Forum:Character Tournament Week 34

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Sir Shadow, the Ultimate Living Knight: Shadow must win! he can't lozz or tie, he must win!

Don't try and beat me, because you will always lozz. I am the Ultimate Living Knight!

I agree with Syber the Hedgehog. If it's not gonna end in a tie I fear for the next World War breaking out! And congrats! You just gained 1 person who likes the idea of making it a tie ^_^
 * In my opinion, if we were to make it a tie despite the votes showing otherwise, a lot of people who voted woulod feel cheated to know that their votes counted for nothing.  Myself 123  19:47, March 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * @Myself123: i suppose youre right, but i still want it to be a tie. but if i must choose, then i pick shadow. why: simply because i like his distant nature and semi-dark attitude.--Syber--
 * @Myself123: i suppose youre right, but i still want it to be a tie. but if i must choose, then i pick shadow. why: simply because i like his distant nature and semi-dark attitude.--Syber--
 * @Myself123: i suppose youre right, but i still want it to be a tie. but if i must choose, then i pick shadow. why: simply because i like his distant nature and semi-dark attitude.--Syber--

hey, ive got an idea: how about we make it a tie in order to show that neither hedgehog is better than the other. in my opinion, they should both be ultimate life forms, and the strongets two creatures on earth/mobius. (i know that half of the people who read this comment will say " nope, (hedghog) must win at all costs, (hedghog) is inferior and must lose!) lol --Syber the Hedgehog--


 * For it to be tie depends on:
 * a) If it is a tie at the end.
 * b) What the people who organised the tournament decided to do in a tie break.  Myself 123  19:17, March 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * @Syber the Hedgehog
 * That would actually be a brilliant idea :) But I got a feeling nobody gonna listen :(

JerkyJerk123:YEAH, SHADOW IS WINNING ZOMG

Uhm, I don't know about you guys but when I hit either Sonic or Shadow somehow my vote isn't counted or something. It still says "Thank you for your vote". Is there someone out there who could tell me what's up with that please, please, pretty please? I wanna be able to support our hedgies!!!!

Although I wanted Scourge to win this thing all, I voted for Sonic.Scourge333 18:00, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Why are you guys talking about hacking and time periods when there is a match going on?! Anyways,vote for Sonic! THEnobody

I have three things to say: 1. Igive my vote to Shadow and YES! he's in the lead! 2. people when sonic went ahead by 50 in 10 mins: THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LIKE SONIC IN THE WORLD WHHO COME ON HERE!!! IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE FOR 50 PEOPLE TO VOTE MORE THAN SHADOW AT THE SAME RELATIVE TIME PERIOD!!! there is a lag from when people vote to when it gets on the screen too, so deal with it. 3. I still vote for Shadow. -NightShade

EXACTLY THE POINT!

So you mean all people told their friends to vote at the same min, that doesn't seem right.

There's no hacker, people have friends to tell.

To Jakethehedgehog: That many votes... in 10 minutes? I mean, seriously? Why now?

Wha- hacker? Even though I want Shadow to win, I don't want it to be by a hacker. I want him to win by the sheer LOYALTY OF HIS FANS!

And now Sonic take the lead by 50 in less than 10m how is this possible.

I'm not sure whats going on here maybe someone hacked the system or something(no way the SNN has 2000+ votes). Honestly don't you guys find it odd, I mean Sonic was leading the poll for most of the week by 60+, then yasterday Shadow suddenly took the lead. Today when I woke up Sonic was leading by 20, this is how it suppose to be, then in less than 2 hours Shadow took the lead by 10+. Isn't this odd what do you guys think about it.

@The above comment

There has to be a hacker. I think there might be two in fact. One wants Sonic to win, the other want Shadow. Or maybe this is all just a glitch. Maybe one person voted Sonic/Shadow and the vote was accidently increased by 40 or something, I don't know. I hope it's just a glitch, because I don't want the whole tournament to be ruined by a bunch of cheats. Edit: I suppose even there wasn't a hacker, Sonic would still be winning, but I mean it's kinda strange how this match was going like all the other matches with a 1 or 2 votes for each character coming in every few minutes, but for the past couple of days, both characters have been getting sudden bursts of votes (usually around 40) in a matter of minutes. Like the above stated, how did Sonic get 50 votes in 10 mins? I do want Sonic to win but this crazy.

SHADOW! PLEASE WIN! SHOW SONIC THE TRUE POWER OF THE ULTIMATE LIFEFORM! MUAHAHA!

Something is fishy here Sonic should be ahead by at the very least 100. I'm not sure how can Shadow catch up to Sonic so suddenly.

Sonic's in the lead again! WOOHOO!!!!! GO SONIC!!!!!!!!!! But he's only ahead by nineteen... he needs your help voters! Vote for Sonic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEnobody

^Why does he need help when hes winning

^so that shadow won't pass him again (different person)

No matter the turn out... THIS IS INTENSE!!!

Oh man. It's a hard choice in a way and an easy one in another. I like Sonic and Shadow both for similar reasons. They're both cool for similar reasons and then cool for someone individual reasons. I don't really like how either are turning out over the past few years (as characters) but I guess I don't HATE it. It's just not as cool. But either way they seemed tied to me in that sense. One is playful and the other isn't. That's pretty much their only REAL difference. They're the same otherwise.

But I'm gonna vote for Sonic because he's the main character. He's automatically the legend of the franchise. He's the reason Shadow exists, in both real life and in the storyline (For those who know what I'm referring to).

Um, does anyone else notice that most "Vote Shadow" supporters have a threat or some similar undertone if you choose not to... especially that guy who says Shadow kills baby animals, I mean...

ThE DaRk FoRcEs ArE RiSiNg AhAhAhAhAhA!

All I can say is that it's going to be a sad thing if Shadow overcomes Sonic. Sonic is the main character of the series; Strong, brave, true to what he feels is right. His background was portrayed in so many different ways. Sonic lost his parents, maybe never knew his parents were, (etc.), inyet, he has always been able to keep his spirits up. Yes, I realize oh Shadow is awesome because he uses guns and drives. Big whoop. People today can do the exact same thing. Also yeah sure Shadow has such a touching back story, but the only time he really cared was in Sonic Adventure 2. In Shadow the Hedgehog, once he learned what his past was, he basically just forgets about it. So he was emotional, then now he doesn't seem to give a crap... Am I the only one who's a bit offended by that? I use to be a huge Shadow fan until they did that to him. He's just lost all that charm that I really admired him for in the beginning. He doesn't really serve any purpose within the series anymore. His past and backstory was what made him such a likable character, but he doesn't have that anymore. Now he's just a badass who apparently works for the people who destroyed his home, the ARK. That. Does. Not. Make. The. Least. Bit. Of. Sense. lol.

Woo hoo! GO SHADOW!!!!!!!!!! 99.179.141.59 20:02, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Wait,Shadow is actually winning?!No way!NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! THEnobody

OMG GUYS. OMGGG. VOTE FOR SHADOWWW. LOL. Dats what you guys do. lolololcakes. C:

Sonic is win. (: *votes for the blue hero*

Sir Shadow, the Ultimate Living Knight: keep voting for shadow! only 40 more votes!

Don't try and beat me, because you will always lozz. I am the Ultimate Living Knight!

There are more comment for Shadow than Sonic because he(Shadow) is losing, Sonic fans don't even need to comment.

As a reply to the "Personally, my vote goes to Shadow..." comment; I like Sonic for the very same reason you like Shadow, and I dislike Shadow for the very reason you dislike Sonic. So I double disagree xD. I find Shadow a basic angst character in the series like every other rival and he seems overpowered, never loses anything (Besides his past). As for Shadow's back story, it's meh compared to the many different interpretations of Sonic's back story (Sonic has lost more than Shadow in his past, in the comics). Weather they're cannon or not doesn't make a difference seeing as the cannon series has yet to provide a real backstory for Sonic, we can only assume it's true for now. I just find Sonic's character more trademark than Shadow's, where as Shadow-like characters exist in many other series.

Personally, my vote goes to Shadow. If you like Sonic better, good for you, but I just don't agree with you on that front. It mainly has to do with characterization. Sonic is, for the most part, just your basic clean-cut, saves-the-day, no-flaws-whatsoever kind of hero. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but Shadow has a lot more personal conflict, an interesting backstory that's very relevant to his actions, and a much less predictable nature. Granted, he has had his missteps *cough* Shadow the Hedgehog *cough*, but that doesn't mean Sonic hasn't as well *cough* werehog stages *cough*. Yes, I recognize that Sonic is Sega's mascot, and the star of this series, but I just find Shadow to be a more interesting and fleshed-out character.

If Shadow wins this will be real proof that the series is going down hill. If somebody other than Sonic, Tails, or Knuckles were to win this there is SERIOUSLY something wrong.

Stupid Shadow fans,why are there more of them than Sonic fans?! P.S.:I know this is very offensive,since most of the comments are about the battle,not the voters.Sorry if you are now very depressed and/or angry because of this comment. P.P.S.:Try to guess my age!P.P.P.S.:On the P.S.,I wasn't being sarcastic. THEnobody

Sir Shadow, the Ultimate Living Knight: this stinks, sonic is going to will whis oun tornament. i think shadow should be decladed the winner, it just not right for some one to win there oun tornament, because then the tornament would be for nothin'.

Don't try and beat me, because you will always lozz. I am the Ultimate Living Knight!

Sir Shadow, the Ultimate Living Knight: actualy, you CAN vote for shadow more than once a day, onece this week i had voted for him 10 times and succeded! Go, Go Shadow!!

Don't try and beat me, because you will always lozz. I am the Ultimate Living Knight!
 * No, you can't. You click the radio button and press "vote" but the votes won't increase, you can, however, change who you voted for as long as the poll is still active.  Myself 123  01:47, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

GO SHADOW!!!!!!!! This is what Sonic gets for messings with Tails!

What how did the votes get this high for da emo I swear someone is repeating there votes. True fighters like Sonic use there own abilities organic over inorganic.

It is not possible for anyone to repeat their votes. And Shadow is not emo. Even if he was, is it really worth it to call him such? No, it isn't.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 19:46, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Sonic can't win!!! As other people have said, how boring would it be for Sonic to win his own series' character tournament?

GAH!! Why are shadows votes dropping? That shouldnt be hapening!!

Sonic shouldnt win just because he's the star of the comics and games, there should be anew monarch and his name will be... SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG!!!

I chose Shadow because he's my 2nd favorite while Sonic is 3rd.

I'm Shadow the Hedgehog, and now...I am the most powerful hedgehog in the world. The power of these emeralds makes me invincible. I am the ultimate hedgehog! This is WHO I AM!

Sir Shadow, the Ultimate Knight: If it wheren't for Shadow, Sonic would not be alive. He could had helped kill Sonic for all he cares. AND DON'T STEAL MY PICS!

Don't try and beat me, because you will always lozz. I am the Ultimate Living Knight!

you know why Shadow get in my nerve:

1- He died and then came back to life(which ruined SA2 ending).

2- He was evil then turn good.

3- Maria Maria Maria.

4- Sometimes act like an ass(Sonic Free Riders) and some other times he is friendly(Sonic Colors DS), choose one.

5- His fan seems to hate all the charecters who can rivel or not in his side.

6- His fans also can't believe that Sonic can use Chaos Powers too.

Yes face it Shadow fans Sonic beat Shadow three times in a row in Sonic Chronicles.

SHADOW FTW!!!!

Shadow should win in a true all out battle, Shadow has more feats in his base mode than Sonic. Shadow also has guns, Sonic will be overwhelmed by Shadow's versitility. Everything is equal, until you bring out better chaos control manipulation feats, augmented chaos boosts, the abilty to teleport without an emerald, and guns and weapons. I don't see how Sonic is winning without PIS. Sonic is just a one shoe size fits all, while Shadow is so much more. Sonic has speed and boost but he can use them like chaos shadow can. Chaos power wise, Shadow should stun Sonic with roaming chaos. Or hit him with a full on Chaos Blast which destroys everything. Taking off his inhibitors is a last resort and if he did, if he hits Sonic with a full burst of Chaos energy do you honestly believe he could keep going and he's not outrunning Shadow in Chaos release mode. Sorry, Shadow just has to many options to put the blue hedgehog down.

Yes! Shadow caucht up to Sonic! keep voting for shadow! ALL HAIL SHADOW, THE ULTIMATE LIFEFORM!

Don't try and beat me, because you will always lozz. I am the Ultimate Living Knight! 

SHADOW JUST NEEDS FOUR MORE VOTES!! SONIC FATALITY!! D8

How did Shadow get all these votes in such a short time, I mean he couldn't catch up to Sonic in five days why now and so suddenly. It's just odd!

Lets compare the fighters abilities through speed, skill, strength, and special abilities. Speed-Draw. Even though some games will claim Sonic is faster, (Sonic Rivals 1+2) and some claim Shadow is faster (Sonic Battle) they are both the same speed even if Shadow is not wearing his hover shoes. Skill-Sonic. Many Sonic fans think that since Shadow is over 50 years old, he must have more fighting experiance. However, Shadow spent 50 of those years in suspended animation. If that's factored in, Shadow has been fighting for a little over a year in the games, and two or three in the Archie Comics. Sonic, on the other hand, has been fighting the Eggman Empire since childhood, giving him extra time on the battle field that puts Shadow at a disadvantage. Although, it's not a big disadvantage, he's Shadow. He adapts quickly. Strength-Shadow. Not by much, but Shadow The Hedgehog really emphisised the strength of The Ultimate Life Form. Special Abilities-Draw. They can both use Chaos Control. They both have a Sonic Wind/Chaos Spear. They both can use Boost. They both destroy stuff easier when they get angry with Dark Sonic/Chaos Blast. The only thing that gives one hedgehog an edge over the other would be that Sonic can use the power of different objects to achive alternate forms, while Shadow was created only using the Chaos Emeralds. This is why Sonic has so many different Super Forms while Shadow only has one. But this isn't about Super Forms, this is pure Sonic against Shadow. So, special abilities has a draw. Result-Let's face it. These characters are equal in almost all areas of fighting. Any minor differences between the two are countered by somthing that gives the other the equal edge. In fact, that's what these two were designed to be...equal! But which one would win? What would be the deciding factor? Personality. Yes, personality can determine the way a person fights, so here, the way they think determines who wins. It is in niether of their nature's to hold back, so someone has to be knocked out, no surrenders. Shadow has more of a killer instinct than Sonic does, making him quiet and concentrated (for the most part) during a fight. Sonic, on the other hand, sez stuff. He always tries to break his enemy phycologically with taunts. A smart tactic, even though he's fighting robots 95 percent of the time and it makes him look like a cocky jerk. Both have a short temper, but with Sonic keeping up the mid-fight banter, Shadow is going to get very angry, very quickly. Since the two are matched blow for blow, it's inevitable that Shadow will try and use Chaos Powers to gain the upper hand. Sonic can dodge these easily, but why doesn't he use Chaos Powers of his own? Well, without a Chaos Emerald nearby, using Chaos Powers can get really exausting after you use too much. Sonic is exteremely cautious about this, avoiding Shadow's Chaos Attacks and letting him wear himself out. Wheather it be alot of Chaos Spears, Boosts, or even taking off the Inhibitor Rings for a giant Chaos Blast, Shadow's energy will deacrease slowly with each attack. Sonic paces himself, while Shadow's anger at Sonic's taunts causes him to use more power as a come-back. It soon becomes a contest of who can outlast the other. Sonic, who is running, avoiding, and taunting. Or Shadow, who is running and tapping into the Chaos Force more and more. This leads to the longest fight of Shadow using more and more power, and Sonic dodgeing more and more frantically. But if there's one thing the Sonic series has taught us, a hedgehog can run alot longer than a hedgehog can use chaos powers. After Shadow tires, (Which could take days for all we know) Sonic quickly attacks him with all the strength he has left and wins the match. Result- The battle could have gone either way, but every battle between these two leans toward what they are fighting for. Think back to Sonic Adventure 2. Sonic won because he was fighting for the lives of everyone on earth, while Shadow was only fighting for revenge. So Sonic wins. In Sonic Heroes, Sonic just seems to fight Shadow for fun, while Shadow just seems to want to find out about his memories. So it's just a draw. The possible endings in Shadow The Hedgehog, Sonic was fighting for G.U.N., while Shadow was fighting for his very identity. So Shadow wins. In this, the way of thinking is the deciding factor. But Shadow adapts quickly. A rematch between these two would be interesting. But until the next Character Tournemant-My vote goes to Sonic.

Sir Shadow, The Ultimate Living Knight: All that work WILL pay off. Shadow WILL win, Shadow will ALWAYS be the ULTIMATE LIFEFORM. ALL HAIL SHADOW!!!!!
 * It would be a dark dark day for series if that happens.  Myself 123  21:25, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

ALL HAIL SHADOW!!! Now... where's that D*** 4th Chaos Emerald?

Who didn't see this coming, Shadow can't beat Sonic even with Chaos Powers, I mean if Sonic used those powers(which he could use but choose not to) Shadow wouldn't have a chance.But Shadow deserve the second spot.

Seriously, who cares if Sonic is the main character? You might think he's cooler or smarter or more powerful than Shadow (for whatever reason) but the fact that he's the main character shouldn't change or inspire your opinion of him in any way.

I like Shadow better because I think he's more awesome than Sonic, cooler and more interesting. He's the only character whose background we entirely understand. Hasn't anybody noticed that? Shadow's the only character who actually has origins or a past. For this reason I can understand him more and I just like him better. All Hail Shadow. Jackleton, Baron of the Binoculars. 18:13, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

ALL HAIL SHADOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SONICMUST BE DEFEATED!!!!!!!!!!!!! -james50

82.152.149.248 17:36, March 9, 2011 (UTC): Personally, I think that Shadow would actually win (I am a fangirl, but this is not the reason). Also, Sonic just hogs the spotlight. He is an overrated canon-sue. The two best Sonic games I have ever played both had Shadow in them: Sonic Heroes and Shadow's own game. Shadow would just Chaos Blast Sonic right out of the arena! And Shadow has a background and a history and everything that makes a good character. He has a decent personality! Sonic is just the oh-aren't-I-great-I'm-a-hero type of guy and he's just a FLIPPING CARDBOARD CHARACTER! HE HAS NO BACKGROUND OR ANYTHING! HE JUST ARRIVED IN 1991 AS A HERO! Nothing even tells you why he was like that...so SHADOW FTW!

response: THANK U!!!!!! tho u have 2 admit sonic is modest and isnt exactly 2 boastful. but still they have absolutely no background info except that in the mobius comics and some uber old tv shows not many ppl even remember he has 2 sibilings a mother and an uncle. nothing else on his childhood. on the other hand w/ shadow we know how he was born (or created in his case) y he was created his "family" and y he is the way he is. i personally would LOVE 2 have shadow as my ally...a friend even. he is smart he is strong and-if i or any1 else gets on his good side-he is very protective of who he cares about and defends them w/ his life if he has 2. im not sonic isnt likewise but in any case yea i totally agree w/ u. ALL HAIL SHADOW!!! show them who the real faker is!

SHADOW FTW!!! In power, Shadow would win, as he can do everything Sonic can AND MORE! By popularity... It's a tie I guess.... this battle is probably going by popularity so Sonic has a chance as he is the main character but.... SHADOW PLZ WIN! YOUR BIGGGEST FAN IS ROOTING FOR YOU RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF THE COMPUTER!!! WIIIIIN!

Finally Shadow will lose. Sonic is faster said by the video game world record book going at 765 mph. Shadow will lose as he should've to Da Knux Man but no fans will save him now. Emos can't fight so even tails could beat Shadow. Sonic's like Goku and if by some small percent that Shadow were to knock him down he'd get back up and destroy him. Steal dat emerald and Shadow's just gonna stand there weaker than Cream. Ah Sonic will take down that faker even though he should've lost in the first round. It would've been nice to see Da Knux Man vs Sonic power vs strenght but no It's Emo Faker vs Sonic.

response: ok 1st of all shadow is not emo and 2nd shadow can outrun sonic if he takes off his wristbands-incubator rings or watever theyre called...likewise w/ his strength. he is stronger faster and smarter than sonic tails and knuckles combined (ok maybe not tails but u get my logic). shadow could never lose 2 knuckles even if shadow were 2 be weaker than him (which he isnt). knuckles is 2 impulsive and loses his temper easily thus making him unable 2 focus properly. shadow is more level-headed and calculative than knuckles will ever be. even popularity-wise (since thats all this f***in thing is about even tho it was originally based on who we think is stronger and all that crap -.-) shadow is 100x more popular than knuckles. ~ Bryana

Response to Bryana: Shadow only beat Knuckles out of popularity and only that. Shadow is emo and in story mode was created first but in the world we live in now Shadow is a faker and emo. Shadow also has angier issue "death to all who oppose me. Yugi Naka said that he made Knuckles calmer and show no anger in the previous games just irretation if you check the definitions you'll see the difference. Shadow is to dependent on Chaos emeralds where Sonic and Knuckles have there own skills. Plus andriod suck organic matter rules over all. I don't think whos stronger I know I used a program of simulation and Knuckles seemed to have more wins. Check the video game world record book 2008 or 2009 Sonic is the fastest said by Naka. Shadow is overphased and doesn't have half the stuff you say just chaos spamming really. Sonic and Knuckles have hyper and super forms as seen in Knuckles in Sonic the Hedghog 3. There stats prove in the olympics, Shadow doesn't actually have his own speed doesn't have super strenght and super intelligence and can't fly just hover, and I'm sure the creators of Sonic would disagree that a faker is better than the originals.

1. by supersonic13- ALL HAIL SHADOW THE ULTIMATE LIFEFORM "CHAOS BLAST".

Sonic winning his own f****** series, boring. Shadow is a better and much more interesting character. Sonic is just a god mod cannon hero sue who wins all the time because he's the hero and he's just Sonic. Bland, one demensional, to annoying, to predictible, and always gets his way. Shadow even for all his popularity has flaws unlike Sonic and he's very easy to relate to.

Sonic like Mario is just a thing, not a character and certainly not a person. Seriously, Sonic can do anything, he can be anything, he's the one shoe size fits all concept and yet Shadow is so much more and has more or less better characterization all the while retaining almost all of Sonic's powers and skills. But meh, if Sonic will win this thing, it's due to him being the one who started this series and he's the symbol of Sega and one of the gaming legends, but he sucks as a character and has no flaws or traits that are bigger than Pac Man. Shadow deserves to win truly. He's just that dude who has his ups and downs but is still as strong as ever, he's lost it all, and he's gained some of it back in the form of new friends and a heroic role, he's strong, brave, loyal, sympathetic, smart, wise and very manly. He (despite his dark and serious personality) has a deep and big heart, and has always stuck to his guns and looked out people and himself for the sake of his own convictions. He;s a bigger hero than Sonic because he knows and acts on common sense and reality instead of idealism and shallow reasoning like Sonic. If he needs to kill someone for peace, he'll do it. If theres a mission that requires his talent, he will fufill it without hestiation. He is a soilder for the world. But he's good to his friends and is straight up honest and blunt to a tee. But that is what makes him human in a sense.

No wonder he's Sonic's rival, he represents all of Sonic's opposites and moral compromises yet shares the same idomitable will and strength Sonic has to keep them true to himself and his own philosophy. That is why he's my favorite character and he's the better character IMO. ~Joeman12

Taggev's response to comment above: I agree!.

Go Shadow, really people, who deserves it more a spotlight hogger or a cooler version of him except less famous. Give a shadow a chance ~Jake

altho sonic and shadow r more or less even but-truthfully im not saying this bec im a shadow fangirl-shadow could beat sonic hands down. many of their previous fights shadow hasnt even showed his true potential and their battles were always interrupted. shadow can enduse chaos control can wield guns has excellent hand-to-hand combat skills has a pretty high IQ (not even close to that of eggman's or tails' but still very intelligent nonetheless) and his power and speed is doubled when he takes off his rings. but obviously sonic is gonna win bec hes popular. -.- but anyway...go shadow go! ALL HAIL SHADOW!!! ~ Bryana

i think shadow is stupid he has no emotion hates every thing and is just boring he should have stayed dead at the end of sa2 sonic is the main hero of the series and people who dont vote for him arnt true sonic fans

response: ouch...some1s being hurtful... shadow isnt stupid...he does have emotions he just refuses 2 show them bec (im guessing) he believes it shows weakness...he does not hate everything he is just distrusting (especially of humans 4 wat they did 2 maria)...and he isnt boring-ok so hes a bit dull at times so wat? he has kicked more @$$ than any other character in the sonic series. he destroyed biolizard...he killed his "father" black doom and defeated the black arms...defeated the demon mephiles TWICE...and defeated the god solaris-all of which he did so SINGLE-HANDEDLY (except the black arms and solaris portions...he had some help w/ those 2). he could take out a whole army of GUN soldiers if he wanted 2. in the alternate realm of camelot shadow is represented as sir lancelot-the best of the best out of all the knights of the round table aside from king arthur himself (which apparently is sonic but still). wat has sonic done? soiled eggmans plans time and time again (which isnt really hard)...defeated "king arthur" (spoiler alert: he was only an illusion merlina's grandfather the famed merlin conjured up) and merlina (aka the dark queen)...defeated ix the psychotic echidna...defeated dark gaia...and a god-solaris. the only thing he did solo was-o thats rite...none of them! he had some form of help 4 each and every battle he has been in. and 4 that "not true sonic fans" bulls***...i dont even know wat 2 say 2 that -.-" ~ Bryana

If anything you Shadow fans are making your reputation worse by being so hateful towards every character he gets paired with. Not all of the fans of Shadow are like that, this message is just for those of you who ARE hateful.

response: the reason y some of us shadow fans r hateful is bec others r being hateful toward shadow. me personally as a shadow fangirl i think all this hateful bulls*** is a bunch of stupidity. ITS A GAME PPL!! CALM DOWN!! ~ Bryana

I love them both but, Sonic's my main man from childhood! I can understand those who vote for Shadow though, they likely played SA2 first. I've gotta say though, if anyones overrated it's Shadow. Sonic will likely win, and he deserves it. People need to be reminded just who's in charge of this series! ;)

Final Battle Hedgehog vs Hedgehog Destruction vs Speed Lancelot vs King Arthur Guns vs A ananoying Sword Ultimate Lifeform vs A hedgehog not good enough to be his fake CMON Shadow Prove thoose who voted sonic wrong Overthrow the Overrated Destroy Sonic like Shadow Did Mephiles and the Black Arms 20 Years of that Blue Blur now its time for a change Shadow has been said to be a tagalong that SEGA can ditch but he has beaten the best and now to defeat SEGA himself Sonic come on All Hail SHADOW!!!

Sonic is just a blue guy that can run fast. But he's the main character, so he's going to win! THAT IS JUST STUPID! Shadow, however, is:

Able to do all those things with Chaos Powers,

Also really fast,

Probably a lot cleverer than Sonic (seriously, when Sonic speaks, he sounds like a delinquent)

NOT Sonic's fake. Actually, on Mobius, Shadow was created by Professor Gerald 50 YEARS before Sonic was even born. So Shadow obviously wasn't intended to be a fake. SHADOW RULES!!!

response: its likewise in the video games. i hate 2 be mean but those that say shadow is sonic's fake or in some cases "brother" U R IDIOTS! as the guy above said...shadow was created 50 years before sonic was even born-even thought of even! pay attention 2 the storyline ppl. i know its fun 2 think they r brothers bec they look somewat alike and have more or less the same abilities lets not get 2 carried away. ~ Bryana

JerkyJerk123's comment to the above:actually Sonic speaks like a delinquent because he actually is smarter, he's proven it countless times Taggev 's response to above: He speaks like a delinquent BECAUSE he's smarter? How does that work?

response: sure sonic is smart im not disagreeing but he isnt smarter. he may be smarter than big and knuckles but compared 2 the other characters he is a majority of the time owned when it comes 2 smarts.

JerkyJerk123:

I think all of us knew since the beginning of this tournament this would end like this: Sonic VS 'someone else'. Now it's obvious Sonic's gonna win, although Shadow would beat him, so I vote for Shadow.

C'mon Shadow! You've got this. Sonic's not even good enough to be your fake. E-113!  Code name:   Xi  03:07, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Shadow. Sonic the Hedgehog winning the Sonic the Hedgehog character tournament? That's like the most boring thing. People who don't even know Sonic would guess that Sonic would win the Sonic character tournament. That's soooo boring. Plus, Shadow is like a copy of Sonic with his powers multiplied by 10,000! Who wouldn't vote for Shadow? 99.179.141.59 00:03, March 8, 2011 (UTC) The votes are drawing now!!! Come on Shadow! Shadow to win!! Shadow can do everything Sonic can do and more!! GO SHADOW GO SHADOW!! ALL HAIL SHADOW!!!(one of the songs on Shadow the Hedgehog the game.) SHADOW RULES!!!:D>>Shadowdoom13 From the time it took me to read it and to vote, the numbers had doubled. 78.86.99.188 18:59, March 7, 2011 (UTC) Guest After all of our battles and all of our victories, it’s all come down to this…Now, it’s time to find out who the real “faker” is!

"S.O.N.I.C. GO! Go, go, go, go, go, let's go! Knuckleschaotix 19:53, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

This is so immensely close to call...they're both awesome at times, they're both annoying at times, they're both immensely fast, THEY CAN BOTH USE CHAOS POWERS (Sonic just chooses not to!), they both have people to fight for (Shadow has Maria and Sonic has...well, just about everyone else), they both have fanboys and fangirls to spam the vote for them...the list of comparisons goes on. They can match each other pretty much blow-for-blow, hence why there's never been a clear winner in any of their past confrontations. I know, deep down, that everyone's going to vote Sonic just because a.) he's the main character, b.) everyone hates Shadow for some reason. So Sonic will win. But ultimately, Shadow is the Ultimate Lifeform, and for that reason my vote belongs to him. Sorry. MysteryTheHedgehog 16:12, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

Here is my last opinion, For the final battle: All I have to say is, Sonic! RaymanX11: They are both good, but always been a Sonic fan and i alredy known the winner :3 Sonic. I mean, come on! Sonic pretty much started this whole series off, and if it wasn't for Sonic Adventure 2, Shadow wouldn't even be here. Then again, Shadow has what, 15 million fangirls that will vote for him? Regardless, I think Sonic should win. Shadow is overrated. I'll have to give myself a 11:25, March 7, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79 SHADOW!!!55 Skcor Ezalb 12:39, March 7, 2011 (UTC) Go on Sonic you deserve it. Sonicdude9025 Sez: Battle 1: Shadow. He's just as fast, ju

st as smart (if not smarter,) and he has those Chaos Powers on his side. Even Sonic can't do that. I mean, come on. Shadow can do everything Sonic can do, and more, plus he's more experienced. It won't be long before Shadow knocks Sonic out with a Chaos Blast. GO ULTIMATE LIFEFORM! My vote for this week: Sonic the Hedgehog. Don't get me wrong. I like Shadow, but I grew up playing Sonic's classics on the Sega Genesis. Sonic's come a long way, and he's not going to let that fake hedgehog overshadow him. (no pun intended.) FDMG.  MilesPrower72; GO SONIC THE HEDGEHOG i believe in you, send that faker packing. I'm gonna go with shadow, he can do what sonic can and even more Ediskrad327 14:26, March 7, 2011 (UTC) My vote is obvious GO GO SONIC! GO GO SONIC! My last vote will be 1 Shadow- he will use 7 chaos emerald turn into a powerful Super Shadow. My vote will be COME SHADOW!! My vote 1 Shadow- he can take Sonic down with chaos blast. Sonic-> Super Sonic-> Hyper Sonic + Darkspine Sonic + Excalibur Sonic Shadow-> Super Shadow... Sonic = Instant win In the end, Shadow just can't keep up, he's just TOO SLOW!!!  MilesPrower72  SERIOUSLY, i thought sonic would be demolishing shadow, get it together sonic youre the guy who started it all, now way in hell some fakehog is making a fool out of the fastest thing alive

Go sonic because all shadow does is shoot guns and be a jerk

Screw Sonic. He's awesome and all, but Shadow only has one game, and in my OPINION, that single game outmatches half of all other games that even refer to Sonic The Hedgehog. Plus, 1) bio-androids are cool, 2) he's got real super-powers, and 3) Shadow The Hedgehog wasn't a bad game. It was just harder than normal Sonic games, and n00bs worldwide couldn't take the heat.

So yeah, I'm rooting for Shadow. But remember this: when you Sonic fans make Sonic win, will his victory of dumb luck make any impact on the rest of the universe?

Didn't think so.

Ultra Sound 02:59, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Come on, Shadow, just 20 more votes...show us that enduring years of rabid fangirlism was worth it! -StillRiver, March 7,2001

 Mile  sPrower72  Sonic is leading by 30+ votes,no way he's losing now.Lets give a thumbs up to our Tournament Champion.

 Sir Shadow, The Ultimate Living Knight: Shadow VS. sonic. Sonic is in (basicly) every single game in the sonic world, he is always hoging the spotlight, I say his rein of blueness ends here! Out goes Sonic and in comes Shadow!

Shadow's gotta win -- 'Murphyshane - Morph! He's alive! Don't click here '16:46, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

okay who piled all the previous coments again?

189.164.125.222 16:54, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

I like both of them. But i believe shadow is better. hes faster. has a better super form. stronger. and he cant die. remember hes the "ultimate life form." sonic can do chaos control but not chaos blast. and shadow doesn't age. by the way my username is sonicforever1 because it was my PSN and shadowforever1 would be too long for me. thats just my opinion.sonicforever1 a littlebig guy 21:26, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

AN OPINION BY JOSH THE HEDGEHOG

Listen, I don't care what the Shadow fans say, but what was the name of the game that started the entire franchise based on Sonic? Not Shadow the Hedgehog, that's for sure. Actually, if it were called that, and if the game was anything like the actual Shadow the Hedgehog game, NO ONE would buy it. Case in point, I have several snippets from this article that you can find on the link http://www.segabits.com/?p=6876

"...In this day and age, the flaws would be immediately apparent from a single screenshot: it’s a dark game featuring a Sonic character with guns, almost completely divorcing it from all that a Sonic game was known for. Indeed, that was the problem: it was a Sonic game trying to be a Sonic game while also not being one, if that makes any sense.

...This game looks nothing like a Sonic game, from it's environments to it's enemies.

''At first, I was able to even disillusion myself into thinking the game wasn’t bad. As I played more and more though, I began to realize….that this was going to be the first main series Sonic title that I would utterly hate. Looking at the review average this game got compared to past main series titles, it would seem most reviewers would agree."''

Looking at this, I feel that the only true representative of the Sonic series is the blue dude himself, and if all the Shadow fans feel that Shadow has to hog the spotlight in the cruel way that he does, then SEGA should just make games about hedgehogs with guns and scrap Sonic altogether, which I am sure the fanbase would completely KILL them for doing.

Unless the fanbase is pro-Shadow, in which case, WHY CRUEL WORLD?!?!?!??

(note: this does not apply to all Shadow fans, in fact in the comic book he's actually pretty awesome. I personally like the comic book Shadow, just not the game Shadow.)

response: that snippet does not back u up at all...its bais and is a bunch of bulls***! 3 FYIs:

1) 4 u and whoever wrote that article...the game shadow the hedgehog got a pretty good review-the only thing it got low ratings 4 was its graphics and-4 some critics-the confusing and "dark" (imbeciles... -.-) storyline. the whole point of the shadow the hedgehog game was 2 appeal 2 the older audience. me personally as well as SEVERAL others think the shadow game is 1 of the best sonic games SEGA created alongside sonic adventure 2 and a few others.

2) the comic book shadow-from wat ive seen-is the SAME shadow from the games-archie comics just made his mood a bit lighter 4 the sake of the younger audience.

3) the purpose of this championship isnt 2 find out who is the true "representative" of SEGA so idk where u got that stuff from. its just 4 fun so get over it! ~ Bryana

1. What did I say? It was inevitable it would come down to this fight. I vote Sonic, mainly because I can stand him more than Shadow, and in my comic his personality is more fleshed out than anyone elses'. 14:21, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

Sir Shadow, The Ultimate Living Knight: Every time someone votes for sonic, shadow kills a baby animal. Please, help the baby animals by voting for shadow. and if shadow wins, every one who voted for him will get a....
 * You dare steal my signature pic? (Lol) And if every time someone votes for Sonic Shadow will kill a baby animal, than Shadow has automatically been banned from the contest due to illegal hunting. I'll have to give myself a [[File:Promotion image.jpg]] 23:13, March 10, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

Sir Shadow, The Ultimate Living Knight: LOL! it was a joke, Shadow's real target is Sonic and all who are with him! Man, for making a joke ill have to give you a

For those who say Sonic hogs the spotlight, I think you've forgotten what this series is called.  Myself 123  19:29, March 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Don't you mean Shadow, Myself? I've never really heard of an argument with Sonic hogging the spotlight. Besides, he's supposed to. 99.179.141.59 19:49, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, at the top of this comment thread, someone made that very "Sonic hogged the spotlight" argument.
 * Anyway, I think Shadow should win. But somehow, I know he won't.
 * And he is no faker. "[Shadow is] too powerful to be anything but the real thing".-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 11:49, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * the ultimate life form, or the main character of the entire series, with my favorite color being black, i think ill take the lone wolf, or should i say hedgehog, with weapons of mass destruction and power to kill all in his path, yes,i vote shadow Runner VS Shadow 20:02, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * GO! GO!! SONIC!!! GO! GO!! SONIC!!
 * Also if you look at the final battle picture you can see the Tails Doll looking at Chris Thorndyke. Lets hope that the Tails Doll kills Chris
 * Are you serious?! Why do you target Chris with such hatred?! He's such a nice guy... If not a bit too daring for his own good.
 * ... Do you target him because he's human? That the fact he was in Sonic X, he ruined it somehow? News flash, man: Eggman is human, too.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 01:17, March 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Also if you look at the final battle picture you can see the Tails Doll looking at Chris Thorndyke. Lets hope that the Tails Doll kills Chris
 * Are you serious?! Why do you target Chris with such hatred?! He's such a nice guy... If not a bit too daring for his own good.
 * ... Do you target him because he's human? That the fact he was in Sonic X, he ruined it somehow? News flash, man: Eggman is human, too.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 01:17, March 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * ... Do you target him because he's human? That the fact he was in Sonic X, he ruined it somehow? News flash, man: Eggman is human, too.-- A k  a  m  i  a ( Talk )( Want to see what I've been doing? ) 01:17, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

C'mon guys, a few more votes for Shadow -- 'Murphyshane - Morph! He's alive! Don't click here '23:35, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Wow all this hyperactiveness about two hedgehogs with almost THE SAME EXACT POWERS, GET A LIFE PEOPLE Sonic could win or Shadow but none of them are fakers they don't even know each other until Sa2 so it does not matter come on guys i mean i like them both jeez and i am really sure Shadow is not emo get it straight. Possibly Shadow has the better chance of winning unless Sonic uses his choas powers too. -Godwill

I find it ironic how about 15 million people here are going "LOL GUIZE VOTE 4 SHADOW HE JUST RLY AWESHOME!!!!1!111!!!!" and yet Sonic is still winning because on the outside his fanbase is bigger. I'll have to give myself a 11:17, March 12, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

NonoNO!! Fight Sonic!! Win!! And other people, QUIT LOGGIN OUT JUST SO YOU CAN VOTE AGAIN! Seriously, there's no way SNN has 1,800 people here.--Kagi mizu -Seeya 'round 19:47, March 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Honestly, what did you expect from the people on here? The UC's and New Users here are almost as bad as on TSSZ. AdmiralLevi.Signiture_B.gifAdmiralLevi._Salute_B.gif 20:12, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Well if they were REAL fans, they'd partake with honesty and dignity.--Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 20:17, March 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Honesty and Dignity? Here? HAH! --AdmiralLevi.Signiture_B.gifAdmiralLevi._Salute_B.gif 22:18, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

 MilesPrower72  I'm not giving up on sonic EVER come on sonic you can do it i still believe in you.

Final Battle: Sonic the Hedgehog. I personally would have had Silver win the whole thing, but Sonic I say is definitely better then Shadow. He's good to though.

Man of man this is really close, could be even closer then Tails vs. Silver. Go Sonic, Go!

Jkdabomb: 14:46, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know if people can vote multiple times. But 2333 people who voted for this match? Well, maybe we just have to keep it on the fact that because it is the final, more people come to this poll and vote. But still ... BeRzEcKeR 10:04, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Everyone must've known sonic and shadow were gonna be in the finals. Man! look at how close of a battle this is! Shadow is winning by two votes! - anonymous (in that case you don't know me :P)

This battle should be easy for Shadow! In games, he was able to take down foes alone while Sonic had to face them with the use of the Chaos Emeralds! Also, Shadow can do many things that Sonic can't. Shadow can teleport at will, he has an extremely high tolerance to pain, he has a natural killer instinct, and he has superhuman strength. Well, Sonic does too, but that's only when he's a Werehog (hey, THAT would be a really good match! Shadow vs. WereSonic lolz). Oh, and let's not forget that Shadow has his signature weapon: CHAOS CONTROL! Yes, that's right. Shadow can barbecue Sonic with Chaos Spear and Chaos Blast. Sure, they're both really fast, but Sonic being so cocky can make him lose focus and will get himself beaten down. I also forgot that in Shadow the Hedgehog (2005), Shadow was able to defeat Sonic AND Diablon (the Commander). GO SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG!!!