either, but we should make this tournament apply to all Sonic Fans, even the UK ones. Maybe we can cut the StC characters down to like 5 or 6.

I was under the impression that Mario characters would not be a part of this. I suppose that is something we can discuss here. Sonictoast 20:39, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Spaghetti and Meat Balls
Let's get this moving already. Sonictoast 15:05, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, since not one else is doing anything, I'm taking action.

I'm going to but boxes of characters from different sonic categories. I you want that character in the tournament, put "yes" next to them under your column. If you don't, put "no". Everyone get's 10 "yes" answers. In the event of a tie, it will go in favor of the character, unless there is more than has been designated for that category, if still too many, whichever comes first in the alphabet gets the spot.

Update: I've gone through and bolded those who have 3 votes so far, that means they will for sure be in the tournament.Sonictoast 23:33, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Update We are making good progress. Once all these characters are chosen, there will still be one spot left for a wild card, a character that we all agree should be in the tournament, but for some reason was left out of the voting or something. Let's have all votes in by midnight tonight eastern time: (11 Central, 10 Mountain, 9 Pacific, 5 UTC). Then tomorrow we will decide our wild card and be done with the list finally.

Update Now that all the votes are in, we have a lot of ties. I can simply use the random number generator to pick which characters get the spots or we can vote on them. I would rather use the generator and finally be done picking characters and get on to the tournament. Does anyone else have a preference?Sonictoast 15:43, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Here are the 24 characters who all tied in their categories. How it would work is I assign them all a number, 1-24 and the first 11 to be chosen by the random generator get to be in the tournament. Or we can just vote on them, 11 'yes' votes each. Sonictoast 15:58, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I punched them into the random number generator. I will underline the ones that came up. If your cool with those picks, say so. If not, say something. Sonictoast 18:58, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Update I tallied up all the characters and all the ones that were split 2 yes and 2 no I added into the random generator and Froggy was the one who missed out on the tournament which means Tekno, Vanilla, Caterkiller, Crabmeat, and Gemerl are saved. BlazeRocks55 23:13, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

final vote (11) Sonic X (10)
 * sonictoast - ST
 * Murphyshane - MS
 * Super Guy 100 - SG
 * BlazeRocks55 - BR

Adventures of StH (10)

SatAM (10)

Archie comics (10)

Sonic Underground (8)-you get 8 "yes" votes

Non-playable Game characters (20) you get 20 "yes" votes

Sonic the Comic (6)-you get 6 "yes" votes -If you don't know who someone is, click on their link and read about them. -I don't know much about StC, if you do know about it and know an important character I missed, please add them.

Other (4)-you get 4 "yes" votes

-These are characters from the movie, Night of the werehog and scrapped game characters.

In Addition, we have 7 SEGA All-Stars on board:


 * Aiai
 * Amigo
 * Alex Kidd
 * Beat
 * Billy Hatcher
 * NiGHTS
 * Ulala

If there is any objections to these seven voice your opinions now. Sonictoast 16:38, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Wild Card Nominations
Wild Card

Choose 1 except yours you nominated

I Nominate Orbinaut.

Why: 1. He is one of the most reoccurring badniks. 2. He has been around since 1991.

Sorry I haven't been here I've been terribly sick I say the wild card let's let everyone decide but I'd go with Banjo mix in a non Mario, SEGA OR Sonic characterBlazeRocks55 17:23, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

For real, I nominate Ella.

Why? 1. She's funny, fat, farty, Eggman loves her and she is a terribly racist stereotype of a Hispanic house maid.Sonictoast 22:09, June 17, 2010 (UTC)



Anyone else gonna nominate someone? Murph? Superguy? I'm only allowed to vote for Banjo right now, and though Banjo is a good choice, I'd rather have a variety of candidates to choose from.Sonictoast 06:37, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah guys (I already let Murph know he can nominate someone)BlazeRocks55 11:24, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

At this rate we can nominate 2 characters I sayBlazeRocks55 11:31, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

I nominate Banjo. No Specific Reasons. Super Guy 100 =)
 * Banjo is already nominated. You vote for him. I'm voting for Banjo too in hopes that we can move on. Sonictoast 14:25, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

I'm tired of waiting around. Looks like Banjo Wins! Roster finally complete!Sonictoast 04:31, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Why doesn't anybody like Ella?Sonictoast 16:37, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Becuase Ella Chris Danny ect ect ruined Sonic X the new humans ruined Sonic XBlazeRocks55 19:44, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Youtube
If anyone has a YouTube account we could post something on Youtube to get everyone's attention about thisBlazeRocks55 23:29, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Well done Blazerocks55. That is an excellent idea. I have a very prominent youtube account with over 6000 subscribers and yes a majority of them are Sonic fans. Once we have the dates set for the tournament I'll put up a video advertising it.

We also gotta get some other things moving. We gotta set the match ups. I was thinking the number generator could be used for that. We should see if we can get a link to the tournament put up on the SNN homepage. It would be great if we could get something about it on the Sonic Stadium, that would bring in a lot of voters. We should make banners for it that will link to the tournament. We need to set dates, we need to figure out how many matches we will have each day. We also need to make the bracket. We are all going to need to be very active if we are going to do this right. No 1 of us can do it alone, we'll have to work together. It would be good if we can also recruit more users, so there won't be so much lying on the shoulders of the four of us.Sonictoast 06:34, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

We don't even know about the wild card yet?!BlazeRocks55 11:27, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

How about SSM or 58 to help or Admiral he would do great making banners and stuff?BlazeRocks55 11:25, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, Admiral's banners seem so robotic. This should be appealing. Sonictoast 15:05, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

I think i already subscribed to you, toast. Look for Homsar386 (don't ask about why i have that username; i like homestar runner.) Multiverseman 15:13, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Responsibilities
We should start figuring out who does what. Does anybody know how to make a tournament bracket on wikia? Sonictoast 07:28, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yep it might me done in about two days maybe but we need to find out who plays whoBlazeRocks55 11:21, June 19, 2010 (UTC) Uhhh, what? Super Guy 100 =)

Alright, i think we should use the random number generator to decide who plays who. They can have their numbers in the box at the top. Sound good? Sonictoast 16:40, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

I say to the one across the ends of there line like this Sonic v. Omochao Emerl v. Julie-Su Dark Chao v. Molly Dark Oak v. Shahra

because what would happen if it was Sonic v. Tails Knuckles v. Amy some of the more popular ones could be eliminated in the first round get it?BlazeRocks55 19:40, June 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Use a seeding system. Put the top 8 or so from the table into different brackets and assign all the others randomly. Also, for random number generators, I recommend RANDOM.ORG. -- Supermorff 19:52, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * We've been using random.org and thanks for the help we'll think about the ideaBlazeRocks55 21:24, June 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Blazerocks, I like your idea, but I would rather use the random generator. Simply because by your system the SatAM characters are matched up with other SatAm characters (Antoine vs Snively, Sally vs rotor). most all the Sonic X characters are against the Sonic Underground characters. It seems a bit boring if there are ten Sonic X characters vs 10 Sonic Underground characters. I'd like it to be a little more mixed up, that's why I would prefer we use the random number generator, but also using Morff's idea of assigning the first 8 characters to seperate brackets. Sonictoast 04:30, June 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, I totally didn't see that link you had to random.org. Great minds think alike I guess. Anyway, in case anyone will find it useful, I've drawn up a proforma tournament diagram at Template:Tournament. It doesn't have any names in yet, but it's a full 128 size. Feel free to change or edit as you like, and ask me if you want help. -- Supermorff 19:15, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, Morff, that looks excellent. Can you put Pictures in that or only text? Either way I love it, seems perfect for this. Sonictoast 00:09, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

So I don't have to do the tournament bracket?BlazeRocks55 11:34, June 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Morff made a really nice template. You could copy paste it into the tournament page and put all the names in. Sonictoast 16:26, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * All rightBlazeRocks55 17:33, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * All right you use the random generator tell me the matchups and I'll get to workBlazeRocks55 17:34, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

sounds good. Sonictoast 18:04, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Look! You can even put pictures in! This is awesome! Though I don't know why they have those { – }} around them. Sonictoast 16:43, June 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * The text and formatting goes at the end of each line. I've fixed it. -- Supermorff 18:25, June 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * I know I'm not part of the group, but I vote yes for the Tails Doll to move up! Multiverseman 19:25, June 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * When the actual tournament begins, you can vote for Tails Doll.Sonictoast 16:26, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Match ups
These are chosen by a random number generator except for the top 8 characters who are purposely equally spread out from each other. Also, I switched spots between Shade and Silver because I assume Silver is a more popular character.


 * 1) Amy Rose vs Black Knight
 * 2) Emerl vs Antoine D'Coolette
 * 3) Snively Robotnik vs Momma Robotnik
 * 4) Cream vs Johnny Lightfoot
 * 5) Athair the Echidna vs Mephiles the Dark
 * 6) Manic the Hedgehog vs Erazor Djinn
 * 7) Caterkiller vs Hero Chao
 * 8) Topaz vs Tekno the Canary
 * 9) Knuckles vs Void
 * 10) Crabmeat vs EggRobo
 * 11) Metal Sonic 3.0 vs Sonia the Hedgehog
 * 12) Mammoth Mogul vs Blaze
 * 13) Bokkun vs E-100 Alpha (Zero)
 * 14) Chris Thorndyke vs Ray the Flying Squirrel
 * 15) E-10000R vs Monkey Khan
 * 16) Tails Doll vs Bartleby
 * 17) Dr. Robotnik vs Katella
 * 18) Doctor Finitevus vs Ulala
 * 19) Pir'Oth Ix vs Wes Weasely
 * 20) Aiai vs Chao
 * 21) Rob O' the Hedge vs Bark the Polarbear
 * 22) Eggman Nega vs SWATbots
 * 23) Tikal the Echidna vs Marine the Raccoon
 * 24) Chomps vs Coconuts
 * 25) Shadow the Hedgehog vs Cluck
 * 26) Beat vs Chuck Thorndyke
 * 27) Espio the Chameleon vs Oracle of Delphius
 * 28) Dark Chao vs Bomb
 * 29) Chaos vs Molly
 * 30) SCR-GP vs Uncle Chuck
 * 31) Old Man Owl vs E-102 Gamma
 * 32) Fiona Fox vs Big the Cat
 * 33) Sonic the Hedgehog vs Cheese the Chao (poor Cheese)
 * 34) E-123 Omega vs Mighty the Armadillo
 * 35) King Boom Boo vs Storm the Albatross
 * 36) Vector the Crocodile vs Jet the Hawk
 * 37) Ebony the Cat vs Grounder
 * 38) Rouge the Bat vs Rotor Walrus
 * 39) Robotnik Jr. vs Chip
 * 40) Scourge the Hedgehog vs Amigo
 * 41) Metal Sonic vs Billy Hatcher
 * 42) G.U.N. Commander vs Shahra the Ring Genie
 * 43) Cosmo the Seedrian vs Scratch
 * 44) SCR-HD vs Shade the Echidna
 * 45) Maria Robotnik vs Bean the Dynamite
 * 46) Zonic the Zone Cop vs Gemerl
 * 47) Vanilla the Rabbit vs Mecha Sonic
 * 48) Wave the Swallow vs Porker Lewis
 * 49) Miles "Tails" Prower vs Shortfuse the Cybernik
 * 50) Merlina the Sorceress vs Metal Knuckles
 * 51) Alex Kidd vs Omochao
 * 52) Enerjak vs Doctor Zachary
 * 53) Dark Oak vs Wallace A. Ditso
 * 54) Heavy vs NiGHTS
 * 55) Mr. Tanaka vs Charmy Bee
 * 56) Ixis Naugus vs Decoe
 * 57) Silver the Hedgehog vs Sara
 * 58) Bocoe vs Muttski
 * 59) Bert Whoo vs Flicky
 * 60) Black Doom vs NICOLE
 * 61) Banjo-Kazooie vs Sally Acorn
 * 62) Fang the Sniper vs Julie-Su
 * 63) Tiara Boobowski vs Bunnie Rabbot-D'Coolette
 * 64) Professor Von Schlemmer vs E-10000G

I think the top eight characters should be randomly ordered, but only amongst themselves. The way it is now, we've guaranteed that Sonic cannot fight Tails in the final (for example), because their battle (if they got that far) would be in round 4. Sonic can stay in number one place though, that's fine. -- Supermorff 20:04, June 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Excellent point. I went ahead and randomized those with Random.org and am now proceeding in the match ups. Sonictoast 21:46, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

few, finally finished, that took a lot longer than I thought it would. Sonictoast 22:54, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

OK the tournament won't save somebody else do it pleaseBlazeRocks55 13:26, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

OK I fixed it but there's one problem the final matchup well see for yourself Template:Tournament I don't know how to do pictures so if someone else could do that BlazeRocks55 18:20, June 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * yipe, That's only the template, you were supposed to copy paste it somewhere else. no worries, I'll see if I can fix it.Sonictoast 18:34, June 22, 2010 (UTC)                                                                                                                                                                                                              34 made me laugh. Mighty vs Omega? HA! IT'S NO COMPARISON! MIGHTY WINS! Super Guy 100 =)

ATTENTION! No more editing on the template. go here Forum:Sonic Tournament bracket. Sonictoast 18:47, June 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I got edit conflicted and confused. I'm fixing it now. -- Supermorff 19:12, June 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * holy Toast, no Morff, yours was perfect, I just now saw your edits and they were perfect, i was just getting annoyed because everyone was making it look so weird, that's why I made a forum, so to keep the original intact, but with what you did with putting the characters in looks perfect. We should keep what you did and I should delete the forum.  Sonictoast 19:31, June 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Morff, If it is okay with you, I think you should be in charge of the bracket. You obviously know what you are doing, and no one else, should be allowed to touch it without your consent.  What say you?Sonictoast 19:34, June 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Don't delete the forum, but yeah I guess I could be in charge if you want. -- Supermorff 19:39, June 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Indeed, I think that would be best, rather than having 4 people editing it left and right. Sonictoast 19:50, June 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Dangit. The tournament bracket is too large to transclude like a normal template. Guess we will have to just copy and paste after all. -- Supermorff 19:55, June 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sonictoast, I'm done editing Template:Tournament for a while. If you like, why don't you go through adding all the pictures you like? -- Supermorff 20:02, June 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * I was just going to ask you if I could do exactly that. Thanks.  Sonictoast 21:31, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Hooray!!! I finally finished putting all 128 pictures in. They are all background-less, mostly all full body shots (except a few characters that I couldn't find full body shots of to save my life). Take a look, Template:Tournament, I think you'll all like it. Sonictoast 05:42, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Fun stats about our 128 characters:
 * we have 50 Bad guys
 * we have 30 Robots
 * we have 28 females
 * we have 19 humans (20 if you count NiGHTS, is NiGHTS human?)
 * we have 15 Hedgehogs
 * we have 11 Birds
 * we have 10 Echidnas
 * we have 5 Chao

Sonictoast 06:19, June 24, 2010 (UTC)