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Mystic Monkey wrote:

Yamir24 wrote:

Mystic Monkey wrote: Heres a story idea I have in mind already that Archie can easily adapt to and introduce the new scourge of Sonic's life.

Dr. Eggman collect all the data he needed on Project: Shadow in order to replicate the project as PROJECT: ASHURA.

However instead of using pure hedgehog DNA and Black Dooms blood, he collected genetic samples of Sonic himself such as his shoe, quill and a good sample of his blood. While the clone was aged and advance to match Sonic's physique, Dr. Eggman knew he could not clone memories and thus while Ashura was in the glass tube full of medical water he installed Metal Sonic programming directly into Ashura's mind in order to control him. Because Dr. Eggman was creating his own Ultimate Life Form with Sonic's DNA and not just a clone of Sonic, this explains why Ashura is green with additional black quills around his face. However while Ashura didn't have post-SWG Sonic's memories, as a phenomenon he did have all of pre-SWG memories and was aware of Dr. Eggman trying to brainwash him and thus feigned loyalty to him until Dr. Eggman revealed Ashura to Sonic in Emerald Hill Zone.

Sonic can have vague faded memories of Scourge to reconise Ashura even though Dr. Eggman claims it would be impossible to know Ashura since he worked on him in secret. Ashura says that while he was a clone of Sonic and has his pre-SWG memories, he too remembers Scourge and fully believes to be the reincarnate of him. Ashura turns on Dr. Eggman, Sonic fights him, Ashura beats Sonic and escape and unlike Ken Penders I really don't mind if anyone from Archie who just so happen to find this very thread to go ahead and note my ideas without crediting me. Ashura replacing Scourge would be credit for me enough.

Candy55101 wrote: The " evil brother/possibly twin" thing wouldn't be able to happen since SEGA characters aren't allowed to have family anymore. Even Sonic's Uncle Chuck from SatAM has been changed to not be related to him in any way. Same with Dr.Eggman's nephew ,Snively, who also now has no relation to Eggman. But if they add in a cut character to replace him like they have been doing for others (Mina=Honey, Julie-su= Relic, Mammoth mogul=Breezie) how about Nazo? I would love to see the back story Ian gaves him. I loved what he did with Honey and Breezie! So Sega themselves have made Sonic a complete orphan in the Archie series? Even Jules and Bernadette are gone? Amadeus, Rosemary and Merlin too?

I have to say, thats completely dick move of Sega to do that for Archie. I do like the new characters but didn't notice them as reincarnates to the characters you mentioned. I would of thought they would be slightly more obvious, like how I compare Scourge to Ashura.

Still could of easily been sorted if they start again with the series.

Candy55101 wrote:

Mystic Monkey wrote:

JokerJay779 wrote: So its been confirmed by Ian Flynn that Scourge is gone for good? Freaking Ken Penders. Hopefully one day we may get a new version of him perhaps. I don't think it is 100% confirmed Scourge is cut but neither 50% return. If Scourge really can't come back I hope Ashura would replace him due to similarities and how some fanstory portrays him as Sonic's evil double for one reason or another. Scourge is 100% gone. Ian Flynn has said on his fourms (please don't make me look it was so long ago lol) plus Ken Penders has said nurmuours times on Twitter and his fourms that he owns Scourge since he created evil-sonic (whether or not you agree, he got the rights.)

EDIT: I found this link Ian says he can't comment (this is long after the settlement). If Archie still owned him why would Ian not be able to comment? When it comes to character ownership, Ken Penders may claim rights over Scourge sinceScourge is obviously his creation. He also started on Anti-Sonic so yeah he can keep him.

But i say Archie can get away with making a replacement knock-off of Scourge since as said the "evil double" plot is nothing original in action-adventure story telling. Archie can reconise them as reincarnates than post-SWG characters. they just have to tip-toe around all the no-no names.

For example if Ashura is introduced in the series a sSonic's new enemy, Sonic can claim to know him well but Ashura can either interrupt him before he can call him by his pre-SWG name or simply that Sonic has forgotten due to post-SWG memories replacing Pre-SWG memories.

JokerJay779 wrote: You know Mystic its funny I did thought of an organic version of Metal Sonic before. It was an artificial hedgehog created by Eggman with Metal Sonic's mind and it was named Shredder the Hedgehog. Does he have to deal with four of these guys?

Yamir24 wrote: Everyone hates Penders. He's even worse than Chris Chan. If the Archie comics claim to be finishing the series and then afterwards starting a brand new Sonic comic series with post-SWF New Mobius and Ken Penders allow them to use his characters for one last time, then perhaps his reputation as Archie Sonic beloved writter fall to completely legal arsehole, then Ken Penders would perhaps be able to leave with much more dignity.

But I wouldn't say he is as bad as Chris-Chan, given he is a better writter and artist. I don't know about the better writer and artist to be honest... Well yeah, while as I said I can't read the comics from where I live, I have been somewhat interested in them, all up to Super Genesis Wave in which I found was utter rubbish and really can't be bothered anymore.

But if Scourge's replacement is somewhat good, even if it's not Ashura, I'll be interested, since Scourge was my favourate ArchieSonic villain and be interested if Archie made use of fan recognised Glitch characters other than lesser or cut characters.

Another good example is that if ArchieSonic needs to replace Doctor Finitevus then perhaps "The Wechnia" would be ideal. Though personally I never really liked the Dark Legion. Perhaps Nocturnus Clan lead by Ix would replace the Dark Legion entirely.

Still I'm all for Ashura replacing Scourge. That sounds pretty cool.