Sonic News Network:Requests for User Rights/Pinkolol16 (Rollback Demotion)

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I nominate Pinkolol16 for demotion from her Rollback status. The way Pinkolol16 has been acting is not the way a rollback should act. Just recently, two users (Me and Fly the Fox) were talking about an idea (in a joking way) on chat. We were not talking about her or to her in any fashion until she addressed us. She then raged, and then edited her userpage, calling me and Fly "FREAKING IDIOTS". As seen here. She did it not once, but twice. See the edit before that. There was no need to act this way, and this is not how a Rollback should act. They should be role models to users, and not... this. She also came on chat the next day, and continued to try to provide reasons, saying her getting "angry" about us talking about a subject is reason for her to do such things. This is unacceptable. This is also not the first time Pinkolol16 has done this. She has raged on and off the wiki more than once. I've been told she's raged before simply because someone was changing their avatar a few times, and I've witnessed her rage like this on the wiki. Things like this not only break SNN policy, but are a disgrace to the wiki. This is not at all how a rollback should act, let alone a user. --{{BFSig}} 02:50, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) As the poster. -- 02:50, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) Sorry Pink, but this is not how a rollback should act. I support. We all  have our own   styles we   won't change  02:56, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) Well it was immature. I was also offended. I don't know if i'm willing to forgive, let alone forget.---[[File:Hyper_Sonic_Modern.gif]] Fly the Fox ,Rainbow Dash  02:57, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) Since Bullet informed me on a few more behaviors of hers that relate to what's already been addressed so far in both the main demotion body and the discussion section, and since I have no reason to believe that he'd lie to me about it, I believe that I now have enough information to make a clear vote. I choose to support her demotion. I'm sorry Pink, but showing such levels of immaturity over people trying to talk about things that don't even involve you most of the time and acting rude towards those who ask you honest questions is simply not acceptable in my eyes. Regardless of other peoples' interests you need to be respectful towards others. Lloyd the Cat  "I hog that hedgehate!"  03:44, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * 5) Now that I am aware of a recurrent pattern of such behavior, the decision no longer seems as knee-jerk to me. Without naming names, we've had users such as this on both Wookieepedia and Star Wars Fanon, who were demoted due to either abusive behavior or simply abusing their rights and responsibilities (such as threatening to give good-faith editors "cool-down blocks" for no real reason). There are certain users that we simply will not allow to have rollback, mainly due to their behavior. With great power comes great responsibility, an axiom we should all be familiar with as it applies to our lives in many ways. Rollback is a power and with it is the responsibility to present oneself as an upstanding and model user. Sysop is another great power, and with it comes the responsibility of representing oneself and the userbase, as a position of power reflects on the whole community. If a rollback user is acting in conduct unbecoming to any user, then that reflects poorly on them and the veteran users. If a sysop acts with conduct unbecoming of a user in their position, that reflects poorly on the entire site. I admit that on Wookieepedia, we have come to be known by our strict admins.
 * 6) *Nothing against Pink, but a continued pattern of vindictive behavior is not something that I would like to see coming from a person in even a minor position of authority. Granted, I call refer to rollback rights as "candy," but even then... One usually doesn't give candy to a person who is calling them an "idiot."  Trak Nar  Ramble on 04:06, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * 7) Sorry Pink but I know were friends, but that doesn't inflict on my decisision. Iam going to have to support Per my Life Motto and you can't get Raged that much. Sorry Pink but Iam supporting. Willaca (talk)  06:54, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * 8) I must support. Not liking something is one thing, but this is a whole other thing. It reflects badly on our community.-- 06:57, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * 9) Sorry but I support this, like what Gen said you have to respect other people's interests and opinions.
 * 10) Basically what everyone else has said can be summed up in these few words. Pink, you are a great user here, and I have plenty of respect for you, however, this behavior is simply unacceptable. If you cannot find ways to express your dislike of a subject, then I suggest you simply walk away from the computer for a bit to calm down, expressing your emotions here has caused a conflict between you and other users. 09:15, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * 11) After reading that description and looking at the proof behind it, my mind is made up. Qualities of a Rollback include understanding, maturity and respect. Pinklol16 did not show understanding by getting angry at the joke. She did not show maturity by "I'm never going on chat again" and did not show respect by calling Fly and Bullet "stupid freaking idiots". My mind is made up. Demotion. -- Murphyshane -  熱! Don't click here   21:28, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * 12) I support now, thanks to Pink's YT channel comments. Pacmansonic138 21:47, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * 13) Although I am viewed as a huge d**k on this site, I will admit I don't think I've ever actually publicly (to everyone) said specific users were "FREAKING IDIOTS". I don't think there are any good reason why I should oppose demotion here. --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher. ( Talk )( Recent finds and updates. ) 21:56, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * 14) Per all [[File:Stephen coop-1-.gif]] ★Cant stop me  from rockin out★ [[File:Scott coop-1-.gif]] 22:58, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * 15) I've seen her rages over people who change their avatar, and combined with the imature actions she has made according to this blog, I indeed think she should be demoted.
 * 16) Unacceptable behavior cannot be taken lightly, especially when one is trusted with a user right. All of that trust just slips away, but it can be gained back over time and maturity. 00:34, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * 17) Per all of the above [[File:AnimatedBlaze.gif]] Blaze the Cat is awesome!!!  Fear the power of the flames!! [[File:AnimatedBlaze.gif]] 00:47, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * 18) Don't really go on chat, but I've seen some immature (and in my opinion, rather funny) messages on her Youtube page, that clearly shows she's not mature enough for this. If it was me, I'd rather plead my case, I think we could do with less people like that.  Myself  123  00:55, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * 19) Per DF, i'm sorry. I can feel  the pain  01:18, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

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Discussion

 * While I do agree that such behavior is very unbecoming, I feel I need to remain neutral. I am not aware if you have an NPA policy here, but on Wookieepedia, we have such a policy. We usually start off with a warning, and in this case, I feel that may be warranted prior to a demotion. Figure out the problem and resolve it in a civil manner. Users on Wookieepedia, even ones with rollback, have engaged in personal attacks, and they still retain their rollback rights. However, when they do violate the policy, they are warned about it and the matter resolved. We do recognize the fact that people lose their cool. It happens. many of us have difficulty maintaining a clear head in certain situations, and with practice, can we get better at it. But, a knee-jerk reaction to demote someone based on two incidences of NPA violation is a bit much.
 * I think what needs to be taken into account prior to the decision to move forward is Pink's overall history. Has she done this before? Is there a repeat pattern of NPA violation? Or, is this an isolated incident? If it is the latter, a warning and discussion may be warranted more than a straight-up demotion.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 03:18, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * She has been warned as far as I am concerned. I told her awhile back on chat to stop getting so mad over ponies. I'm not sure how much of a warning that is, but this is constant. She's insulted users and raged multiple times over opinions. She gets mad when someone simply mentions ponies. -- 03:26, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * @Bullet Not when somebody mentions ponies, but when somebody combines ponies with something she like or get her to like them. Pacmansonic138 03:34, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah yeah, that's what I meant. However, this is constant, and it isn't just two recent offenses, I'd say much more than that. This happens constantly, almost every night when I'm on chat. She often gets angry at this, and it gets annoying, fast. A rollback should accept and respect opinions, not rage at them when someone isn't even talking to her. -- 03:35, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd like to point out that I have nothing against Pink. I think she's great as a person, I just don't appreciate her actions. -- 06:48, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Guys, something important. Read Pink's YouTube channel comments see here. -- 21:14, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * She pretty much said rude things about the wiki and us. [[File:AnimatedBlaze.gif]] Blaze the Cat is awesome!!!  Fear the power of the flames!! [[File:AnimatedBlaze.gif]] 21:19, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * If you read some comments she made on her | own YouTube channel. She happend to call SNN a "Troll-fest". Willaca (talk)  23:19, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * And she called you a liar, Will. [[File:AnimatedBlaze.gif]] Blaze the Cat is awesome!!!  Fear the power of the flames!! [[File:AnimatedBlaze.gif]] 00:45, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes. Which hurt when I saw it. But it's probably the mood she's currently in. Willaca (talk)  00:48, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Now I'm curious... Do you guys have an NPA policy on here? I see simply "No personal attacks" listed on the policy page as part of the rules, but do you guys have an official policy on NPA? If not, might I suggest that one be put together? This way, when stuff like this happens again, there will be a proper protocol to follow when dealing with it; ranging from warnings to blocks, whatever the policy calls for. It will also help detail what exactly a personal attack is, as innocent things can be misconstrued as such. Also, it will (hopefully) prevent personal attacks within edit summaries, on userpages (either direct or indirect), and perhaps extend the policy to include the chat.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 06:19, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * If you want one, you can make a forum about it. We all  have our own   styles we   won't change  16:36, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * There's already a site discussion going on about said NPA policy. I recommend you check it out. 16:40, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * I see now. We all  have our own   styles we   won't change  01:23, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Conclusion
Yes - Community consensus is unanimous in supporting this demotion. I'm sorry Pink, but your Rollback privileges will be revoked. This nomination will be removed shortly. Lloyd the Cat "I don't die. I just go on adventures."  19:20, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

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