User talk:Ultrasonic9000

Done
Done! -- 19:37, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Edits to Chaos Control
The Chaos Emeralds must only be within some undefined proximity to draw power from - this has been proven in both Super transformations and Black Doom's 7 Emerald full power Chaos Control of the Black Comet (where he never makes contract with even a single Emerald). During the course of Shadow's game, Shadow always has at least one Emerald on him until they are stolen by Black Doom - therefore there was always an Emerald nearby when Doom used Chaos Control so you have no proof that Doom can use it without Emeralds. And in SA2 after Knuckles stopped the Chaos Emeralds (in his own words), Sonic & Shadow used the Emeralds to go Super while Knuckles did nothing but stand in awe - therefore you cannot prove that the Emeralds could not be used for Chaos Control at that time.

It is true that Chaos Control is an ability of the character as it is defined as "the ability to use the Chaos Emeralds to warp time and space" and not "the ability of the Chaos Emeralds to warp time and space". But you have no proof that Devil Doom and the Biolizard (also FinalHazard) can use this ability without Chaos Emeralds - and the proof for Shadow is iffy because of the definition which has not only never been expanded or changed but has been invoked by Shadow in Sonic06 and in Shadow's profile in the Rivals games and on Sonic Channel. I am not challenging the inclusion of the inconsistency for Shadow (in fact, I'm the one who originally wrote about the inconsistency) - but it is improper and unprofessional to speculate on this zero Emerald thing - it could very well be just Sonic Team not wanting to program 2 versions of Shadow: one with an Emerald for Chaos Control and one with no Emerald and no Chaos Control - neither of us can prove anything either way. Sonic saiyan (talk) 17:20, August 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the response. You do seem quite open minded - though I'd strongly disagree about me being closed minded. The thing is that in a fictional universe, I feel the creator's own words and explanations are the most reliable source for the canon. Therefore what is said in the profiles and cutscenes is the most reliable info we have. And in a professional encyclopedia, accuracy is more important than describing things that have not been explained thoroughly in canon, and would thus require speculation; I am against the speculation. I am fine pointing out the seeming inconsistency, but you want to go farther and explain something that is not explained at all and which contradicts those words and explanations.


 * Furthermore the claim of required possession of an Emerald to draw its power does not have any proof either - although no proof exists either way (outside of Sonic X), Occam's razor (choosing the theory with the least assumptions) would bend against this. Your theory says that the Emerald alters itself so that it only supplies power to the one who possesses or controls it, but a simpler theory is that it just keeps doing its usual thing. It was established as far back as the original Sonic game that the Emeralds give energy to all living things and that they altered the entirety of South Island with their power (while they themselves existed in torrisons in time and space). Further more radars have been created that can detect the power emanating from them - how would your theory account for being able to track an Emerald by its power when its power is all going to the one who possesses and controls it? In comparison, a magnet does not stop affecting another magnet within its vicinity only because 2 different people are holding them. So Doom using Shadow's Emeralds is not a stretch at all.


 * As for Biolizard's organ, it does not prove the Liz can use Chaos Control without Emeralds either. The text states that the organ merely "starts" the Chaos Control. This can be likened to how a spark plug starts a car engine - the spark plug can only turn over an engine if it ignites gasoline (which releases the energy stored within the gas) - without gasoline, the spark plug's spark does nothing; similarly the Liz's organ may only be the spark plug, the gasoline may be the gasoline, and the gas energy is the Chaos Emerald energy. There are other ways of comparing it, but the fact that it could be this way means every one of them (including mine) is speculation - which I am against adding). And you have no proof that Knuckles restored the Emeralds for Sonic and Shadow, only speculation - the scene you described was not depicted, talked about, or even hinted at; in fact Knuckles only said stop the Chaos Emeralds, this can be read narrowly as stop what they are doing currently (powering the ARK).


 * I kind of dislike fan speculated possibilities to explain things not explained in canon. And this one I feel is too controversial to include it because it contradicts the creators' explanations they put into both profiles and cutscenes. Pointing out the inconsistency for Shadow is more than enough - at least it is not as bad as Wikipedia where even that would be too much. Sonic saiyan (talk) 19:46, August 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi again. Sorry to dig this back up but I still do not agree with the phrases "Shadow the Hedgehog can already use Chaos Control naturally" and "This suggests that Chaos Control can be used, at least in Shadow's case, without an Chaos Emerald." I find just telling the reader the fact that CC has appeared to have been used without a known or visible Emerald and then let the reader draw their own conclusions is preferable - rather than suggest editor speculation to direct their conclusions. Sonic saiyan (talk) 18:59, September 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Doesn't the phrase that was originally there which I wrote years ago, "Although cutscenes, bios in manuals and websites in the Sonic the Hedgehog series often claim activating Chaos Control requires a Chaos Emerald, Shadow the Hedgehog has appeared to use it a few times both in gameplay and during cutscenes without a visible Chaos Emerald" already do that? I feel like this phrase is enough to both draw attention to the fact while not suggesting conclusions for the readers. Why is more necessary? Sonic saiyan (talk) 19:46, September 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry it takes so long to respond sometimes. However, saying directly that Shadow has such an ability as to use Chaos Control without Emeralds is a conclusion that has never been confirmed by Sonic Team - that is why it is an inconsistency: Sonic Team keeps defining Chaos Control as "the ability to use [the power of] the Chaos Emeralds to warp time and space." Like I said above, they've done this in most of recent games and profiles to include Shadow, including 06, Rivals, and Sonic Channel. Therefore we should not say directly that Shadow can use Chaos Control without Emeralds - just state that it appeared that he has done this and that it is contradicting what Sonic Team said and let the reader judge for themselves. The way it was before is the best way to write it. Sonic saiyan (talk) 18:00, September 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * EDIT: Sorry, i didn't notice the edit you made. I didn't want you to "yield", just to understand. You do seem like a good, open-minded editor; and I would like you to be a friend rather than enemy (like you said). Sonic saiyan (talk) 18:05, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

Sir Perciva's Soul Surge
Out of the three different things you posted, she most nearly said Flames Of Kilekion. And don't worry about it. Glad to help. ★Jake the Hedgehog  The Ultimate Apprentice★  16:43, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for making the Rose Typhoon page I've considered making one my self for a while now.Sonamyfan666 (talk) 22:34, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

Hyper Mode
I think it may considered a some sort of minor transformation, perhaps even the Super Shields could be considered that too. Both things grant the user some added perks and both are obtained through Chaos Energy.  Myself  123  22:43, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

Mobius Encyclopaedia
Good work on the Brotherhood of Guardians article. Are you aware that we're currently in discussion with Mobius Encyclopaedia about the possibility of a merger? I'm just asking because, in the event that it happens (and it might not, and even if it does it might not happen soon), we may have to go over all of the Archie pages again to merge them properly. I'm not saying that your work isn't appreciated, because it is and it needs doing, just that it might be better to hold off on big edits to the Archie pages until we know what's going to happen. Just a heads up. -- Supermorff (talk) 14:03, August 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay then. I appreciate your candour. -- Supermorff (talk) 14:27, August 23, 2012 (UTC)

Time Break and Speed Break
Try notifying an admin as soon as possible about the deletion. -- Shadowunleashed13 "I am...none of me..."   13:03, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll get back to that now, had to eat some lunch. 16:12, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

You did a great job on the World of Arabian Nights page. Congratulations! -- Shadowunleashed13 "I am...none of me..."   23:19, August 25, 2012 (UTC)

I don't know much about SaSR, but I'll try to help. -- Shadowunleashed13 "I am...none of me..."   23:32, August 25, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure really. Chaos Nightmare was a wanted article (i.e, it was in a red link) and it is also a Chaos Power. All the individual healing techniques are very generic and everything is covered in the Healing article

But that's just my opinion -- 'Murphyshane -  熱! Don't click here '  21:56, August 28, 2012 (UTC)

Infobox skills
Sounds fine to me. Go ahead. -- Supermorff (talk) 15:47, August 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh okay. I've added a new field called "moves". -- Supermorff (talk) 16:30, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Cartomancy?
What the Hades does that mean?Sonamyfan666 the Amy Rose Expert #1 (talk) 16:02, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Okay well sense that is such a werid term you might want to put in parnitheses what that means beside it. I'll be honest I know a lot of werid words and I didn't know that one.Sonamyfan666 the Amy Rose Expert #1 (talk) 16:08, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Removing citations during editing
Just a reminder, but when you are editing infoboxes and there are citations for certain items, please do not remove those citations. Those are there to cite a particular item to a specific source, to validate it. Removing those citations invalidates the item, which without a source for it, could be fanon. Please be mindful of citations when you're editing and try to avoid removing them. They are there for a reason. Thanks.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 08:02, September 2, 2012 (UTC)

Crocodile Bite
Hello Ultrasonic9000, thanks for getting in touch. To be honest, I don't remember this move ever officially being called "Crocodile Bite", in fact, it was never given a name at all. However, as Vector used it in Sonic Heroes (when alone), Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic Free Riders (with the S-Item), I thought it deserved to be mentioned. His powerful jaws are mentioned under the Skill section though, so I leave it up to you if you want to delete it. By the way, I never heard of the term Donut Dash, either.

Vector T.C. (talk) 18:10, September 2, 2012 (UTC)Vector T.C.

Hey there
Hey right know I'm filling out a form to be requested to be givien adminstartor powers I was wondering if you would leave a mesage saying wether or not you think I would be good at it sense were on stable terms here.Sonamyfan666 the Amy Rose Expert #1 (talk) 20:15, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

You told me so
Merger isn't going ahead, as I said in the site discussion. -- Supermorff (talk) 16:14, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I may have been a bit quick. I'll let you get it in a form you like first. -- Supermorff (talk) 17:36, September 15, 2012 (UTC)

Feel free to try it out on a couple of pages to see if it works. I'm surprised you haven't gone further, actually. You don't need "nickname", and has there ever been an official height and weight for a transformation? I'm not sure I like the vibrant yellow colour. Maybe desaturate it a bit? -- Supermorff (talk) 08:16, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Charmy Picture
I ripped the artwork from the Charmy Digital Trading Card from Stampii. Happy to see you like it!

Vector T.C. (talk) 16:27, September 28, 2012 (UTC)Vector T.C.

Rollback
Over the last few days, several users have encouraged me to run for rollback again. Since you are a very active and trustworthy user, I'd like to ask you: Is this the wisest thing to do? --19:36, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. I'll consider it. --19:46, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Just so you know, I took your advice to heart and this happened. --18:11, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Just saying...it helped. -- Shadowunleashed13  "I am...none of me..."   18:15, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Good Job!
Hey Ultra! I've noticed how much work you've been putting into the Black Knight pages and wanted to say you're doing great! I'm in a really good mood so i thought i'd do that. Keep up the good work buddy! ^_^

Thanks. We're both close to our next milestone in editting. Only 77 more for you and 21 more for me. :P

Filenames
Please be aware that, per our art policy, uploaded images must not have filenames that start with numbers. -- Supermorff (talk) 09:26, October 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's okay. You might want to check the policy page, because there are a couple of other restrictions on filenames. -- Supermorff (talk) 18:58, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

Yes I am sure,SEGA retro,and I am glad to be here.E-124 MKII (talk) 19:47, October 13, 2012 (UTC)MKII

Well I got it in 2005.Now it's been,murdured.

I forget what I said.But the Sonic Boost Pic is new.E-124 MKII (talk) 20:40, October 13, 2012 (UTC)MKII

Their gone now.I did find them in 2004,then in 2005,the were taken down.

Soul Surges
Thanks for moving them back, and don't worry about it. No harm done. Everyone makes mistakes sometimes. -- Supermorff (talk) 07:39, October 15, 2012 (UTC)