Sonic News Network:Requests for User Rights/Mewkat14 (Chat Moderator Demotion)

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Mewkat14 (Demotion)
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The way Mew has been acting is not how a chat moderator should act, such as not respecting opinions, and one time (not calling out names) a user cursed on chat, and she didn't care about it, called a user ignorant, being away most of the time (at least I think a mod should keep alert on chat, but that may just be me), and when I told her to not act that way she just blew it off. Plus she's an underage (most likely 12 now) so she shouldn't have become a mod in the first place. We all have our own   styles we   won't change  17:36, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) As the poster. We all  have our own  styles we   won't change  17:41, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) Underage eh? 'Spose that calls for a demotion. -CariconCommander 17:38, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) Per the reasons above. -- 17:39, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) I'd appreciate confirmation if Mewkat is indeed underage, however I am convinced she needs to be demoted for not being a dependent and responsible moderator. 17:42, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * 5) Jes:Per above. 17:43, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * 6) No offese to Mew but when I go on chat and she's there, she does nothing.Zackery Willson 17:48, June 29, 2012 (UTC)BlueSpeeder-6/29/12-12:47pm
 * 7) Per Sacor, I wasn't there but I support anyways. Pacmansonic138 17:53, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * 8) I support, mainly because she's always away and she's (apparently) underage.
 * 9) Per all. ★Dont mess with   Panda Power!★  21:24, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * 10) Per Sacor. Willaca (talk)  22:29, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * 11) Per the reasons above. [[File:SonicRunPeace.gif]] Sonic is awesome  Eevee's are adorable [[File:Th_Eevee.gif]] 23:48, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * 12) Absolutely. 02:26, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * 13) Judging by the behavior described above, I would have to agree that Mew is, unfortunately, not quite mature enough to handle the responsibility. Also, giant COPPA violation. But, aside from that, the responsibilities of a moderator are numerous, and a moderator needs to maintain a certain decorum within the chat, as well as keep their own behavior in check. Now, this is not to say that I am an expert on such things or that I'm a saint of an admin (elsewhere), as I have unleashed my own fair share of snark. However, I do atone for such behavior, as it is unbecoming of a person in a position of power. Mew, being underage, has other responsibilities to concern herself with. School, being a kid, homework, etc. At twelve years of age, not only is she violating COPPA, but she is also not mature enough to handle the responsibility.
 * 14) *Think of it this way; the chat room is a house full of kids and Mew needs to babysit these children. At times, there can be more than five or six children (that I've seen). An ideal caregiver-to-child ratio is one-to-one. Mew cannot be expected to maintain civility in such an environment when she herself is only learning how to become a responsible adult. I haven't gotten the time to get to know Mew, but I was asked to add my thoughts. I have nothing against Mew, but from my own observations over the years, 12 is far too young to expect someone to be able to handle the responsibility of a chat moderator.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 03:04, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * 15) Per all. -- ★Mega http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111019081044/kirby/en/images/d/d5/Kirbymassiveattack.png  Speedy★  17:07, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * 16) I say she should be demoted. Tyler the Hedgehog  "The ultimate son of a gun Charmcaster!"  19:00, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * 17) Per all above.---[[File:Hyper_Sonic_Modern.gif]] Fly the Fox ,Rainbow Dash  19:02, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * 18) Dear God, she's not even 13? She shouldn't even be on here. Absolutely supporting demotion. --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher. ( Talk )( Recent finds and updates. ) 21:49, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * 19) Per all. [[File:Stephen coop-1-.gif]] ★Cant stop me  from rockin out★ [[File:Scott coop-1-.gif]] 22:57, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

VOTING IS NOW CLOSED

Oppose

 * 1) I have passed this message to Sacorguy before this demotion was made that most of the time she is Away on chat. However such treatment shouldn't be given to such a humble user, I never saw her ruse actions on chat and as Spyro is saying that she has done mistakes once. And the fact that she is underage shouldn't matter that much. She is underage but that doesn't change the fact that she is a humble user with many friends here, she contributes well and constantly entertains users with blogs, We should be proud on how one of our top current users here is only 12. Also this demotion was made without informing her, bad move Spyro. --FreeMilkShakesHere! 16:03, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

VOTING IS NOW CLOSED

Discussion

 * Mewkat is underage? Not only would that call for demotion, but would call for a block until she is of age.
 * True, though it hasn't been confirmed if this is also the case. 17:55, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Mew basically said it for herself that she's underage. We all  have our own   styles we   won't change  17:58, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * @Spyro Screencap? Pacmansonic138 18:00, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Didn't think to take it, sadly. We all  have our own   styles we   won't change  18:04, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * K, and I remember there was this blog were Mew revealed her age, but I don't remember which one. Pacmansonic138 18:05, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I can vouch for Spyro. I've seen Mewkat mention her being underaged on the chat, and a user say something along the lines of "you're underaged AND you're a chat mod?? Wow, congrats on fighting the system!" I won't name the user that I quoted that from. A years ban should definitely be implemented after this demotion request is closed. 02:26, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * A block should be implemented now if this is true, not only is it against wikia policy, but the law. Whether this block would null any objection to the demotion or not is up to the community.  Myself  123  14:11, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I haven't seen most of the behaviors mentioned (all I know for sure is her tendency is be silent for long periods of time while on the chat, which in turn make me wonder if she's really watching or just not bothering to glance at the Chat tab once in a while), so I'm afraid I'm gonna have to remain neutral. As for her being underage... This is the first I've heard of it, but if some of you are indeed telling the truth then, as per Wikia's rules, I'm also afraid to say that a year's ban will need to be issued as well. I'm sorry Mew, but should that pass then please keep in mind that we're only doing our jobs as Administrators... Lloyd the Cat  "I hog that hedgehate!"  02:38, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Important. Can we establish immediately whether Mew is actually underage? If so, this isn't a matter for this discussion page. She would be in violation of Wikia's Terms of Use, which complies with various international laws about child protection, and she must be blocked until she turns 13. -- Supermorff (talk) 14:21, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * User Blog: Mewkat14/Best Anti/Hero Compatition! LAWLZ, in a comment, Mew more or less confirms it.  Myself  123  15:52, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just when you wished there was a neutral button. --FreeMilkShakesHere! 16:06, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * @Disco It does matter if she is underage, as it is against the rules.
 * @Myself So that was the blog that I was looking for, I could of sworn it was one of 'Sonic's' or Chormia's Blogs, anyways, we block her now? Pacmansonic138 18:12, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * "Tut-tut PKMN, I'm no san I'm a chan I'm no teen. I'm two years younger than you,sir." ~Mewkat14 to me. She basically just said she's 12. Tyler the Hedgehog  "The ultimate son of a gun Charmcaster!"  19:08, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm about to have my birthday. So my ban should last until my b-day. And I'd like to say,I'm Sorry I decieved you all. And I'm sorry I said they were ignorant. And I should've cared when CC broke the rule. I really regret that stuff I did. And hope you guys still trust. And I'll accept the demotion,I don't really deserve Mod after this stuff I did. ~♥Snegg♥  Nicolewhite.PNG
 * Her birthday is on July 30th. We all  have our own   styles we   won't change  19:42, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * If that is indeed her Birthday, then I shall her until then.  Myself  123  19:47, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * It is, she said it herself. We all  have our own   styles we   won't change  19:58, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Does this mean she gets demoted immediately? Or are we going to let this discussion run through for a week? -- 23:29, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I say we close this now, but this demotion I believe is only for Demoting her from Chat Mod powers, since Spyro never said anything about her Rollback powers. Pacmansonic138 01:32, July 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * True, but she is banned. Should her rollback be removed? -- 01:34, July 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure, since she never abused her Rollback, only Chat Mod, kinda like with Metal. Pacmansonic138 01:35, July 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * The block ain't that long, so I don't think she should lose rollback powers. We all  have our own   styles we   won't change  01:37, July 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * I do agree with DiscoDuck's sentiment that mistakes happen. I know I've made more than a few of my own&mdash;glaring ones. And while I have not gotten to know her as well as most of you, from what I've seen, she seems nice. However, her being underage is a matter of concern. I direct you to the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act, the COPPA that I have mentioned. Mew, being twelve years old, is in violation of this law. Us knowing that she is underage is in violation of this law, as that is personal information. As I do not see a privacy policy mentioned, Mew would require the consent of a parent or legal guardian (Knuckles is not a legal guardian) prior to becoming active on this wiki. This is to protect children from online predators and solicitors. Until Mew is thirteen years old, she cannot release any personal information (that includes real name, age, birth date, home state, city, etc) without informed consent. With this wiki allowing Mew to continue her responsibilities as a chat mod here, they are in violation of COPPA. Therefore, to protect Mew and the SNN's best interest, Mew should be removed as chat mod and blocked until she is thirteen years of age. This is for Mew's safety in mind. Please do take this into consideration.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 03:49, July 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Mewkat shouldn't be a rollback either, though, guys. She is in violation of COPPA and should be demoted from both rights ASAP. -- 02:50, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * I read the blog and I'm finding it funny that she got away with announcing her age and not being blocked. --Rainbowroad6w, the researcher. ( Talk )( Recent finds and updates. ) 21:52, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Conclusion
Yes - I'm sorry Mew, but while the voting was not quite unanimous, it's clearly sufficient enough for me to say that a community consensus has been reached and as a result you will have your Chat Mod rights revoked from you. This discussion will be removed shortly. Lloyd the Cat "I hog that hedgehate!"  03:36, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

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