Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-1031724-20161020032419/@comment-477304-20161021132923

KillRoy231 wrote: I thought Sonic was more aimed at teens, at least the later games once Shadow came in and they started to get darker and say things like "damn" and "suck", plus they made a big deal about Maria's death and she wasn't even a villain

To the Black Doom thing, I pretty much assumed it from Gerald saying something about "turning his own power against him" and that Shadow is the only one that can stop him.

To the Dark Gaia thing, perfectly understandable, though I said how his death could work while maintaining balance.

To the reason for debating: I'm just used to debating the status of villains with people who are sure every single villain in every single show survived (except Joffrey and Ramsay), for longer than I can remember (and I'm not quite as young as I used to be when I started, so I'm getting tired), so I thought everyone here was going to think that all of them survived, not just Metal Sonic, the Deadly Six, or the ambiguous Eggman Nega. The series as a whole has always been aimed at kids, Shadow the Hedgehog and possibly Sonic '06 are the only games aimed for an older audience. While Maria's death was important to the plot of SA2, she's never seen outright getting killed, the closest we get is ShtH, in which we see a GUN soldier pull a gun on her, but it fades to white as the gun fires.