Sonic News Network:Requests for User Rights

Requests for adminship (RfA) is the process by which this wiki's community decides who will become administrators (also known as admins or sysops), who are users with access to additional features, most notably the ability to delete pages and to block users. A user either submits his/her own request for adminship (a self-nomination) or is nominated by another user. Please become familiar with the Administrators' how-to guide before submitting your request. This process is modeled around Wikipedia's RfA process, and more information can be found at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship.

Nominating
To submit a nomination for somebody else, please create a section below the "Current nominations for adminship" line listing the nominee's username as a piped link to his/her userpage. Below that, please include a statement about why you are nominating this person and why you think they will be a good admin. The nominee should then accept (or reject) the nomination, and include a statement about why (s)he wants to become an admin, why (s)he thinks (s)he is a good candidate, and what (s)he plans to do with administrator rights. All users must sign and date their statements.

To submit a self-nomination, please create a section below the "Current nominations for adminship" line listing your username as a piped link to your userpage. Below that, please include a statement about why you want to become an admin, why you think you are a good candidate, and what you plan to do with administrator rights. Please sign and date your statement.

Editorial Note: Adminship is NOT taken lightly. You may actually want to spend some time on your request. A couple sentences is hardly sufficient to show that you won't cause more problems than you solve with admin tools, let alone that you think that there is a good reason why more admins are necessary and that you would be a good candidate for a new admin, that you're willing to put time and effort into this wiki, and that you know how to use admin powers properly and would do so.

Discussion
Once a nomination has been made, users will review the nominee and declare their support or opposition by commenting. Such posts should be bulleted (with asterisks *) and preceded by Yes, No or Neutral. When declaring support or opposition in this way, please refrain from using a talk bubble, even if you frequently use one on talk pages. This is to help bureaucrats to easily determine who is for and who is against the nomination.

In this section, users may also make comments (to be preceded by Comment) or ask the nominee questions (to be preceded by Question) in an attempt to get a better idea of the nominee's strengths and weaknesses. Remember to use colons or asterisks (*) at the beginning of lines when responding to other people's comments.

If you wish to change your opinion at a later date, please strke through your original Yes/No/Neutral declaration (you can do this with the tags as follows: Yes produces Yes ).

This is not a majority vote. It is an attempt to assess the community's consensus regarding the candidate. Moreover, to become an admin, the candidate should have the support of most of the community, so if the vote is split, the candidate will probably not be given adminship. Any user can contribute, but opinions have more weight if backed up by reasons and evidence (e.g. occasions in which the nominee has done particularly good or bad work). The opinions of long-standing users, particularly current administrators, will also tend to hold more weight than recently-joined or inexperienced users.

After a reasonable amount of time, a bureaucrat (a user who has even more rights than an administrator, and can give other users admin rights) will read through the request, determine the community's consensus about whether you should be made an admin, and close the discussion. The discussion will be removed from this page, but is still accessible through the page's edit history.

Advice
Here are some pieces of advice for nominators and nominees:
 * Please read through and follow the nomination guidelines above. Failure to do so will harm your chances of success.
 * Demonstrate that you understand what being an admin involves. Read through Help:Administrators' how-to guide if you are not familiar with the role.
 * Admins are expected to be good users first, but this is not sufficient to be made an admin. Number of edits, number of pages created, being nice to other users, not engaging in vandalism, knowing about Sonic, etc. are signs of a good user, but they should have no bearing on the discussion for adminship. Only users widely recognised as good users should be nominated for adminship (those that have not demonstrated this through their work will have their nominations rejected quickly) and they do not need to prove this again during the debate for adminship.
 * Don't expect that the community will be familiar with your work. You must provide evidence. In its simplest form, this may include listing pages (or talk pages) where you have been particularly influential, but preferably you should provide a link to the Diff pages of major edits you make.
 * Similarly, don't expect that the community will necessarily be aware of your nomination. You are advised to request comments from regular users, particularly admins (a list of whom can be found here). Note, however, that only asking your own friends to comment is usually transparent and may harm your chances in the long run.
 * If you are an admin on another wiki site, this can provide good evidence of your suitability for adminship, assuming either you have been granted adminship in recognition of the work you have done on the site (as opposed to receiving it because you founded the site or were one of the only users) or you have been an effective admin having received the privileges. You must provide a link to the site in question.
 * Don't lie, as doing so will almost certainly result in a failed nomination.
 * Be patient. This process is not quick. If you cannot wait for the process to conclude at its own pace, you probably aren't ready for adminship anyway.
 * Remember that this is not a talk page. Please keep discussions relevant to the matter at hand and do not start to chat. For instance, try not to thank everybody who votes in your favour.
 * Don't attempt to influence the discussion by promising to do something if you are successful.
 * Don't talk about things that you don't do, only things that you do do.
 * Please be civil!
 * Read User:Sonicrox14's blog: User blog:Sonicrox14/So, You Wanna Be An Admin?! and take a second thought about adminship.

Current Nominations For Adminship
Here are the users who are currently nominated for sysop, rollback, or other privileges.

Admiral Leviathan for Adminship
I nominate myself for adminship (Again). I feel that I would do a superb (Or as my German Teacher would say, SEHR GUT!) job as such, for these reasons:
 * Most users here already know me, and I know them. Some newer users here often ask me for assistance (If I have left a message), and I'm always happy to help.
 * I've got a good reputation amongst most of the users here.
 * I've very well behaved, and to top it off, very mature. I'm also truthful, I can't lie.
 * Like the above, I'm always happy to help with situations that need resolution, such as an argument against two users.
 * I still help a lot with the vandal situation. Like my nomination for rollback, Adminship would also be the next step up, and greatly help my abilities, I.E. I would be able to delete the phony articles vandals make, ban users who are continuously vandalizing here, etc.
 * I am always on here. The only times I'm not on are during school hours.
 * I check every edit made here, no matter how tedious this job can get, to make sure no vandalism or harassment is going on in articles and Talkpages, respectively.
 * I have a pretty good amount amount of edits for an admin nomination.
 * I have helped contribute to the wikia by creating many much-needed articles, such as articles regarding all of the S3 and S&K bosses and mini-bosses. I then went back and added images and expanding them. You also can't forget my countless hours spell-checking, re-writing, and all out refurbishing articles.
 * I'm also responsible for bringing Userboxes to the wiki, although this is superflous.
 * I have a good gauge on what's wrong and what's not.
 * Good grammar and spelling, I know what is organized in a paragraph and where.
 * Despite odds against me, I can even fix even the worst situations. Just see Here. (October 25)
 * I have recently became a Bureaucrat here, while my experiences as a Bureaucrat there are limited this far, it will be a leap forward, and hopefully will prove my capability to be an administrator here.
 * I can easily balance out extra activities (Ex. My Comic) with my Wikia duty (Ex. Editing, Reverting, etc) witout being overrun, in fact editing, for me, comes first over updating.
 * I have a pretty good knowledge of the wiki's editing tools and style, and most of my edits conform as such.
 * I'm a wiz with computers, I am very talented in several fields, such as creating images, videos, and various other components, even building script code.

Now, I may sound like I'm glamorizing myself here, and in the past I know I've been rude and hot headed, however in the last couple of months, I've been working on improving my attitude towards users, and I've been spending much less times on my comic blogs, in fact I hardly ever update the comic anymore. Lots of users here would agree with me. 19:32, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, you are really worthy of Adminship, Admiral. I can agree with all of the above, you have a good attitude, mature, you know how to handle situatinos properly, and I thought you were an Administrator when I first came here. I'll have to give myself a 20:53, January 13, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

i agree admiral leviathan should be admin he has the skills and dedication to do it Ediskrad327 23:34, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

I guess I too, support the motion to give the Admiral Adminship. You seem to be here on a regular basis (unlike me who's always absent 'cause he needs a laptop) and you have 3 times as many edits as I do even though I joined half a year before you did. Call me a Batman-type person, but I secretly pay attention to other users' contributions. I watch how they write when they edit or post; whether they have good spelling and grammar, a good attitude, and where they edit. The Admiral fits well in all of those categories, and I consider him one of the more useful users on the SNN (he's not one of those users whose edits are only on blogs, forums, talk pages etc. and have nothing to do with the actual articles). And I didn't know you were so diligent when it came to looking out for vandalism. You're probly the only Wikiknight who still does so. I'm pretty much useless at catching vandals now with this new Wikia skin, so I commend you on that. -- Eh, What's up Doc?   ~  DjWindmaster97  01:08, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your support, all of you. 02:08, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

I cast my vote FOR the Admiral. But...

HOLD IT!

If you're on so long, how do you sleep?!!-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 02:15, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Normally, I go to bed around ten, but sometimes I go to bed really late, and wake up really late. Pretty much what your average Teenager does on a daily basis. 02:19, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

I see. Okay. lol-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 02:30, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

YES If Admiral Levithan was not already nominated, I think I would nominate him. He cares about this wiki and protects it well from many annoying vandals. I believe with Admin privileges he can do even more good on this wiki. Sonictoast 03:13, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

I vote yes. AL will be a good admin. He has a good amount of edits, he's helped this place more than once, and he tries to stop vandals. So AL should be admin! Ultimate Dude  127  15:21, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

No - Your mainspace hasn't reached a 1000 yet and only covers 13%. You know, it's great that you are changing your tone alot more calmer than before. But that doesn't mean you can get your nomination early. You just have to keep it up. Everyone believes that they can handle admin abilities, I cannot even imagine a user who can say that he/she does not know how to handle the works of an admin. Okay, really, if you want your vote from me then you can just tell me what are you going to do when you become admin.--58SlugDrones! 14:49, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

No - Your mainspace hasn't reached a 1000 yet and only covers 13%. You are a Braggart and you always expect optisimism from your so-called "Worshipers" (They call you grand Admiral? Seriously, GRAND and if anyone says anything little wrong about you then they attack like an Admiral Army - So you are a braggart).
 * Comments:
 * Most users know huh, So? You got friends, So?, You send messages, So?.
 * Reputation only means friends on your behalf.
 * You are well behaved, maybe??? You are mature, maybe???. Truthful? No one has even asked you the T&L before!
 * When it comes to dealing, you act like the "boss" of everyone!
 * Adminship wouldn't be your next step.
 * Your always on here, So Blue-heck what? Thats just addiction, because this is not a company.
 * I am sure everyone does that.
 * False, only 900 or something, atleast 3000 or 2000.
 * Good enough
 * Good enough
 * That is just praising yourself, I do not remember when anyone gave you a decision.
 * Maybe
 * Anyone can do that. I have, 58 has, Morff has.
 * You became a Bureaucrat in a fanon wiki, anyone can do as much fandom as they want, so that is not a privilege.
 * Not convincing
 * I also have, so it does not matter
 * Me too.

So, In case you have not read it, It is: REQUEST FOR ADMINSHIP! NOT REQUEST FOR GOD OR SOMETHING!! YOU ARE JUST PRAISING YOURSELF!--DiscoDuck

The duck does prove some points here. Though, quite harsh. But, really, if you want my vote you just need to keep this up. What are you going to do when you earn your adminship?--58SlugDrones! 16:00, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

You know, I would respect what you have said (As I'm doing with SlugDrones), but you, Discoduck, don't need to rip apart my adminship nomination and insult me, and pretty much all of what you've said was driven by your immense hatred of me, which I did NO-THING to get you this upset! Remember the rules here; Be Civil, and you are clearly not following such rule.

58, the first thing I will do when I become admin is assist in Morff and other admins in deleting all of the fanon articles that belong to users who have been gone for so long. Doing so will greatly benefit our move by lightening the amount of stuff that we need to move. As time progresses, I will continue my regular duties of reverting edits, although this time I can skip a step in removing spam articles and outright delete it, without having to wait for an admin to do so. The same with vandals who repeatedly vandalize any pages, instead of warnings (Which usually lead to my page getting flamed with 'OMFG I HATEZ YOU!11!!') I can block him/her.

You know, you've also said the same thing about my edits the last time I nominated myself back in September, and my amoung of MS edits has grown quite a bit. And, to be bland, the amount of MS edits didn't stop Sooooomeone from getting Bureaucracy (No insult intended). -- 16:26, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

You've got a lot of potential Lev. I'm not going to make my decision just yet. I will, however, give you some friendly advice. It may be a good idea to do things in an official manner. For example when you tagged a Fanon page (A Wild Win) for deletion recently, you claimed your reason was "TL:DR" which i can only presume was "Too Long: Didn't Read". Not only was that not a very good reason (no offense man) it was also internet slang. That of which is not quite common in articles, is it? It may be better to say "Spam" or "Fanon", I really hope this helps -- 'Murphyshane -  Morph! He's alive! Don't click here '  16:54, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lev, I see what you are going through here. You really are dedicated, I know. But, for an advice, just keep this up, not now, alright? As for Sonicrox14, you know she doesn't deserve adminship, right? Just because she earned bureaucracy with barely contributing mainspace to this site does not mean you have to do that as well because here is the story: She never nominated herself and neither was she or anybody else ready for her to earn it. But, SLJ and FFF were leaving the site and because they were admins (and very important ones) there would be very few admins in the site as before, 4 admins had already left the website before they left. SLJ was concerned and had to give adminship to atleast someone. Unfortunately, I don't think he actually had any other choice but to choose Launchballer, Sonicrox14 and Kagimizu. And guess who voted? They voted for themselves and each other, but Launchballer couldn't earn adminship. After a very short discussion, adminship was given to them. Kagi is fine but not her.

Now this site is alot more complex so we now understand what it takes to be admin. Before it was just a give and take thing but now it's alot more complex and the challenge will be harder as good admins here keep up their work. As for you, I still suggest you keep this up and contribute more of those mainspace edits.--58SlugDrones! 17:14, January 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * I see your point, but I'm not trying to do the same. Also, it's kinda hard to do anything on here if Someoooooooone thinks everything I do is just me apprasing myself and induging my ecomania! AdmiralLevi.Signiture_B.gifAdmiralLevi._Salute_B.gif 17:20, January 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * I know how ya feel buddy. Criticism is tough for everyone to put up with -- Murphyshane -  Morph! He's alive! Don't click here   17:22, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Uh, Lev. Seriously, are you that annoyed with him? He does talk weird but really, has he ever said anything to you? And, Murph I think you can give a proper vote. Is it yes or no?--58SlugDrones! 17:25, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

"Another Average comic"

"Meh"

"Meh, (BIG MEH)"

"Ah, Give me a freaking break"

"Who here is in love with my avatar"

"Good luck Tikal" (Posted Sarcastically)

"Why do you people love Tikal411 so very fat sonamysux much!"

"Sala Sucks, who is up with that

Salacomandar: I dont Suck you****

58SlugDrones!: (Eats Sala)

DiscoDuck: The drawings are ugly, true, they are stupid, true but they mean alot

Salacomander:Sorry"

"It will fail"

"..Sadly I have the perfect mascot"

"Dear Fello PPLZ: New Contest: http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:DiscoDuck/Best_of_the_Best_Contest" (Advertising on various blogs)

"Hello. As I cut the talk short, DiscoDuck makes comics, which one is the best"

"So N/A is perhaps the Duck?"

"¬_¬"

"I never really Liked your comic Lev, But this one is veRy good (I LUV TO USER AK47 IN COD4)"

"...Your'e stupid. Fat blog (No offence), because we cannot do anything about it! Take SEGA's fat number 0306785212! Thus, you are only crying cuz you want to play Sonic Colors!"

Do I need to quote his post above, even? I would go on, but it seems the list goes on quite a bit. 17:35, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

I ate Sala? Wasn't I supposed to eat Salad?! Anyways, your point was that you are sick of him, right? I can see that he acts like a "troll". I still do not find him annoying though, he is just being weird. But I can discuss with other admins if you want him banned. Now back to the topic of your Adminship!--58SlugDrones! 06:29, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

I really, really don't remember the conversation above that I was alegedly apart of, let alone being eaten by 58. Anyways, matter at hand, I have huge respect for the Admiral, and I don't see any real problems keeping him away from adminship.

-SalaComMander 21:50, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

The problems are:


 * Mainspace is quite low. Mainspace matter most to be an admin.
 * I do not see him discussing on important matters.
 * He is asking too early.
 * I believe he is just in the stage of becoming an admin.
 * I think someone deserves adminship more than he does.
 * He is just better than the normal users. Not enough to be an admin.
 * I do not see him dealing with vandals.
 * He thinks coming here everyday and knowing whatever is going on is going to lead him to adminship. Though it does, but that doesn't count as I am pretty much sure normal users know that too.--58SlugDrones! 07:07, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Well, while I haven't been active very much as of late, if my vote still counts....

First and foremost, edit numbers don't count. Experience, reputation, personality, and relationship with the rest of the Users are the most important aspects of an admin. In response to what 58 said, a lot of Users rarely actually discuss important matters; it stinks, but is quite true. Admiral has been around for roughly a year, which is more than enough time. I asked back when I had only been around a few months, and after quite some time got my adminship. And 58, if you kow someone who you believe deserves it more, by all means, nominate that person.

Now, in my personal opinion, Lev has as of late shown good behaviour, especially dealing with Donald's comments (who should've been reprimanded by now >>). He has experience, and knows what he's doing. Dealing with vandalism also can't be a dealbreaker in certain cases; my main reason for being an admin was to take care of vandalism, and when others did that more often and took care of it before me, I was left with little to do. To be quite honest, we have a good few admins around here, but some of us aren't very active, especially when it comes to talking to and dealing with the other Users, something Lev does quite often.

In the end, my vote will have to be..... Yes. I think Lev deserves this adminship, especially after improving himself so much.--Kagi mizu -Seeya 'round 07:44, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

If there is anybody that deserves adminship now, it's Murphyshane. I have voted for him several times, Kagi. I do know that experience, reputation, personality, and relationship matter. But, edit counts do matter alot. Because of our contributions to articles, many fans come here. Personality is with the people who want to contribute or deal with someone here. But the majority of Sonic fans just come here for information and don't even know who we are. Thus, the users I respect are not usually with personality - if they contribute pretty good then I give them attention. Lev's contributions are fine for a rollback which is why I respect him, but not enough for an admin. He doesn't exactly discuss on important matters. Sorry, but I think he should co-operate more. I do not see much skill. I know he is trying, I know he is a good person, a faithful one too but I cannot accept his adminship.--58SlugDrones! 13:26, January 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for the slap in the face, Drones. AdmiralLevi.Signiture_B.gifAdmiralLevi._Salute_B.gif 15:46, January 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Don't take this personally but that is one of your faults Lev, you need to understand why users decide not to vote for you and respect it -- Murphyshane -  Morph! He's alive! Don't click here   16:29, January 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, my comment was taken out of context. I wasn't talking about 58 voting no (She already did, and I was fine with it) rather 58 saying on my adminship nomination that another user was better, and literally convincing a person that voted yes that I wasn't qualified. Regardless or not if s/he those were his/her intentions, it's still kind of an insult to me. AdmiralLevi.Signiture_B.gifAdmiralLevi._Salute_B.gif 16:43, January 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * True I suppose -- Murphyshane -  Morph! He's alive! <font color="#C0C0C0">Don't click here   20:14, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, so let's all pretend I didn't say, "I know he is trying, I know he is a good person, a faithful one too..." and "Lev's contributions are fine for a rollback which is why I respect him.", alright? Let me just vote no and give no reasons. You can call me "biased" and "gone worse after adminship" behind my back but I can't express to a voter why I vote no?

You do know that Kagi's message was half-directed at me, right? So, I replied. If Sala can tell me that there is nothing wrong with you being an admin then why can't I express? Forget it. My vote was no and that was the only criticism you could handle. I will be ignoring you. Many months before and after my adminship, I never showed any anger. Now I am fed up.--58SlugDrones! 17:37, January 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Look, don't get mad at me. I didn't look like Kagi's comment was directed half at you, but if it was, I apologize. Simple as that. AdmiralLevi.Signiture_B.gifAdmiralLevi._Salute_B.gif 18:00, January 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Neither Drones or Lev were being rude just misunderstood, am I right? -- <font color="Crimson">Murphyshane - <font color="#00b6ee"> Morph! He's alive! <font color="#C0C0C0">Don't click here   20:15, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Well 58, plenty of our admins don't a lot of mainspace contributions. And I made a point about that, saying we need more admins to deal with the actual Users. Here's how it goes: Content Users kept happy and out of trouble --->> More actual contributions, less trolling and flaming --->> Better SNN overall.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 18:08, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Murphyshane & AdmiralLevithan: Yes! I think both of them are more than qualified for the job. They both have worked hard to protect and improve this Wiki and could do even greater jobs as admins. For example: The Admiral has created the majority of the userboxes that exist and Murph has created amazing talk bubbles upon request for anyone. Why am i saying yes to both? Lets's think about this... HALF OF THE CURRENT ADMINS HAVE LEFT US! For most of the current admins including the wiki's creator have not been here for years so what's the point of even keeping their names on the list of admins? I mean only about 1/2 of the admins are ever here. So, i say yes to both of them and hope you consider my statment. JaketheHedgehog 03:56, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Which admins have left "us"?--58SlugDrones! 04:48, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

In order on the list of admins:

Almafeta, Fairfieldfencer, FerralMoonrender, Guess Who (the founder himself), Milotheechidna, Molten Scandium, Navij11, Sacre Fi, SLJCAAATR 1, and Sunny the Hedgehog. JaketheHedgehog 05:02, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

YES! I don't know if my earlier post here counts as a vote, but I'm gonna give it another go, anyway. I have a lot of respect for the Admiral. I've watched him do things here. Here are the results from my assessment:


 * He is what he says he is, and there are a few witnesses that can testify towards that.


 * I admit, there are a few times he flies off the handle, but for the majority of his actions and behavior, he's quite friendly and helpful. Also quite calm. (For the record, the calm ones usually blast bigger. I am living proof of this, but you have to know me in person)


 * He is most certainly NOT a braggart. I talk to him often (usually here, these days, but I sometimes catch him on Xbox LIVE) and he doesn't brag at all.


 * The evidence shows that Adm. Leviathan is quite capable of dealing with vandals. I feel he could do better with some new tools on his tool-belt.


 * Edit-count? Irrelevant to the case. We get a good amount of mainspace edits as it stands. But the big picture is n00bs that ruin people's days. (n00b is not always a newbie. There is a difference)

So there. The irrefutable evidence that Mr. Leviathan is qualified for Adminship.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 15:46, January 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Excuse me? I've never been rude to any of the people you've listed, stern yes, but rude no. All three people you listed I've talked to them, and I was stern for good reasons on the two accounts. Also, the account 'AmyRose15' doesn't exist, there's an AmyRose14 who I've never talked to and an 'AmyRose1515' who I'm an aqcuaintince with on SFW, so-
 * Secondly, 'offensive'? I'm addressing everyone here one I say this, so listen to me; I'm hearing this term being thrown around a lot and I'm hardly ever 'Offensive'. Offensive is me insulting a person's taste in music or me creating a comic to degrade a belief or group (This action also constitutes Libel/Slander), I am not offensive, there are particular cases of me being rude, yes but how long ago were many of these? Now look at my recent 'occasions', read them with a calmed down sense (How I intend most of my comments to be read). Seems much less rude now does it? If I was yelling, I would talk LIKE THIS.
 * Secondly, 'offensive'? I'm addressing everyone here one I say this, so listen to me; I'm hearing this term being thrown around a lot and I'm hardly ever 'Offensive'. Offensive is me insulting a person's taste in music or me creating a comic to degrade a belief or group (This action also constitutes Libel/Slander), I am not offensive, there are particular cases of me being rude, yes but how long ago were many of these? Now look at my recent 'occasions', read them with a calmed down sense (How I intend most of my comments to be read). Seems much less rude now does it? If I was yelling, I would talk LIKE THIS.

Most of the other times (Ex. if I tell a person to "Please stop vandalising here, if you cntinue to do so you can be banned.") something like that can be mistaken for rudeness, read that sentence out loud in various tones and moods. Like I said, I post most of my comments in a calm tone.

A person's mood can also affect how they read future comments from the same poster, you can see that with a certain someone who I won't repeat his name here.

Also, there seems to be an issue where my use of emphasis can also be mistaken for yelling, in a look at how I use text, when I put empasis on words I italicize them. Like I just did. This isn't yelling or anything, when I bold info I'm basically doing the same, but I only do both at once if I'm trying to get a point clear.

I hope this clears the whole 'offensiveness' issue up. 22:02, February 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * I disagree with your definition. One of my comments would be offensive if someone might reasonably take offence at it, regardless of whether I intended it to be offensive or not. The fact that people have taken offense at your comments probably means that it is very easy to misconstrue what you write.
 * You've identified the problem, though: it is difficult to convey tone or expression in a purely textual medium. But though you say that readers should assume you are using a neutral tone, a better approach for an admin would be to reword your comments so that your tone was clearer. I often have to sit and reword my comments three or four times before posting so that people won't think I'm being unnecessarily mean.
 * As an example, you've mentioned your use of italics. I for one never consider italics to be the same as shouting. However, that sort of emphasis does destroy the perception of a neutral tone. Look at this recent edit. You would have made the same point with or without emphasis (and the emphasis has not improved clarity), but by adding italics you have expressed irritation. Since the irritation is obvious, anyone reading the post will realise that your tone is not neutral, so it is easier to take offense than if you'd just left the italics out. (I realise that, in this particular instance, expressing irritation was probably intentional, but the point applies to other situations as well.) -- Supermorff 20:58, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yes: OK, so i went over this again and I think that the boy deserves this privelige. I wish you the best of luck, Lev. -- '<font color="Crimson">Murphyshane - <font color="#00b6ee"> Morph! He's alive! <font color="#C0C0C0">Don't click here '  17:07, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

First of all, if you're going to bias your vote based off of one undo you had to do, you might need to be told that if you see something gramaticlly incorrect: Fix the grammar, don't undo that edit. In the show itself he summons the grabbers and refers to them as burrowbots, which I corrected with more correct grammar, however forgot to remove the word "were". Instead of undoing you could have just removed "were" or informed me of my mistake, not treating it as if I vandalized the page. 22:51, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yea, I'm still learning so don't blame me. But if your mainspace hasn't reached 1,000 then it should be a no. You should get your mainspace edits to at least 1,500 before you run for adminship. If you get your mainspace edits up, then it will be a yes from me. But for now, no.

Bullet Francisco 01:06, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

No:You hardly even edit in mainspace! All you're doing is making comics and contributing on blogs. You have 7,000 edits. But those are just blog contributions, messages and comics. No. I'm saying no. -- Unknown User. 20:15, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, enough's enough; for the last freaking time, EDIT COUNT DOES NOT MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE. He probably has more mainspace edits than me, but I've been an admin since before he even showed up on this wiki!--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 22:06, February 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * While I sort of agree that edit count shouldn't really matter, Admiral actually has less than half the mainspace edits you do. He does have more than Shelly, though. Also, the wiki has changed considerably so you became an admin. We all had fewer edits back then. The role of admins, the need for them, and the process for determining who should be one have all moved on. -- Supermorff 22:40, February 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * You know, it's funny how people milk the same things over and over after someone else says something on here. If any of you'd pay attention, you'd notice that I edit Mainspace frequently, and keep users who vandalize in line. Editing a blog a few thousand times in the past shouldn't have to be a deterrent if I've been editing mainspace with the same frequency in the present. Someone brought up a good point (I think it was you, Kag) that I head for the source of the issue (The user) instead of just undoing any edits. This is the part of my problem solving style many of our contributors seem to ignore. AdmiralLevi.Signiture_B.gifAdmiralLevi._Salute_B.gif 01:24, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

=== <font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round (Bureaucracy) === Whoo boy; when I first went for adminship on SNN over a year ago, I couldn't believe I was seriously trying for it. Now, I'm going a step further, and can't believe it. Anyways, I've been on SNN for almost two years, though my activity in the last few months has been down. I'm experienced in the working of this wiki, know most of the more experienced Users, and know how to work most of the aspects of this wiki. I get along with most of the Users, have a good reputation on this wiki and others, and as I've proven many times, can handle myself in various situations. I hope to get bureaucracy so that I might have more to do on the wiki, in that I can help manage the wiki more, and handle fights involving or between admins. I can also help promote and (hopefully on extremely rare occasions) demote admins. I've also been told by Fairfieldfencer, one of the most experienced Users around, that I'm a very good judge of character (seen here), so I can hopefully deal with Users properly as a bureaucrat. So, please vote on whether or not you think I deserve bureaucracy. For a long time I've believed I didn't, but with bureaucracy I hope to be of more use to this wiki, so I hope you all do think I deserve it.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 05:32, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

YES! I think you deserve this position. Here is my testimony.

I've known you for almost two years. And the work you've done in those years was simply splendid.

What Fairfieldfencer says is true. You are a very good judge of character. However, keep in mind that you aren't perfect. That's the stuff of fiction. xD

And you are quite experienced. In fact, I think you sped past my experience level. (I blame me going AWOL)

On top of that, you are very good at serving justice where it's due. I'd have you be the judge of my cases anyday, if it was up to me. lol

And there you have it. That's my testimony. Any NOs that are willing to destroy it?-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 08:45, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yes: Well, a blind man could see that you're qualified enough. You have wikia experience, you have been made admin on several sites, you've kept a good record (except for a few events that i witnessed with my own eyes), you've given alot to this wiki, so I think it's time you got something back. I rest my case. -- '<font color="Crimson">Murphyshane - <font color="#00b6ee"> Morph! He's alive! <font color="#C0C0C0">Don't click here '  11:15, January 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * No: I'm afraid I don't think this is appropriate. You're a good admin, absolutely, but I don't think you're a good fit for bureaucracy. You say you want to be a bureaucrat so that you have more to do - considering your contributions lately have been slipping (as you yourself attest), this is a poor reason. Whatever is the reason for your slipping contributions, it certainly isn't because you're not a bureaucrat, so I fail to see why giving you these extra privileges is going to make you work harder.
 * Possibly you think that some important bureaucracy work is not being adequately performed - in which case, first of all, you should tell the current bureaucrats so they can improve their own performance and, second of all, you should say that here so that it improves your chances.
 * Lastly, while you might be a good judge of character (incidentally, I can't find FFF saying that anywhere on the page you linked to), I don't think you are particularly adept at investigating incidents before handing down judgement. On several occasions I have seen you hand out blocks that seemed incredibly excessive, then when I looked into the matter I could find no real reason behind them - in one memorable case, you had blocked the individual that was actually being bullied. Now I'm not saying this is common, but I've seen it enough to think that it might happen in the future, and there's a bigger risk if you have the bureaucrat powers. -- Supermorff

No: I'm with Supermorff on this one. I also do not see Fairfieldfencer saying that in the link, but that shouldn't matter. I do not think you are a good judge of character at all. You block excessively for no good reason and you set the ban pretty long. I do not see you being responsible for anything. You have given many delays for the work you had to handle. You are a good admin, one of the best in this site. You are experienced as well and you do not talk any nonsense at all. But, I am not certain for your bureaucracy, I do not think you are fit for a rank like that.
 * Personally I did dislike one thing of yours - Bunnyboo50 asked you to make an image of her character into 3D, I was quite surprised on the reply you had given to her, you replied that you do not take requests from strangers. First of all, for an admin noone is a stranger in this site because an admin has to know about everyone, but that's not the reason why I was surprised. You are an admin, Kagi. You have to try to help anyone and give your best especially when a new user is asking you something when it comes to help. That reply was quite rude. Even though it had nothing to do with this site, it was still more of an anti-admin to me. You need to help anyone.
 * You can give the reason on why do you want to be a bureaucrat. What will you do when you earn bureaucracy?
 * There was a time in which Multiverseman asked you to block Sonic & Scrab Master (I am not sure about the reason though) and you directly swore and flamed at him. There are the many times your decision appear to be rash and you flame out anger at people who say a little negative about your friends. I am not sure you can stand up for a person who is not your friend. It seems alot like you just wish to help your friends and listen to no-one else.--58SlugDrones! 15:24, January 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * @Supermorff: The reason I believe bureaucracy will help me improve my contributions is that I'll have more responsibility when it comes to the wiki. In addition, I know I can occasionally be rash, but I'm only human. I don't recall ever blocking someone who was the one being bullied, but if that happened then I apologize. I'll be more careful with banning people in the future. And also Morff, there are only two 'crats on here.
 * @58SlugDrones!: 1: Alright 58, get the whole freaking story before you talk about this stuff. First and foremost, Bunnyboo's request has absolutely nothing to do with my adminship. When I said I don't do requests for strangers, I was referring to the fact that I don't know Bunnyboo in the least; I don't even know whether they're a he or a she! Regardless of being an admin or not, I'm not going to just accept a request for a picture that comes out of nowhere from a complete stranger. Wouldn't have mattered if they asked me here, SFW, DA, or anywhere else. Accepting art requests has absolutely NO bearing on my status as an admin, so I'm rather upset you think that has anything to do with this. The only responsibility I have is to keep this wiki safe and organized, and keep other Users out of trouble; what I do beyond that (so long as it doesn't break any rules) has nothing to do with my adminship. 2: I'm hoping that the additional responsibility will be enough for me to be more active on the wiki. 3: As I said, get the whole freaking story. Mult wanted SSM banned over something that involved a seperate wiki; a person can't be banned for something that occurs on a different wiki, because it has no bearing on the other wiki. Mult obviously dislikes SSM and wants him gone, so when he saw the opportunity, he ran right to me in order to get him banned. I saw the blatant bias in this, and I was furious that Mult attempted to pull such an obvious, idiotic stunt. Second, I do not let my friends get away with breaking rules; that's one of the aspects that got me nominated to be a 'crat here. However, regardless of adminship or anything else, I will stand up for my friends if I have to, just like any other person would.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 20:07, January 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Maybe: Look Kags, I like you, you like me, we're both good friends. While I can say I can tell you've been a good admin, I feel that you should wait a while to, well, mature. While your edits and contributions may say you're qualified, your actions here and on SFW make me say otherwise. Also, your method of advertising your nomination has been. . . sketchy. While I don't agree with Genesjs on the count of using your own blogs to advertise this (Which I honestly believe is fine as long as you don't put any bias into it), however you asked me in recent times to advertise your nomination, which is something I believe is kind of rude to do considering my current nomination. Also, your responses to the above 'No' votes have been. . . well, kindof harsh. All I'm saying is that you should probably wait, and try again later with a bit more civility. AdmiralLevi.Signiture_B.gifAdmiralLevi._Salute_B.gif 15:44, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

I apologize for the implied rudeness then; I just figured I could rely on you to help me out, that's all. And the only person I was anywhere near harsh to was 58, who used instances that have nothing to do with adminship at all and small parts of the whole story as reasons I shouldn't be a 'crat. 58's talked about me behind my back and criticized me behind my back, rather than coming to me directly, and now claims that I'm being rude, lazy, and biased, while using above incidents. Obviously I would be rather ticked off about that.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 16:02, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

OBJECTION!

While I agree that the "advertisement" move wasn't the best move, and that his response to 58SD was a bit harsh, there's not enough evidence that makes him not qualified enough for Bureaucracy. However, if there is, I'd very much like to see it.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 01:10, February 4, 2011 (UTC)I'm fairly confident that there's not enough evidence. My vote stays "YES".


 * Akamia, I think you're confused about where the burden of proof lies in this case. We don't have to prove he's not qualified, Kagi has to prove that he is qualified. He hasn't.
 * Kagi, I agree with you that art requests aren't relevant to bureaucracy nominations, but the argument that you'll become more active when you have more responsibility doesn't hold any weight. The wiki is a volunteer organisation - the only responsibilities you have are ones you create yourself by doing particular jobs. If an admin takes on the job of, say, monitoring recent changes for vandalism, then that becomes their responsibility until they decide to stop doing that. Giving you extra powers won't necessarily give you extra responsibility unless you choose to accept it, and therefore it won't give you any incentive to stick around.
 * As to the 'Mult v SSM' incident (which I have no prior knowledge of so this is an honest question), do you think your response was measured and reasonable? Was it necessary to snap at Mult or would a simple "No, we don't block people for their actions on other wikis" have sufficed?
 * And yes, I know exactly how many bureaucrats we've got, thank you. Can you identify any instances in which two bureaucrats have not been sufficient to keep the wiki running smoothly, or any instances in which it would have been useful to have an extra bureaucrat because one of the existing ones wasn't helping or wasn't available? I can't, but if there are any I'd love to know about them. -- Supermorff 17:58, February 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * The fact is that I do fully plan on taking the extra responsibility.
 * If it had been someone who had had no negative history with SSM and thought they were honestly doing the right thing, I would've explained the rules to them, since it would be an honest mistake. However, both Mult and SSM have been very antagonistic to each other, and Mult was clearly only doing something about said actions on a seperate wiki as an excuse to have SSM demoted and banned. For all we know, Mult could have been fully aware about the rule "actions on a different wiki do not effect one's status on this wiki". The fact that Mult attempted to pull such a thing, actually thought I would be dump enough to do it, and took such actions against a friend of mine, all as an excuse to spite said friend, made me furious.
 * Well on SFW, there have been occasions where the number of admins and 'crats have been insufficient. At one point SFW had up to 3 'crats, but they weren't always on to handle things. Two of those admins have left SFW, and with the remaining one living in Australia, he's rarely on during most incidents, especially concerning ones between admins. Now, Shelly is unable to be on very often due to schoolwork and other reasons, and to be honest, I don't always see you on often during the day. While I personally think we have enough admins, when it comes to bureaucracy I figure "best to be overprepared for incidents, rather than underprepared".--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 18:25, February 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * You plan on taking extra responsibility, but why can't you do this right now? What do you plan to take responsibility for that requires bureaucrat privileges?
 * As for your other point, frankly I just disagree. Bureaucracy isn't a day-to-day thing, and the abilities only need to be used rarely. If we haven't had problems in the past I see no reason to think that we'll have problems in the future, and I see no reason to hand out irrevocable powers "just in case". -- Supermorff 19:04, February 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, if there are fights involving or between admins, I'd be able to step in and get them to stop before something happens, like someone trying to block the other person. If an admin goes out of hand, I'd be able to ste them straight and undo whatever they did. I'd also be able to promote people who have gotten the majority votes needed to be promoted to admin/crat, so they don't end up waiting for months like I did. And if an admin abuses their privelages, I'd be able to demote them. Making sure that nothing happens concerning the admins in addition to my current responsibilities as an admin would be more reason to be on often. The reason I haven't is because as of late is because the other admins have been able to take care of anything that comes around before I have a chance to. Since the only real way I can contribute is by undoing vandalism and whatnot, that leaves me with little to do on the wiki. On top of that, most of the time when I'm checkin on SNN, it seems that absolutely nothing is happening. So, I usually ended up spending time on other sites that seemed to have more activity and/or needed more help.
 * shrugs* As time goes on, new admins and Users will come around, and some of said admins may end up needing to be taken care of.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 19:18, February 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, funnily enough I already know exactly what you'll be able to do with bureaucrat powers. That's exactly why I don't feel it's appropriate to give them to you. And the argument that there may possibly be issues in future that will require your attention doesn't convince me in the slightest. -- Supermorff 21:16, February 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, it's disappointing you feel I don't deserve them. And bureaucrat powers are revocable, BTW.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 21:48, February 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * A person can remove their own bureaucrat powers, but nobody else's. For that you have to get a dispensation from Wikia staff. -- Supermorff 09:22, February 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's what I meant; go to Staff and get 'crat powers removed (and post-move, whoever replaces said Staff).--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 19:28, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Anyone else gonna vote? I've got 2 yes, 2 no, and 1 maybe.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 02:56, February 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * You gotta love lemons. AdmiralLevi.Signiture_B.gifAdmiralLevi._Salute_B.gif 03:13, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

What?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 03:20, February 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * You know? The Lemon? Odd one out? Black Sheep? You got two Yes' and two No's, so my one 'Maybe' is the odd one out. A 'lemon'. AdmiralLevi.Signiture_B.gifAdmiralLevi._Salute_B.gif 03:26, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Ah. Thought you meant... something else.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 03:30, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

YES This wiki is low on Bureaucracy. I can't think of any other user that deserves to be a Bureaucrat more than Kagi (aside from those who are already Bureaucrats of course). I believe he will use his privileges responsibly. Sonictoast 17:01, February 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Is it low on Bureaucracy? Honestly, I'm asking. I mean, I also work over at Marvel Database from time to time. They only have two bureaucrats. They also get about five times more edits than we do in a day, and have about 20 times as many pages. Wookieepedia is a bit larger still, and they have 5 bureaucrats. These are really well-run sites, and don't seem to have suffered for any lack of Bureaucracy. -- Supermorff 21:02, February 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Not gonna argue, but sticking with my vote.Sonictoast 22:23, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

I'm probably wrong, but isn't the only difference between admins and 'crats the ability to change user rights?  Myself  <font color="Black">123  16:51, February 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yep. -- Supermorff 16:59, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes:Kag is a good admin. I think he is ready to go a little further and become a 'crat. Plus we are low on 'crats. - Unknown User. 20:10, February 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes:Kag is a good admin. I think he is ready to go a little further and become a 'crat. Plus we are low on 'crats. - Unknown User. 20:10, February 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes:Kag is a good admin. I think he is ready to go a little further and become a 'crat. Plus we are low on 'crats. - Unknown User. 20:10, February 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes:Kag is a good admin. I think he is ready to go a little further and become a 'crat. Plus we are low on 'crats. - Unknown User. 20:10, February 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes:Kag is a good admin. I think he is ready to go a little further and become a 'crat. Plus we are low on 'crats. - Unknown User. 20:10, February 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Again, we are not low on bureaucrats. We have as many as the Marvel Database, which is vastly bigger than this wiki. How many 'crats do you think we should have? -- Supermorff 21:54, February 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * I honestly think that Kagi deserves it. However, we are not low on"'crats" either. One more would be fine and a nice place for Kagimizu be. It is revokable, so if we do decide to not make him a bureaucrat, it won't make a significant difference. But I do agree with Supermorff about how we aren't low on 'crats.
 * Bullet Francisco 20:08, March 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Bullet Francisco 20:08, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

JaketheHedgehog for Rollback
I believe Jake has truly worked hard and has earned the Rollback position. I nominate Jake for all these reasons. My vote is obviously a Yes.
 * He is friendly with users
 * Warns vandalers to stop
 * Has a great amount of edits
 * Improves the wiki everyday

 Bullet Francisco ''' Don't be a jerk to the Bullet! '03:24, March 8, 2011 (UTC)''

My best friend.OF COURSE

The Supreme,Fly the Fox! 04:07, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Jake, your one of my best friends on SNN, and I will vote you but what @S&SM is right, you need many edits to become a rollback. I also don't see why edits matter, but rules are rules. But I still vote YES for you due to being a good user on SNN. Bunnyboo50

Bullet Francisco For Rollback
No-It's far too early for him to be nominated. Let's wait about a month or two and see what happens. Sonic &amp; Scrab  Master   Just call me Deepthroat  03:30, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

YES

The Supreme,Fly the Fox! 04:07, March 8, 2011 (UTC)