Talk:Shadow the Hedgehog/Archive 2

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Sonicsmansion97 16:22, October 11, 2011 (UTC)Sonicsmansion97

Similarities to Vegeta
If you hadn't noticed, Shadow is almost a direct copy of Vegeta from Dragon Ball Z. The personalities, the love of a human female, the SUPER FORM, the alikeness to the main protagonist but acts different, BECOMING AN ANTI-HERO!!!!! Not to mention the same looks and powers......... Plus Dbz was before SONIC so is it me or is Shadow just an animal version of Vegeta?

Possibly, but he is a different individual with his own set of different characteristics than other characters. You can see it that way, but he will always look like Shadow the hedgehog to me. Even though they always do self-proclaim themselves, the strongest something. "I am the prince of saiyans!" "I am the ultimate life-form!"

Physical
Whoever keeps putting that's he's Physicaly 15, stop it. There's no proof for this at all. In fact, there's proof against it. We know he was only alive a little while before ARK was shut down, and after he was brought back, well, it's only been a few years at most since then. So physicaly, he can't be more than four or five, probably around two or three years old (but chronologicly 50). I don't know if there's a definate canon on time. --TheLairOfRockwhales 06:15, October 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * I again repeat this as no one has figured it out yet. If Sega has officially said this nonsensical statement, fine. Go ahead and add it then, I have no issue. If the wiki is assuming that, no. Read what I said, then show me a source. If you can do that, then I'm fine. --TheLairOfRockwhales 14:56, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Love?
Someone added to the section of "Friends/Allies", a section that reads "Love", and only listed Amy Rose. There is no canonical proof of this statement, and you can't just say "(many agreed with this statement)". Your giving people too much of high hopes, and it was edited out.

They should put in Maria as potential love interest!

^yeah but she's dead....

Shadow shall love no one but himself and his fangirls! XD lol

Why?
Why do people think is cute? He would kill you. WHY?!

BlazeChance1 23:50, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

lolkitten99: It's just his crazy fangirls that think that. No harm done. Right. Many fangirls think that he's hot.

^yeah :P

I think Shadow's cute! (although you're probably right about him killing people, it's a good thing he isn't real).

Eh, I think the userbox picture is too big. Mind to find one that ain't too big? Crystal the Raccoon "The controller of ice!"  15:25, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Here's a thought.
What if Shadow was a DLC character in a Mortal Kombat game? Think about it! He couldn't be Babalitized, has unlimited power, and could have a TON of fatalities! One of them could be this: He has a big, flaming red aura around him, like when he does Chaos Blast, and says "DEATH TO ALL WHO OPPOSE ME!!!". He then lunges at his opponent, shoving his hand into the rib cage, right where the heart is located, and rips it out, tosses it into the air, rips the guy/girl's head off, and tears the body in half. He then catches the heart, now holding both the guy/girl's head and heart. He crushes both in his hands, and walks away saying this: "Hmph. I don't have time for this." He could also start with this: "I will show no mercy!!" and beats the guy/girl down, and blows his opponents head up using a loaded gun. He then rips out the heart of his foe, saying "Hmph! Your weakness disgusts me!"

Can someone help me think of any more?

Michael the Fox: I&#39;m all for Rainbow Dash and Sonic! :) 18:44, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Wow...that is the craziest shit i've ever heard....I'm in! But i would make him more equal... like a babality (could have him trying to use chaos control but instead accendently slames himself into the ground.) 2 fatalitys like every one else. Limited energy. a little less bizarre fatalitys like how about him chaos spearing the oppentent to the ground. then as he is walking towards them with a machine gun they start screaming him to have mercy but then he riddles them with the gun. 99.154.104.97 21:52, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Shadow Once Being Blaze
I have one very important question to ask about this page.

Where was it ever said that Shadow was originally designed to be a girl? I have never heard that anywhere, and just was wondering what the source of that was. I certainly never heard anything mentioned while Sonic Adventure 2 was being worked on. Was it a random interview while they were developing Sonic Rush? It's also mentioned on Blaze the Cat's profile, but I figured this might be noticed more here since everyone loves talking about Shadow the Hedgehog.

I'm afraid I don't see anything related to that in Shadow's article. If it was added to the article without a source, then it was likely removed as the information could very well be speculation. EYCEST★R  ★   02:17, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

It is located right in the character creation section. I quote, "When being designed, his original name was Terios, which translates to "reflection of," more than likely to play off the hero/villain dynamic within the game. Shadow's concept was also a female character until the concept of a female character was later turned into Blaze the Cat. "

This information is also repeated on the Blaze the Cat article, so yeah. It's still there, and listed in two places. But I have never heard this anywhere else. The user who added it to the Shadow page was another admin, but she is currently inactive, so I can't ask her directly where she got the source.99.67.231.182 02:41, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Well it is true but it's hard to pin down stuff from ealier conecpt art but that is true info so it should stay Sonamyfan666 02:49, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Right, the only thing I can even remotely find is where the Blaze concept art was initially shown on Sonic Wrecks, located here - http://www.sonicwrecks.com/depository/christmasdayblaze/ The only thing the article does is offer rampent speculation that Blaze might be based on Shadow because of colors, and then saying maybe the character might be older then we think. But that is not any sort of insider info, since we don't even know what document contained that image, or who even drew it. It certainly doesn't look like something from the Sonic Adventure 2 era. He is making guesses in the aricle to make it sound more exciting, when really all you needed was the image. There is nothing to suggest that Blaze was conceived as Shadow.99.67.231.182 03:52, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Listen They got the info messed up on the site Shadow was orginaly the female cat like creature we saw then later on Sega went back and turned her into Blaze so the info is not false and needs to stay on the site Sonamyfan666 03:57, February 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * You have offered no proof for your claims whatsoever, though -- and as a matter of fact, Sonic Wrecks offered no explanation as to the image's origins, either, so it's questionable at best to be a source of anything, really. --Herman2000 22:07, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Trivia, is some of it necissary?
I'm talking about the third-to-last and second-to-last one. Does it really matter if Shadow is like Vegeta or so? It has nothing to officially do with Shadow, for, there is no proof that there is any sort of connection between the two characters. If the administrators are really allowing this, I think I should start adding a load of relations to other official Sonic pages. Like how Sonic looks like it's based off Disney. Or how Amy's obsessive nature is like Misa Amane from Deathnote. I don't want to sound mean, but it's true. Leaf the Hedgehog 05:37, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, Is it true that shadow is the ultimate life form? from: lizziestar74.196.119.10 01:11, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it is true. EYCEST★R  ★   01:15, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

A Some What Classical Look
This picture has a some what classical look to me.

Um, talk pages aren't for that purpose, at least article ones. I've had to explain this so many times now...

Article talk pages are for stating problems or additions to the article, not expressing opinions. Just saying. It’s Pink here Sonic is awesome... nuff said.   08:07, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

That picture of Shadow... isn't classic. I can tell whats classic or not (image wise!) Puff the Hedgehog   is the bravest girl you'll meet!  16:03, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

He's not dead!
Okay someone wrote in the Quotes section that he said something like "Goodbye Doctor!" while killing Doctor Eggman in Shadow the Hedgehog (Game). Eggman isn't dead. Please remove that and then block the page from people that aren't logged on and that ruin pages! 69.116.183.166 00:41, July 20, 2012 (UTC)AWESOMENESS IS AWESOME!!

It's from one of the alternate endings of the game, in which Shadow did in fact kill Doctor Eggman.--Kagi mizu -Seeya 'round 00:42, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

Copy-edit for Featured status
There. It has taken a while, but I finished the copy-edit for Shadow's article. The biggest problems I found were numerous formatting errors, grammar and spelling errors, and purple, unencyclopedic prose. There are a large number of things in this article that should be sourced, as well. I removed what speculation I could discern, but without proper sources (and due to unfamiliarity with the character's source material), then there's no doubt still quite a bit left. I suggest that someone who is more familiar with that character and sources scour this article and excise as much speculation as they can find.

Since previous sections have been edited since I've begun work on Shadow, I'll go through with another copy-edit at a later date. But for now, his article quality should be a step closer to what one would expect for a featured article.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 07:21, August 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks! -- Supermorff (talk) 10:47, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

Separate Boss Battle Pages
Today, a page explaining the boss battle of Shadow in SA2 was marked for deletion. What I want to know is why. I know that I can't mark this page itself in this category, and there were pages detailing character boss battles made before. Those weren't deleted. So why try to delete the one I created? Were-cow11 (talk) 01:14, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

If this is true, then that person should tell me where the information is mentioned. Were-cow11 (talk) 01:19, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Even if the info is covered elsewhere, maybe it shouldn't be. Maybe that page is exactly where the info is supposed to go? -- Supermorff (talk) 07:58, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

I linked the page I created to some articles regarding Shadow, so this article should be okay now. Were-cow11 (talk) 09:28, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Fountain of Youth?!
What the? FIFTY YEARS AGO? Does he drink from the fountain of youth or something?!

Dr Sphere (talk) 22:36, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

He was created fifty years ago, he is considered immortal.  Myself  123  22:55, March 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * More accurately, he is ageless. Kyro-Dizzy (talk) 13:34, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Probably, but all material states he is immortal.  Myself  123  15:16, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * In case you all forgot, he was in stasis for 50 years wasn't he? Two-tailed Fox (talk) 17:15, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, but when he is immortal and "never ages", that fact doesn't really matter.  Myself  123  17:28, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

"Ageless" means "eternal" or "not showing signs of age". In this case, Shadow would be ageless, using the latter definition. 17:37, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Again, manuals refer to him as immortal.  Myself  123  17:45, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, but he is both ageless and immortal, at least from what we have seen. An immortal person cannot die, but can still show signs of age. Shadow is also ageless, because he doesn't seem to show his age. 17:48, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

Just a few things...
Ok here's a few things i just wanna know. Since the event's of Sonic 06 technically didnt occur then is it possible that somewhere down the Line Shadow and Rouge devolop a Romantic Relationship eventually leading to Silver's birth? It's highly likely and beliveable that Silver is there Child. 1 He has a similar fur colour to Rouge. 2 He has Super powers like pychokinis. Shadow has Super Powers. 3 His Spikes are a bit Similer to Shadows and Rouges. 4 Even though he's from the Future Shadow can not Age and say some of Shadows DNA found it's way into Rouge's Bloodstream then she could stop Ageing possibly. 5 It is highly likely Shadow and Rouge will have a Romantic Relationship and i would not be surprized whatsoever by it. Hell id party! By the way i say we start a petion for them to Finally get together. Post your opinion please on this and the petion. 92.18.235.98 00:18, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

You disproved all of this at the begining of your statement. Shadow could not be Silver's father because in Sonic '06, Shadow was imprisioned after Iblis destroyed the world.  Myself  123  00:21, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

Well he could have been born while Shadow was still Free and we have no idea of when exactly he was captured. Plus technically since none of that happened then Shadow is not imprisoned in the Future and Silvers future is probely drastically diffrent from the whole Doomsday thing so it's possible Rouge and Shadow do have him and they may live as a Happy Family. Shadow and Rouge still working for G.U.N, Omega helping to look after a young Silver like an Uncle, Then when Silver grows older He also joins G.U.N. That kinda thing you know? 92.18.235.98 01:05, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

Just because it was retconned doesn't mean that wasn't the future and it was implied that Shadow was captured soon after Iblis was released. Pluse, Shadow has soon little to none romantic interest in Rouge and Rouge has shown little to Shadow, so it's highly unlikely them two would form a romantic relationship.  Myself  123  14:34, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

Actually Rouge has shown a good amount of Atraction to Shadow over the year's and Shadow also even spend's alot of Time around her even on Mission's. Also this is in a World where we have a Talking blue Hedgehog and many other talking unbelivable lifeform's and so on it do's not have to make total sense. Beside's if Sega decide's to put them together one Day well who here would be shocked? Completly obvious it would most likely happen one Day like Amy going Insane when Sonic find's a diffrent Love interest and ignore's her want's and Need's. 92.18.244.152 14:54, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

I would be very suprised if an emotionally distance person who's shown no romantic interest in anyone, would suddendly fall in love with a bat who's clearly more attrated to an echidna, and is it completely obvious that Sonic will find another love interest?  Myself  <font color="Black">123  14:57, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

I wouldent be surprised they'd make a nice couple and screw knuckles. He's in love with his emerald. 92.18.243.98 23:15, May 4, 2013 (UTC)