Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24074103-20131204160455/@comment-679780-20140729192701

Let's break this down here a litte. I don't really have time to do this right now, but I'll make time. "If you persist to use Meteor Crush as your reason, well in the Skill Information it never states those rocks come from space"

No one said that but you I stated it for clarification of what we know so far. That despite the name and unknown origin of those rocks coming from above, we believe that those rocks do not come from space since it is an "earth" based ability.

"nor that Knuckles have complete control of the "supernatural power of the earth". Just that he makes it happen which could be by any reason." Here I am stating that Knuckles doesn't have full control over the supernatual earth power. We don't know exactly where those rocks are from other than an earth based source but what we do know is that the command "Meteor Crush" triggers it.

"He perhaps have telepathy to the Master Emerald to ask it to drop a few rocks."

No. It told you he does it "through supernatural control of the earth". Now I don't care where you think the rocks came from, but THIS much is obvious. He didn't have to ask the Master Emerald to drop anything. I put an underline there to state I ma merely guessing a possibility on how he triggers rocks to fall from the sky. You don't care where those rocks come from and I am just pressuming where they are from. They are either ported in from a source, falling from Angel Island or as some would pressume from observing and the name, space. But we both believe that they're not from space so it could be any logical earth based source. And while Angel Island, being a floating landmass may not be considered part of the planet in general, still considered a landmass and consist of "earth" itself. So the Supernatual Power of the earth that Knuckles could possibly be which I am guessing could be a connection with the Master Emerald. Eitherway, it involves large rocks falling on his foes.

"It is also important to remember that Sonic Battle is considered a spin-off game so it is questionable of how much it holds to the main series."

Okay, first thing. If you're trying to make a point about something, you don't disregard the entire thing especially, where it's coming from, unless you've lost your point and have found that it is entirely faulty. I shouldn't have to make the point to begin with if you know all this in advance in yet pursist to believe it's a general geokinesis thing. You're basing the majority of the geokinesis theory from a game with already questionable canon to Sonic lore. Such as Green Hill Zone which is suppose to be on South Island but is located at Emerald Town which is right next to the City Central which is suppose to be at the mainlands. This kind of geology doesn't make sense to me for Sonic's world in comparison to what we know from the main games.

"It also states that Amy Heal works by Amy thinking purely about Sonic. By that logic she should be ÜberCharged 24/7."

Okay seriously? You're comparing a mechanic of Amy to the mechanic of Knuckle's Meteor Crush? You were the one who compared Meteor Rush to Knuckles Heal to begin with. I responded saying that every character in the game had a heal ability purely for gameplay reasons.

GRiND wrote: Mystic Monkey wrote:

Thesoniczone11 wrote: Why do you want to refuse the idea of Knuckles being a geokinetic so bad anyway? But all in all, I just don't think there is enough clear cut evidence to logically agree that Knuckles is an earthbender and that it's not worthy to add "geokinesis" to his article. To me the logical conclusion is that Knuckles can manipulate the earth through shockwaves. That is the logical conclusion I see from playing Sonic games since the 90s. Also I don't think you really know what geonkinesis and being geo kinetic means. Why do you keep bringing the term earthbender into this too? Not only is that kindof dry (and honestly it's getting cliche and annoying) but it's a ridiculously limiting definition and it is a terrible term to be using as even a near equivalent of geonkinesis. In fact, earthbending in and of itself is only a facet within a technique within a facet of geonkinesis. Geokinesis, in it's broken down latin sense means "earth movement". Along with various psionic skills it usually means the ability to control earth based materials with ones mind. The reaosn I dub it "earthbending" simply for conveiance sense as Avatar fans and those who know super powers often call it Avatars versin of geokinesis which earthbenders use on a regular occasion.

As I stated I do not believe Knuckles fufills all the criteria of a geokinesis. Sure he may have the ability to trigger geological events but not directly with his mind. Keep in mind this is Knuckles we're tlaking about and his mind isn't exactly reinforced for advance psionic abilities. He is all about power, by his immense physical strength. So the good conclusion would be that Knuckles use brute force to move earth and does so via shockwaves that trigger quakes.

Don't get me wrong though, when it comes to the elements I believe Sonic Team wanted Knuckles to have earth based abilities when needed and can be regarded as an earth elemental character, but I also believe Sonic team wouldn't complicate Knuckles with earth-mind control and much rather have him hitting rocks to have bigger rocks hit things.

Still, if you go ahead and add "Geokinesis" to Knuckles article, I won't bother to undo what you edit but I told you my reasons in my own way and won't be suprise if someone else undo it.